Marvel: Fantastic Four Speed Downgrade

[Tomfer]

Alrighty then, is there anyone besides Moonkight who scales to that specific feat?

I don't think so, until someone make profiles for MK villains that is.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I don't think so, until someone make profiles for MK villains that is.

Even Spider-man and his amazing friends?

 

[Antvasima]

I have a plan:
Step 1. I'm a dummy and forgot to correct Dr. Doom's speed rating.

Would you mind unlocking Doom's profile?

I have handled it. Tell us here when you are done please.

Step 2. I'll add the Elektra statistics code thing to the profiles. I'll start with the non-locked profiles, then ask someone to unlock the necessary locked ones and do the same.

Step 3. Moon Knight's High Hypersonic feat was calculated and accepted a while ago, if there was a thread rejecting it, I haven't found it. So we need to determine whether to A) deem it an outlier or B) use it as scaling in place of Elektra's feat.

Okay. That seems good.

Step 4. Once it's clear which verse-page calculations aren't being used, I'll remove the unused speed calculations.

That seems questionable, if they have been accepted.

@The_Impress

Are you willing to help out here please?

Step 5. By in large, the purpose of this thread has been fulfilled. I purpose it should be closed after steps 1-4 are completed, any profiles that were missed in the revision can simply be revised when they're found and link back to this thread.

Let's wait until we have cleared up that you haven't made any inaccurate statistic changes and have created easily understood scaling chain links in our wiki profile pages first.

Step 6. I start a new thread regarding the speed scaling, regarding already accepted and new calculations that need to be squared away but aren't related to the current matter at hand.

Okay.

 

[Antvasima]

MK fan here. The calc was accepted, approved and it can be used but not for everyone. He's those characters who have actual variable mechanics, too many in fact, and this was done during a run where he had an upgrade by Khonshu.

But we also have a few Captain America feats that are also High Hypersonic, and he's far more reliable than MK for crossscaling.

Yes. Agreed.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I have handled it. Tell us here when you are done please.

Done.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you, but you need to always make certain that your references are properly formatted.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Doctor_Doom?diff=9328324&oldid=9328321

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[Apex_Predator_GX]

MK fan here. The calc was accepted, approved and it can be used but not for everyone. He's those characters who have actual variable mechanics, too many in fact, and this was done during a run where he had an upgrade by Khonshu.

But we also have a few Captain America feats that are also High Hypersonic, and he's far more reliable than MK for crossscaling.

Agree.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Thank you, but you need to always make certain that your references are properly formatted.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Doctor_Doom?diff=9328324&oldid=9328321

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a...

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Oh sorry.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem, but did you make such mistakes in any of the other pages that you edited? You need to check for red reference text error messages at the bottom of each page.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I'm gonna be busy today, so I'll get to it tonight by the earliest, maybe tomorrow.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

No problem, but did you make such mistakes in any of the other pages that you edited? You need to check for red reference text error messages at the bottom of each page.

No, I didn't add any statistics values yet.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Tomfer]

Even Spider-man and his amazing friends?

There's no reason why they would scale to this MK. Like I said, just use the Cap feats, they're easier to deal with it.

 

[Tahoy49574]

I have a plan:
Step 1. I'm a dummy and forgot to correct Dr. Doom's speed rating.

Would you mind unlocking Doom's profile?
Doctor Doom

Step 2. I'll add the Elektra statistics code thing to the profiles. I'll start with the non-locked profiles, then ask someone to unlock the necessary locked ones and do the same.

Step 3. Moon Knight's High Hypersonic feat was calculated and accepted a while ago, if there was a thread rejecting it, I haven't found it. So we need to determine whether to A) deem it an outlier or B) use it as scaling in place of Elektra's feat.

Step 4. Once it's clear which verse-page calculations aren't being used, I'll remove the unused speed calculations.

Step 5. By in large, the purpose of this thread has been fulfilled. I purpose it should be closed after steps 1-4 are completed, any profiles that were missed in the revision can simply be revised when they're found and link back to this thread.

Step 6. I start a new thread regarding the speed scaling, regarding already accepted and new calculations that need to be squared away but aren't related to the current matter at hand.

Living up to the profile picture

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Okay. Thank you for helping out.

I edited the Iron Man Armor Models 6, 7, and 8 profiles, changing their "Massively Hypersonic+" ratings to just "Hypersonic" because their only justifications were scaling to the Model 4, which is just rated as "Hypersonic". It's probably a remnant from when everyone was MHS+, I linked to this thread in the editing notes, is that acceptable?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know for certain. Probably, but I would prefer input from other knowledgeable members as well.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I think I'm about halfway through the non-locked profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you.

Please write the exact titles for ALL the pages that you need unlocked in a plain completely unformatted text list here, so our mass-unlocking program can handle it easily.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Finished the last of the non-locked profiles, except I avoided profiles that still have an outdated MHS+ rating (unrelated to the FF speed downgrade) until I get confirmation that it's acceptable to update their speed ratings linking back to this thread.

I will create a list of the profiles I need unlocked tomorrow (at the earliest).

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Thank you.

Please write the exact titles for ALL the pages that you need unlocked in a plain completely unformatted text list here, so our mass-unlocking program can handle it easily.

Nick Fury (Marvel Comics)
Genis-Vell
Mister Fantastic
Iron Man (Marvel Comics)
Jean Grey (Marvel Comics)
Cyclops (Marvel Comics)
Carnage (Marvel Comics)
Venom (Edward Brock)
Spider-Man (Marvel Comics)
Hulk (Marvel Comics)
Apocalypse (Marvel Comics)
Anti-Man (Marvel Comics)
Hank Pym (Marvel Comics)
Captain America (Marvel Comics)

 

[Antvasima]

I have unlocked those pages. Tell us here when you are done please.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I have unlocked those pages. Tell us here when you are done please.

Okay, done.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. I will lock them again.

 

[Antvasima]

I have done so.

What do we currently need to do here?

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I have done so.

What do we currently need to do here?

Maybe we can update the old Massively Hypersonic ratings into Hypersonic ratings from the profiles that were forgotten in the previous revision?

 

[Antvasima]

Please elaborate.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Please elaborate.

Many of the Iron Man Armors, Klaw, and other characters have Massively Hypersonic+ speed ratings, but they're justifications link to characters with only Hypersonic speed ratings. This is probably because Marvel street-tiers used to be rated as Massively Hypersonic+ before they were downgraded to their current Hypersonic ratings.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems to make sense to me then, but I would prefer input from other knowledgeable members first.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Bump.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I don't understand does it need approval to fix this? The downgrade was already approved years ago the part of the person who applied forgetting some shouldn't even need approval.

 

[Da3ggman]

I don't understand does it need approval to fix this? The downgrade was already approved years ago the part of the person who applied forgetting some shouldn't even need approval.

People still have PTSD from when I downgraded everyone to Hypersonic….

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I'm just doing what was suggested to me.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

People still have PTSD from when I downgraded everyone to Hypersonic….

"Happened again" blame it on Rex_Eckles this time (JK). I actually mentioned before multiple characters that were left behind in a previous thread (2023) which I was answered that it would be handled here well that thread is almost 1 year necro by 10th page still discussing what they should be scaling.

 

[Eseseso]

People still have PTSD from when I downgraded everyone to Hypersonic….

I miss Relativistic+ Doctor Doom...

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

(Silence)

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

(More Silence)

 

[Eseseso]

Doctor Doom reacting to Quicksilver in Avengers Vol. 1 #25, with pre-boost Quicksilver being FTL.

While that obviously wouldn't scale to the movement speed of Doom-tier people, maybe it'd scale to combat/reaction speed?

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Doctor Doom reacting to Quicksilver in Avengers Vol. 1 #25, with pre-boost Quicksilver being FTL.

While that obviously wouldn't scale to the movement speed of Doom-tier people, maybe it'd scale to combat/reaction speed?

Maybe, but let's wait for the next CRT.

 

[Eseseso]

Maybe, but let's wait for the next CRT.

Next CRT?