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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Damage never finished updating the profiles after removing the Onigashima calc.
Yeah, there's some I missed out on when doing that.
It is very important to prioritise getting that task properly finished then. Revisions are not allowed to be left half-finished if they begin to be applied. 🙏
 
It is very important to prioritise getting that task properly finished then. Revisions are not allowed to be left half-finished if they begin to be applied. 🙏
I'm pretty sure all of the God Tiers at least should be Class P now, so I'll implement that change now to the remaining profiles though we will have to do a proper clean-up thread at a later date when it's time to properly revise the profiles.
 
Why would the God Tiers only be Class P when Dressrosa Zoro is Class P from overpowering Fujitora's gravity? Fuji's gravity is rated at 1.67571545e17 kg and the ceiling for Class P is 10^18 kg. 10^18/1.6757154500037 × 10^17 = ~5.96. Is it really fair to say people like Kaido and Big Mom are equal to or a few times stronger than Dressrosa Zoro?
 
I'm pretty sure all of the God Tiers at least should be Class P now, so I'll implement that change now to the remaining profiles though we will have to do a proper clean-up thread at a later date when it's time to properly revise the profiles.
Thank you for helping out. 🙏
Why would the God Tiers only be Class P when Dressrosa Zoro is Class P from overpowering Fujitora's gravity? Fuji's gravity is rated at 1.67571545e17 kg and the ceiling for Class P is 10^18 kg. 10^18/1.6757154500037 × 10^17 = ~5.96. Is it really fair to say people like Kaido and Big Mom are equal to or a few times stronger than Dressrosa Zoro?
If there are no higher calculations for them, maybe they can get "At least Class P, likely higher"? 🙏
 
Why would the God Tiers only be Class P when Dressrosa Zoro is Class P from overpowering Fujitora's gravity? Fuji's gravity is rated at 1.67571545e17 kg and the ceiling for Class P is 10^18 kg. 10^18/1.6757154500037 × 10^17 = ~5.96. Is it really fair to say people like Kaido and Big Mom are equal to or a few times stronger than Dressrosa Zoro?
That's too big of a gap for upscaling currently.
 
That's too big of a gap for upscaling currently.
Maybe for characters around Dressrosa Zoro's tier. They're literally called God Tiers, why shouldn't there be a big gap in their abilities? I don't see how Dressrosa Zoro and Base Kaido are going extreme diff in an arm wrestling contest.
 
Maybe for characters around Dressrosa Zoro's tier. They're literally called God Tiers, why shouldn't there be a big gap in their abilities? I don't see how Dressrosa Zoro and Base Kaido are going extreme diff in an arm wrestling contest.
Yeah, but we can't just make up stats for the characters because we think they're significantly stronger.
 
I saw a (partial) quote by Jiddu Krishnamurti that may help explain the difference between Luffy and Blackbeard, and why Blackbeard is afraid whereas Luffy isn't.

"One who is in love with life and who sees life in the eyes of people becomes free from the fear of death."

🙏❤️
 
I did a recalc of KT's Onigashima size here. Hopefully it can get accepted and we can get to replacing the old calcs.
Have you checked if this thread would interfere? Because right now, Onigashima is accepted as (edit: up to) 6KM in diameter unless something has changed (and I don't think Namikami being banned affects the result)
 
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Have you checked if this thread would interfere? Because right now, Onigashima is accepted as 6KM in diameter unless something has changed (and I don't think Namikami being banned affects the result)
The last thing I remember was just that the 57 km was removed and not replaced by any other calc.
 
The last thing I remember was just that the 57 km was removed and not replaced by any other calc.
I'll be honest, it's vague enough that I can't say for sure, but I was under the impression that while there wasn't a replacement calc, anything over 6km would likely not work because the idea of the thread was that anything over 6km is too large.
Obviously, there would probably be leeway (I doubt 6.5 or 7 km would be too large), but 31km might be an issue.

I suppose I could be wrong though.
 
I'll be honest, it's vague enough that I can't say for sure, but I was under the impression that while there wasn't a replacement calc, anything over 6km would likely not work because the idea of the thread was that anything over 6km is too large.
Obviously, there would probably be leeway (I doubt 6.5 or 7 km would be too large), but 31km might be an issue.

I suppose I could be wrong though.
Wow, that sucks. It's been like 8 months since they've been removed with no replacement. As far as I've seen there's been no recalcs with the new suggested sizes.
 
Wow, that sucks. It's been like 8 months since they've been removed with no replacement. As far as I've seen there's been no recalcs with the new suggested sizes.
Yeah, it is what it is.
For reference, this thread removed a lot of those feats.

I'm gonna be honest, I have a blank spot in my memories regarding One Piece revisions from August to December 2025 (other then the locking/outdated staff thread and earthquake stuff) so I don't know if there was something else that happened, but it's possible that this is currently accepted? Maybe not though.

Tbh I just don't know, sorry. All I'm saying is that trying to put out an Onigashima calc over 5x larger then the 'accepted' maximum of 6 km might not work at all.
 
Wow, that sucks. It's been like 8 months since they've been removed with no replacement. As far as I've seen there's been no recalcs with the new suggested sizes.
Yee, you would first kinda need to counter the arguments of that thread (which are bs arguments to begin with not going lie)

I was going to do it myself but I just didn’t have the time to create another thread and deal with bs, and then there were also other people implying to do the same… but then after another bs also came up and that was removing the earthquakes while not doing anything to resolve the issue yet again

Just creating more problems for the verse… with somehow staff blindly agreeing to them (tho I don’t fully blame them as they aren’t too well versed on one piece).
 
Yeah, it is what it is.
For reference, this thread removed a lot of those feats.

I'm gonna be honest, I have a blank spot in my memories regarding One Piece revisions from August to December 2025 (other then the locking/outdated staff thread and earthquake stuff) so I don't know if there was something else that happened, but it's possible that this is currently accepted? Maybe not though.

Tbh I just don't know, sorry. All I'm saying is that trying to put out an Onigashima calc over 5x larger then the 'accepted' maximum of 6 km might not work at all.
Even in the link, the specific size isn't even accepted. Just "they look fine" without giving an exact accepted size to recalc the old Onigashima calcs.
 
Yee, you would first kinda need to counter the arguments of that thread (which are bs arguments to begin with not going lie)

I was going to do it myself but I just didn’t have the time to create another thread and deal with bs, and then there were also other people implying to do the same… but then after another bs also came up and that was removing the earthquakes while not doing anything to resolve the issue yet again

Just creating more problems for the verse… with somehow staff blindly agreeing to them (tho I don’t fully blame them as they aren’t too well versed on one piece).
At least the earthquake calcs are making progress thanks to my CRT. The Mag 7 end of the worldwide earthquake should be able to go through. I hope...
 
I did a recalc of KT's Onigashima size here. Hopefully it can get accepted and we can get to replacing the old calcs.
The numbers are stated to be oars sized… Hatcha being 36 meters doesn’t mean all of the rest will be the same size, the one who went through that gate seemingly seems to be way bigger than the rest and closer in size to oars

For example this guy is way shorter than the rest and is still 37 meters

Also using Jack who is closer to the screen on that panel and is 8 meters, the door would be around 43 meters in height, making the 68 meters more consistent
 
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The numbers are stated to be oars sized… Hatcha being 36 meters doesn’t mean all of the rest will be the same size, the one who went through that gate seemingly seems to be way bigger than the rest and closer in size to oars

For example this guy is way shorter than the rest and is still 37 meters
The problem is that if the size got retconned, then the statement would no longer be valid and even if Hatcha was the smallest, using a lowball value would be subject to less scrutiny than a highball value.
 
The problem is that if the size got retconned, then the statement would no longer be valid and even if Hatcha was the smallest, using a lowball value would be subject to less scrutiny than a highball value.
Also using Jack who is closer to the screen on that panel and is 8 meters, the door would be around 43 meters in height, making the 68 meters more consistent
The lowball value (based on an assumption) is simply incorrect objectively…
 
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Actually you can use Jack more accurately.. use Jack and scale him to the right door’s black lines that are more closer to him and then use that for the inner door on the left…

I believe that would reach 50 meters or more
 
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Actually you can use Jack more accurately.. use Jack and scale him to the right door’s black lines that are more closer to him and then use that for the inner door on the left…

I believe that would reach 50 meters or more
Even if all that is consistent it's going to be subject to the same counter arguments that removed the original calc in the first place. Any meta for a bigger Onigashima is just going to be immediately rejected unfortunately.
 
Even if all that is consistent it's going to be subject to the same counter arguments that removed the original calc in the first place. Any meta for a bigger Onigashima is just going to be immediately rejected unfortunately.
Well the issue is the max 6 km ASSUMPTION.... 1 assumption does not counter or override many stated sizes accurately scaling onigashima way above that dumb value.
 
Actually you can use Jack more accurately.. use Jack and scale him to the right door’s black lines that are more closer to him and then use that for the inner door on the left…
latest

Jack height = 55 px (8.30 m)

Right door black line = 31 px (4.6781818181818 m)

Left door black line = 18 px (4.6781818181818 m)

Door height = 283.5 px (73.681363636363 m)

There you go, no need for the numbers height assumptions
 
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Just creating more problems for the verse… with somehow staff blindly agreeing to them (tho I don’t fully blame them as they aren’t too well versed on one piece).
I don't see it as creating problems for the verse, I see it as removing problems.
 
It's both tbh

It's like saying you amputate someone's arm cause their arm had cancer cells but now you left them with no arm
 
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