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Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Splash Star

I did go over why the Hikaru thing's wrong.

Basically, Hikaru's the only one who says she ceased to exist, and I'll take the penguins over the overly-imaginative teenager.
Well, actually Hikaru is right in the context of the situation. because if they destroy each other, there will be neither existence nor non-existence, and chaos will return. and if the king destroys the queen, due to the self-destructive nature of his forces (which are stabilized by the queen's forces), he will destroy everything, including himself, which will again lead to the return of chaos.
 
Well, actually Hikaru is right in the context of the situation. because if they destroy each other, there will be neither existence nor non-existence, and chaos will return. and if the king destroys the queen, due to the self-destructive nature of his forces (which are stabilized by the queen's forces), he will destroy everything, including himself, which will again lead to the return of chaos.
...You mean the kid from Max Heart, don't you?
 
According to?
interview with the authors of the film. It is explained that Supreme destroyed all the precure worlds and recreated some of their parts as she sees fit for experimental purposes. The situation with all stars F is similar to the situation of the secret wars, when Beyonder collected pieces of different worlds for his own playground.
Even before Puka, Sorashiro blocked one of her attacks.
they blocked the usual punch. The power of supreme is exactly the ceremonial circle of stars, which only Puca could resist.
 
Then why are all of the cameos from Earth?

Yes, that beats everyone else, but it's hax, and Supreme doesn't use it much.
Close enough. Reinhard Heidrich, welcome home.
 
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Then why are all of the cameos from Earth?
She said herself that she didn't create useless things. Does her experiment need a precure palace? No, it's not needed, like maerchenland, so it doesn't create them.
Yes, that beats everyone else, but it's hax, and Supreme doesn't use it much.
Close enough. Reinhard Heidrich, welcome home.
She rarely uses it because she's not interested in winning with cheats, but it's a freely available power and literally her main strength.

and it's not Hax, because the characters have Hax resistances in proportion to their strength. they were erased, looped, frozen, plunged into the abyss of despair, their entire history was destroyed, but they were reborn. and here they meet with a climax.
 
She said herself that she didn't create useless things. Does her experiment need a precure palace? No, it's not needed, like maerchenland, so it doesn't create them.
She doesn't need the funny mountain or a hot springs, either.
She rarely uses it because she's not interested in winning with cheats, but it's a freely available power and literally her main strength.
It's out-of-character, and scales to basically no-one.
and it's not Hax, because the characters have Hax resistances in proportion to their strength.
I'm not sure they do. Only Baldez gave that impression.
 
She doesn't need the funny mountain or a hot springs, either.
these are the usual things to give naturalness to the world of secret wars, as typical things for precure
It's out-of-character, and scales to basically no-one.
That's exactly what she's like. She's looking for strong opponents, and there's no point erasing them right away.
I'm not sure they do. Only Baldez gave that impression.
Baldez is just one of many examples.
 
these are the usual things to give naturalness to the world of secret wars, as typical things for precure
I like how we agree that parallel universes are unnecessary unnecessary. Or a t least sort of.
That's exactly what she's like. She's looking for strong opponents, and there's no point erasing them right away.
I guess.
Baldez is just one of many examples.
Give me two more.
 
Give me two more.
No problem. Being trapped in an endless maze is a Hax that precure broke through by brute force. The immersion of the entire precure story into the abyss of despair is also a hax that they overcame. the merging of worlds and the total rewriting of the entire history from the very beginning to the present moment is also hax, and they were the only ones who remembered all the past events. For villains, there are standard resists to cleansing attacks, like super akanbe, who holds a universe-destroying attack without damage, simply because it's not the right type of attack, or like Don-Yokubaru, who does the same thing.
 
Don't remember the maze (and that one might be brute-forceable), but thanks.

I will mention the blue-nosed Akanbe being impervious to all but one attack, but being weaker than red-noses, though.
And SoraShiro surviving Supreme the longest, despite not being the strongest (while I'm not sure exactly where they rank, Sky's definitely stronger than Prism).
 
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The chaos things are in a Max Heart novel. Hikaru's saying that 14 years later, about something completely unrelated.

chaos existed since max heart and its still relevant even in mirai days
Humorously, it's not clear if Togepower can stop time by itself.
it pretty much can it removes "the future" thus time stops since there is nothing that can contiue
Yes,you need a complete theory of everything to explain universe,where at baseline it has black hole cosmology,where universe exists inside a higher-dimensional blackhole,what exist in other etc.

ngl there is not much evidence that "higher dimensional" black holes exist above the main universe besides the universe inside that one black hole in the manga
Don't remember the maze (and that one might be brute-forceable), but thanks.

I will mention the blue-nosed Akanbe being impervious to all but one attack, but being weaker than red-noses, though.
And SoraShiro surviving Supreme the longest, despite not being the strongest (while I'm not sure exactly where they rank, Sky's definitely stronger than Prism).
i think he is reffering to this
 
chaos existed since max heart and its still relevant even in mirai days
It might be, but we've had two willpowers (Kirakira, Tropical-Rouge, maybe Smile), so there could be two chaoses.
I think he's talking about taking the Mirai Crystals.

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ngl there is not much evidence that "higher dimensional" black holes exist above the main universe besides the universe inside that one black hole in the manga
Also, "creating a universe" in there really meant "becoming a non-black hole (if it's the Star Twinkle one).
Same again.
 
It might be, but we've had two willpowers (Kirakira, Tropical-Rouge, maybe Smile), so there could be two chaoses.
im pretty sure its the same source considering deusmast was formed from the left over chaos after the creation of the universe

I think he's talking about taking the Mirai Crystals.
then no

mirai crystals use the "future" which is the oppisite of time stop

Sorry, Imgur's blocked here. Any help with changing this would be appreciated.

im not really knowlegable on that site i don't really know how to properly add images i see

i can do with url's but my scans are saved on my pc so im not sure how i can show them here without imgur

Do you

Do you beileve that the Cures scale to universal like their scaling says?
no

some of them should be higher

Also, "creating a universe" in there really meant "becoming a non-black hole (if it's the Star Twinkle one).
i doubt precure uses such hyperbolic speech even then she was able to turn herself back from a black hole by inflation which is pretty impressive
 
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I can ask 3 things, I'm interested in this franchise so my lack of knowledge is normal.
  • Are the crossovers in this franchise canon? Like, can Cure Black become one with the girls from Smile Pretty Cure? Because of some weird crossover movie!​
  • How does the franchise canon work?​
  • Do the Precure share a physiology? I mean, abilities that all the Precure possess.​
 
  • Are the crossovers in this franchise canon?​
Yes.
Like, can Cure Black become one with the girls from Smile Pretty Cure? Because of some weird crossover movie!​
No, because they belong to different primordial universes.
How does the franchise canon work?
The primary canon is anime. then manga, Novels, magazines (animage, animedia and others), then interviews of authors
Do the Precure share a physiology? I mean, abilities that all the Precure possess.
yes, they operate with the same fundamental energies, their range of capabilities is universal, and differs in form, not in essence (Whip's cream attacks will have the same effect as Sparkle's electric attacks, with the difference only in visual effect)
 
No, because they belong to different primordial universes.
I wanted to ask if Cure Black scale from the Smiles Pretty Cure, but I think I was a little sleepy and didn't phrase my question well.

I also forgot to mention, if crossovers are canon, should there be any keys in the profiles about that?
 
Do the Precure share a physiology? I mean, abilities that all the Precure possess.
they should have one shared physiology via the power of emotions

I wanted to ask if Cure Black scale from the Smiles Pretty Cure, but I think I was a little sleepy and didn't phrase my question well.
mhm tbh yeah most of the cures shown in crossover movies are relative to each other
 
I wanted to ask if Cure Black scale from the Smiles Pretty Cure, but I think I was a little sleepy and didn't phrase my question well.
Well, yes, they all grow proportionally, and by the 30th episode they can already demolish the universe with one attack.
I also forgot to mention, if crossovers are canon, should there be any keys in the profiles about that?
and they are not really needed.
 
That seems fine, though it may be skipping the step of Criasu stopping time themselves.
No universal resistance, it seems.
mhm yeah but it was able to stop time on the splash star cures which kinda implies that the time stop is layered

That seems like a faux-infinite pocket reality (beyond that wall is an illusion).
agree

btw a question why does regina doesn't have soul manip but cure heart does considering that psyche's are souls which the villians rip out to create Jikochuu
 
mhm yeah but it was able to stop time on the splash star cures which kinda implies that the time stop is layered
It does (there's also another), but the universal resistance is still a loss. Then again, episode 48.
btw a question why does regina doesn't have soul manip but cure heart does considering that psyche's are souls which the villians rip out to create Jikochuu
She does, it's just buried in text. I'll extricate it when I/we revise DokiDoki.
 
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