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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

Howdy folks, I've noticed the F4 speed revision has gone through and it took with it a whole lot of other characters, such as the Hulks. I'm not here to contest it, but to ask if there's any new policy that has come with it.
 
Howdy folks, I've noticed the F4 speed revision has gone through and it took with it a whole lot of other characters, such as the Hulks. I'm not here to contest it, but to ask if there's any new policy that has come with it.
During that same thread it was mentioned the creation of another thread after this one to amp some of the characters to MHS or relativistic through multiple calcs, I assume the Hulls probably gonna end up scaling.
 
Didn't it only make him stupid rather than weak, and didn't Yolgjörd negate most of the intelligence-lessening effects at that time? It also doesn't explain how Thor was overwhelmed in outer space by a bunch of effing Rigellians. 🙏
Well it did say it can take his power away not just his intelligence
 
It is extremely unreliable. According to it, Thor would overwhelmingly be vaporised by nuclear explosions, can only lift 100 tons, and moves at barely above 100 miles an hour, for example. 🙏
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Hmm. Did Thor himself confirm officially getting weaker at some point? All that I recall is that he turned stupid.

Then again, Tom Brevoort did his best to encourage making Thor unskilled weak and easily damaged via his old hastily decided handbook statistics, despite that Thor is one of the the world's greatest surgeons, is an experienced strategist, a master combattant with many thousand years of experience, and has withstood attacks from cosmic entities. 🙏
 
Okay. I suppose that it would give us an official explanation for Thor getting overpowered by the Grey Gargoyle and Mister Hyde and being continuously extremely depowered and humiliated and forced to do uncharacteristically idiotic and/or unsympathetic things (such as endorsing Doctor Doom installing global fascism recently) by other writers, but it wouldn't explain the Rigellians or any of the many previous incidents, and it also seems very uncertain. 🙏
 
This is exactly why I'm doing my read of every single Thor appearance and running a statistical analysis to determine averages as well as keeping an eye out for variability mechanics
 
Okay. Thank you very much for helping out. 🙏
 
Quick question, Lightmaster's profile is only from when he becomes a light entity, right? I mean, the version where he only wore a suit (I think it was like 1 or 2 episodes before turned him into a light entity) doesn't count, right?

Now that I have some time, I'm interested in read his appearances and probably overhauling his profile if needed.
(It doesn't cite anything, or it links to a lot so it needs it.)
 
When Reed created the 8th cosmos he also made a flaw that was the holy grail which when activated would destroy the 8th cosmos and create a new one, to save the cosmos the Avengers opened a portal to the void outside of the 8th cosmos and sent the holy grail there which created the first firmament.
 
When Reed created the 8th cosmos he also made a flaw that was the holy grail which when activated would destroy the 8th cosmos and create a new one, to save the cosmos the Avengers opened a portal to the void outside of the 8th cosmos and sent the holy grail there which created the first firmament.
huh?
 
Hmm. I just read the first issue of new Storm comicbook series and it is actually a considerable improvement to the previous storyarc. The last one significantly annoyed me due to that it seemed to be written more as an extremely powertripping bull in a china shop anti-Thor trollfic than as a regular story that makes readers care about and sympathise with the protagonist, but the author is clearly growing and learning along the way, as those problems seem to have been considerably lessened here. 🙏
 
Hmm. I just read the first issue of new Storm comicbook series and it is actually a considerable improvement to the previous storyarc. The last one significantly annoyed me due to that it seemed to be written more as an extremely powertripping bull in a china shop anti-Thor trollfic than as a regular story that makes readers care about and sympathise with the protagonist, but the author is clearly growing and learning along the way, as those problems seem to have been considerably lessened here. 🙏
Editors probably told them to tone it down a bit, which is for the best. Not every character needs to be multiversal to have impactful and interesting stories, contrary to what many modern authors think.
 
Someone should try to get some accepted tier 7 or higher tier 8 feats for Spider-man Im sure there's some consistency to get atleast 8-A Spiderman or maybe low-7C
 
him being high 8-C right now doesn’t automatically make anything tier 7 to 6 an outlier
Someone should try to get some accepted tier 7 or higher tier 8 feats for Spider-man Im sure there's some consistency to get atleast 8-A Spiderman or maybe low-7C
iirc if you want to upgrade Spider-Man to Tier 7 you have to acknowledge Luke Cage's (who's portrayed as being way stronger than him) high-end durability being Small Town level+... completely ignoring that feat was performed by Ultron drones that one-shotted She-Hulk with regular blasts
 
iirc if you want to upgrade Spider-Man to Tier 7 you have to acknowledge Luke Cage's (who's portrayed as being way stronger than him) high-end durability being Small Town level+... completely ignoring that feat was performed by Ultron drones that one-shotted She-Hulk with regular blasts
Luke cage’s durability isn’t determined by a single anti feat, also the fact that a weaker attack one shotted she hulk means there’s a good chance it was higher than small town level+
 
Bendis has almost consistently gone out of his way to depower and/or humiliate She-Hulk and to wank Luke Cage as much as possible. She-Hulk is officially far more powerful than Luke. 🙏
 
him being high 8-C right now doesn’t automatically make anything tier 7 to 6 an outlier
How many feats does he have higher than tier 8? He has other antifeats like his struggle holding up the Daily Bugle.
 
Luke cage’s durability isn’t determined by a single anti feat, also the fact that a weaker attack one shotted she hulk means there’s a good chance it was higher than small town level+
That's exactly what my original comment is implying
Bendis has almost consistently gone out of his way to depower and/or humiliate She-Hulk and to wank Luke Cage as much as possible. She-Hulk is officially far more powerful than Luke. 🙏
If the whole thing is biased then it shouldn't be featured in his profile period.🤷‍♂️
Hell, one of the scans in his profile also shows him taking hits from Proxima Midnight (written by Al Ewing)
 
If the whole thing is biased then it shouldn't be featured in his profile period.🤷‍♂️
Hell, one of the scans in his profile also shows him taking hits from Proxima Midnight (written by Al Ewing)
Yes, we should probably stick to his own feats rather than comparisons. Proxima was once able to nearly pin the Hulk to the ground. 🙏
 
How many feats does he have higher than tier 8? He has other antifeats like his struggle holding up the Daily Bugle.
Spider man has At least 7 feats higher than tier 8, also struggling to hold up the daily bugle is LS not AP
 
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Yes, we should probably stick to his own feats rather than comparisons. Proxima was once able to nearly pin the Hulk to the ground. 🙏
We wouldn’t be sticking to his own feats if we ignore his fight with proxima because we don’t use his own feats to scale him we use the fact that he’s stronger than rhino and venom and tombstone to scale him currently
 
Spider man has At least 7 feats higher than tier 8, also struggling to hold up the daily bugle is LS but AP
It’s both, the Bugle feat is where his current tier comes from. Do you have a link to some of these? I’m not sure what you’re referring to.
 
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