"I won't give up until my enemy is dead" (AppleMaker vs Insane Sonic) (1-1-0)

[AppleMaker]

Rules:

• Speed is not equalized
• AppleMaker have high-end 9-C durability
• All equipment is restricted for both
• Starting distance is 5 meters

"I'll stonewall whatever shit you can throw at me": 1 (@Nonynho)
Attack potency scales to 263,55 Joules
Lifting strength acales to 110 kg
Durability upscales from 1313 Joules
Speed scales to 7,7 m/s

"YOU DESERVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT I'VE GONE THROUGH!!!": 1 (@MintyBoi1)
Attack potency scales to 184 Joules
Lifting strength scales to 188 kg
Durability scales to 184 Joules
Speed upscales from 10,03 m/s

Incon:

AppleMaker have 7,14x Durability and 1,43x Attack potency advantage
Sonic have 1,71x Lifting strength and 1,3x Speed advantage

 

[MintyBoi1]

Going off profiles, it seems like both are about equal in their ability to take great amounts of pain, being able to endure stabbings, though I’d give Sonic the edge for being able to run for nearly as run as Apple has walked with a fork stabbed into his hand. They also both have rage power, so any amps would just give Apple a slight edge in AP. Sonic seems more skilled, being an experienced killer and easily overwhelming several people throughout the story. With his greater speed and LS, I can see him winning via a grapple since the durability gap is so large. Leaning Insane Sonic

 

[Nonynho]

Think i'll be with apple today because the skill doesn't seem to be much higher for any side and Rage Power+huge durability diff will get Apple to feel lots of pain tomorrow but being 100% able to tank Sonic's kit

 

[MintyBoi1]

Think i'll be with apple today because the skill doesn't seem to be much higher for any side and Rage Power+huge durability diff will get Apple to feel lots of pain tomorrow but being 100% able to tank Sonic's kit

Sonic also has Rage Power though and he’s shown using grabs, which he would have advantage in with the LS gap

 

[Nonynho]

Sonic also has Rage Power though and he’s shown using grabs, which he would have advantage in with the LS gap

Yeah but the durability is way too much higher and the LS diff is just 1,7x
Sure, Rage Power should get Sonic to grab Apple really well and maybe even pin him down at some point, but the dura diff with lots and lots of adrenaline will make Apple feel basically nothing and this can cost dealy for Sonic's kit execution

 

[MintyBoi1]

Yeah but the durability is way too much higher and the LS diff is just 1,7x
Sure, Rage Power should get Sonic to grab Apple really well and maybe even pin him down at some point, but the dura diff with lots and lots of adrenaline will make Apple feel basically nothing and this can cost dealy for Sonic's kit execution

I see what you mean. If it were the 384 J end, Sonic would have a better chance, but getting a chokehold on someone that tough would be basically impossible. I’ll switch my vote to Apple, but it should be noted this can’t be added since Sonic’s standard equipment is restricted. Nothing that would help much. Even his brick which is optional probably wouldn’t help much with the gap.

 

[AppleMaker]

I see what you mean. If it were the 384 J end, Sonic would have a better chance, but getting a chokehold on someone that tough would be basically impossible. I’ll switch my vote to Apple, but it should be noted this can’t be added since Sonic’s standard equipment is restricted. Nothing that would help much. Even his brick which is optional probably wouldn’t help much with the gap.

Actually, VSBW allows character with higher LS incap opponents with higher dura or choke them

Composite Human vs Mr. Burns (1-0-1)

Rules: Mr. Burns have 8-C durability Speed is equalized Battle takes place on Roblox baseplate with invisible walls (so no, CH can't push him off the edge) All equipment is restricted for both Neither of them have prior knowledge of each other The strongest: 1...

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Do you need superior ap and lifting strength to choke out someone.

A discussion came up on a thread and I’m curious. Do you need ap and lifting strength to choke something out, I always assumed it would be purely lifting strength. Now I don’t mean like damaging the windpipe by crushing it. I mean like purely holding the neck in the way that prevents the...

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[AppleMaker]

So no, it's not really a stomp

 

[MintyBoi1]

So no, it's not really a stomp

I don’t mean it’s a stomp, it’s just heavily out of Sonic’s favor. The LS gap isn’t that big compared to the example you gave, so I’m unsure if it would be enough to keep pressure on the throat.