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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

GunshyFever said:
Thinking about it, it's likely due to death not using her power within the current arc, as she can't control it.
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With not using her powers because she can't control them, she just refers to not using Death manipulation on everyone accidentally, like when she told Yoru to leave them alone or she would kill her instantly, to then Yoru using Death's friends from the school festival to point out that they would die if she did

Other powers she used across part 2 should still be fine, she still eats and summons Pawns like eating the real Fami and fake chainsawman, summons falling devil, guillotine devil, still has all her pawns that denjiman ate in one chapter, still probably could "revive" someone like she did with Yuko, etc

So if that thing of teleporting herself and Yoru outside the aquarium was one of her abilities, she should still be able to use it with no problem, that's why I think she doing that is with Eternitys devil help, it better explains why she wouldn't use it at least a few arcs later in some ocassion because eternity devil was killed by Yoru (thought Death could just go to hell and grab him again, a weakened eternity but still eternity devil)
 
I'm referencing her enabling her power as more than just her death manipulation, but access to her other abilities as well.

Her summoning devils doesn't require her power as we've seen. She just needs to kill the devil in order to have them as pawns. As she has stockpiled devils throughout the majority of her time. Meaning currently she wouldn't need to use her power to actually use those pawns.
 
Death uses teleportation multiple times throughout Part 2. If I were to headcanon why she didn't use her mental separation power in the current arc, I'd say it requires Asa to be in control of the body for Asa to be the one left by herself.
 
Breadbear83 said:
Always thought that it was partly thanks to eternity devil, as because time doesn't flows within his domain (even after 3 days of being in the aquarium, no one went to help them, and I recall that in part 1 they also noticed that time wasn't flowing) meaning that it's a mental attack and that their bodies are still there in the aquarium, without time flowing

So eternity Devil, with that mental attack could also separate Yoru from being in the aquarium

Otherwise it may be that Yoru has gotten so strong that somehow Now Death couldn't separate them, or also being because Yoru now has almost absolute control over Asa body, even thought In the last arc asa has been scared of her all the time yet Yoru was still in control
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Or maybe it's death's plan and she doesn't really care to separate your and asa
 
I hope i have the time to catch the Asa/Yoru CRT, when is that expected to happen ?
 
I'm extremely confused on what Kishibe was doing here.
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Edit: He kicked Denji out of the way to avoid him from being hit by the bullet.
 
Unfortunately, there is no specific confirmation to where this location actually is, apart from this singular panel of Pochita moving forward toward a few mountain ranges. So they are likely on/beyond that mountain. The only location we actually know about for sure here is Pochitas, who is in Tokyo.
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GunshyFever said:
Unfortunately, there is no specific confirmation to where this location actually is, apart from this singular panel of Pochita moving forward toward a few mountain ranges. So they are likely on/beyond that mountain. The only location we actually know about for sure here is Pochitas, who is in Tokyo.
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has someone checked if these are drawn to match real mountains? we could maybe guess the location and the distance
 
I was making a calc it, so I guess if those are real mountains, this is easily a transonic travel feat.
 
Machmatej said:
has someone checked if these are drawn to match real mountains? we could maybe guess the location and the distance
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To calculate at what speed Pochita got to the aging devil location in less than a minute? Even with a 30 seconds midball on timeframe and he going across 1029km to reach aging Devil, thats baseline Massively Hypersonic (Mach 100) and Pochita is already Mach 619 from he throwing his hearth at high speeds

It would go for a supporting calc for Pochita (better on travell speed), but also I'm not even sure if Pochita started moving from Tokyo and got to whatever place aging devil was, as the group when to sushisi restaurant, I think because it was the best sushi restaurant in Japan that wasn't destroyed, so you may not assume Pochita started moving towards Aging Devil from Tokyo location
 
Breadbear83 said:
It would go for a supporting calc for Pochita (better on travell speed), but also I'm not even sure if Pochita started moving from Tokyo and got to whatever place aging devil was, as the group when to sushisi restaurant, I think because it was the best sushi restaurant in Japan that wasn't destroyed, so you may not assume Pochita started moving towards Aging Devil from Tokyo location
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Is the Sushi place not in Tokyo?
 
Pochita also had a good travel feat when he showed up in Family Burger as soon as Kobeni whispered but it's unquantifiable.

Pochita though has the ADVANCED travel speed tech of throwing his heart faster than he can run.
 
Zabazab said:
Pochita also had a good travel feat when he showed up in Family Burger as soon as Kobeni whispered but it's unquantifiable.
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Was Family Burger in Tokyo?

On a side note, I'm actually shocked that we haven't calced Pochita blitzing Quanxi and Miri across all that distance yet.
 
Zabazab said:
Pochita also had a good travel feat when he showed up in Family Burger as soon as Kobeni whispered but it's unquantifiable.

Pochita though has the ADVANCED travel speed tech of throwing his heart faster than he can run.
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It may has taken Pochita 2 seconds to get there, first kobeni whispers for help (Pochita hears her) the guy that punched her says "mmh? What did you say" then he hears a sound as says welcome to the customer (Pochita)

That could also be low levels supersonic speed


Also yeah, later on around chapter 190+ in the news they talk about the destruction that happened in the pochita vs yoru fight

GunshyFever said:
There are two mountains west of Tokyo:
This is how one of them look on google maps.
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Seems prominent, if we assume that Pochita could travel to those Mountains within 60 seconds, that's around Supersonic+ travel speed.
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Id use 60 seconds as highball timeframe because aging devil said that in less than a minute, pochita would arrived

45 seconds as midball and 30 seconds as low-ball
 
I'd say 45 seconds would be the best high balled time frame considering that anything at or below 30 seconds, Aging could've just said: "Chainsaw Man will arrive here under 30 seconds" or something like that.

Which is still about Mach 4.6 or Supersonic+
 
GunshyFever said:
Was Family Burger in Tokyo?

On a side note, I'm actually shocked that we haven't calced Pochita blitzing Quanxi and Miri across all that distance yet.
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Family burger actually has many places, in chainsaw church arc the hybrids were eating there and in the background of Chapters 220, when Yoru and Pochita are upside down, the logo of the place is seen (very hidden tho)

I doubt pochita went to another state, as I doubt Makima would catch to him from that far
 
It's about time I tried my luck messing around with the AP system. Figured it would be a good way to pass the time as we wait for the remaining speed feats to be calculated and the remaining to be evaluated. I'm feeling lucky, look out for something in the near future.
 
You guys think the fight is ending/gonna be over or there will be a twist final villain like Death crawling back from conceptual erasure as she rips open Denjita's entrails?
 
Probably something more along the lines of Asa or another devil will appear. I am devolving more into hoping Power will somehow make an appearance.
 
Epiccheev said:
Wait, it's real?
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Yeah, page 3 of Chapter 194, Denji looks at the news talking about the destruction that Yoru Made

Epiccheev said:
You guys think the fight is ending/gonna be over or there will be a twist final villain like Death crawling back from conceptual erasure as she rips open Denjita's entrails?
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eventually Fire Devil will have to come back whenever Denji is about to make that ´´choice´´ between 2 options, but i dont think he will get some weird power up that will make him Beat Denjiman and Yoru asses, someone else would do, like another primal devil, cuz at this point, whatever Primal Devil over there could fight them as much or even better than the locust devil did, Denji Man and Yoru have the advantage of Death being erased so Denji Man can eat the Devil or Yoru weaponize them
 
GunshyFever said:
Was Family Burger in Tokyo?

On a side note, I'm actually shocked that we haven't calced Pochita blitzing Quanxi and Miri across all that distance yet.
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as that other Yoru weaponization blitzing Pochita calc used Super Sonic Pochita because Quanxi is STATED to be faster than sound (so shes supersonic speed and reaction too), then i guess it would be accepted if in such calc you used supersonic perception for quanxi, and pochita blitzing her

Super sonic perception is 0.00265 seconds, s o if Pochita moved 100 meters from where he was standing at and how far he went, then 100m/0.00265 would be 37,735849 m/s (Mach 110.017, Massively Hypersonic)

actually, because of that, i may do a calc of that, id may end below Pochitas baseball Pitch but it can be a supportive recalc for pochita then
 
All you need to do is find:
  1. How deep each building is in the direction Pochita is flying
  2. gaps between buildings
  3. any extra travel to the final impact
Then you should be good regarding the distance.
 
Zabazab said:
Blood Devil was brought up not that long ago, Denji is contracted to find them.
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What if pieces of Blood Devil can resurrect people beyond erasure? Idk how but could be through contracts, people give it a piece of them, or more aptly, it could be a contract made with a family's bloodline where they sacrifice something like good fortune or their second born and Fujimoto uses that to bring Death devil back.
 
GunshyFever said:
All you need to do is find:
  1. How deep each building is in the direction Pochita is flying
  2. gaps between buildings
  3. any extra travel to the final impact
Then you should be good regarding the distance.
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I did the calc, it surprisingly got to Mach 548, almost the same as Pochita Coming back from space being Mach 639

also does the Feat being pochita moving 498 meters in an instant counts as travell speed or not? its an higher travell speed than 100% Gun Devil going across the world, and pochita from fear scaling scales above him
 
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