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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

GunshyFever said:
Alright, so considering a scenario where the movie canon thread gets rejected, I had a moment where I was like, "Hey, why don't we just calculate feats that were already in the manga, but that the movie gives us a better look at and are not wanked or exaggerated?" So I am going to cherry pick those scenes regarding speed and we can determine calcs and results from there on.

Feats (Uncalculated):

Feats (Calculated):
Yeah, 3 feats BUT consistent numbers. If these get created and evaled along with the Kishibe feat and both of these. We should be good to go.
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Im doing the Rezee dashing towards Makima Anime version, i got the timeframe right (5 to 13 frames or 0,2 to 0,5 seconds), but idk how to measure their distance, because of Makima being further away to the camera, does anyone know how to? i could use the trashcans for reference but theres still makima being further way

id guess its 10 meters away, but tbh if its 10 meters distance then only with the highball timeframe it would get to barely subsonic, which the feat should be at least subsonic because rezee´s vanishes to the human eye, it shouldnt be Super Human speed
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btw gunshy, when is the Yoru CRT dropping? And should she get "possible Power Nullification" with her transmutation? Since she apparently nulled Falling's regen (possibly Death's ownership too since shedidn't try to use Falling/recover her) and Eternity's domain over the acquarium
 
VoidGoji said:
btw gunshy, when is the Yoru CRT dropping? And should she get "possible Power Nullification" with her transmutation? Since she apparently nulled Falling's regen (possibly Death's ownership too since shedidn't try to use Falling/recover her) and Eternity's domain over the acquarium
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She was also confident on that turning Death Devil into a sword won't activate her ability that kills everyone, that she was fearing that could activate if she "died"

I believe only good thing you can have against Yorus weaponization is just high resistance to transmutation

GunshyFever said:
Crt comes out after the current arc ends/when Yoru becomes inactive combat wise
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Really? I even prepared some drafts with powers and abilities she would have changed/added in her keys, and ALL the weapons she has used across the manga

I'll have it saved for later then

Breadbear83 said:
Im doing the Rezee dashing towards Makima Anime version, i got the timeframe right (5 to 13 frames or 0,2 to 0,5 seconds), but idk how to measure their distance, because of Makima being further away to the camera, does anyone know how to? i could use the trashcans for reference but theres still makima being further way

id guess its 10 meters away, but tbh if its 10 meters distance then only with the highball timeframe it would get to barely subsonic, which the feat should be at least subsonic because rezee´s vanishes to the human eye, it shouldnt be Super Human speed
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Idk if I just suck ar calcing or the perspective of calc method is messed up but comparing the objects sizes that are mostly around the length of makimas length and one of those Big fans on the right (72cm each) gives me 3,06 meters distance between rezee and makima (which seems too short), plus another meter of rezee getting behind makima dependant of the timeframe

Makimas is 1,68cm tall and 126px tall, her legs are 54px while those big trash can next to rezee are 136px, and you can see more clearly that the trash cans are at rezees leg Level, who's also shorter in height to makima

I got the calc at 19 m/s at highball, below subsonic, but shouldn't vanishing to the viewers eye be baseline subsonic? That tier is already specified as "faster than eye"
 
GunshyFever said:
Results definitely aren't that low.
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The 3,06 meters one? Besides, those 5 frames timeframe are the quickest one I could make argument to support it

So for at least subsonic Rezee, I would need Makima and Rezee to have at least a 7 meters distance, which also seems like too much of a large distance from the perspective, as that's over 4 times makimas height who is the furthest away to the camera, and the objects between them are indeed around 70cm tall because they are at Makimas or Rezee leg level

The 5 frames timeframe being 0,2 seconds is even accurate to average human perception speed, unless I just were to ignore the timeframe and used Peak human 0,1 seconds perception speed to actually get to subsonic speed
 
GunshyFever said:
Alright, so considering a scenario where the movie canon thread gets rejected, I had a moment where I was like, "Hey, why don't we just calculate feats that were already in the manga, but that the movie gives us a better look at and are not wanked or exaggerated?" So I am going to cherry pick those scenes regarding speed and we can determine calcs and results from there on.

Feats (Uncalculated):

Feats (Calculated):
Yeah, 3 feats BUT consistent numbers. If these get created and evaled along with the Kishibe feat and both of these. We should be good to go.
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I Calculated the Rezee dashes towards Makima, Manga and Anime

as in the manga one theres not much way to make a Timeframe, besides makima saying a short sentence While Rezee is getting behind her, with Peak Human reaction speed (0,1 seconds) for Makima (a one Holding Back) the Feat gets to Peak Human, hardly to subsonic because they are just not that far apart to be over 3 meters of away of each other

The Manga one i also used Peak Human reaction of 0,1 seconds, as whatever way you see it, takes over 5 Timeframes for Rezee to Reach makima, over 0,2 seconds which is more that the average Human Perception Speed, so even a normal Human wouldnt be speed blitzed by a Peak Human speed from a few meters away

so that way the Anime Feat gets more consistently to baseline Sub Sonic (as theres a seemingly larger distance between Makima and Rezee in the anime)

the Calc could be better but at least it explains that it hardly gets to baseline sub sonic, probably not even worth it to be put as a mention in supportive calculations
 
Breadbear83 said:
I Calculated the Rezee dashes towards Makima, Manga and Anime

as in the manga one theres not much way to make a Timeframe, besides makima saying a short sentence While Rezee is getting behind her, with Peak Human reaction speed (0,1 seconds) for Makima (a one Holding Back) the Feat gets to Peak Human, hardly to subsonic because they are just not that far apart to be over 3 meters of away of each other

The Manga one i also used Peak Human reaction of 0,1 seconds, as whatever way you see it, takes over 5 Timeframes for Rezee to Reach makima, over 0,2 seconds which is more that the average Human Perception Speed, so even a normal Human wouldnt be speed blitzed by a Peak Human speed from a few meters away

so that way the Anime Feat gets more consistently to baseline Sub Sonic (as theres a seemingly larger distance between Makima and Rezee in the anime)

the Calc could be better but at least it explains that it hardly gets to baseline sub sonic, probably not even worth it to be put as a mention in supportive calculations
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The Manga Beam dashing forward Rezee Feat is better shown on this Imgur póst, from the last panel, where rezee is likely looking at where Denji was left to (and where Beam was once to), as if it was where Beam was left injured by Rezee, then there would be crack in the ground, theres barely like 3 meters from Rezee point of view to where Denji and Beam were once to

In the Anime they are further away from each other
 
The_Renegade_Slugger said:
Obviously unfinished, but thought I'd share something I'm working on:

I lifted a lot of the text from other profiles to try to keep it consistent with the rest of the verse
Also a lot of the scans are from the anime, I hope that's okay (I just like them more)
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Okay yeah, Nomo profile is done (though any suggestions are more than appreciated). But before I publish it, Gunshy's explosion calc needs to be evaluated, and movie canonicity needs to be established, because I'm pretty sure there's some discourse about that.
 
The_Renegade_Slugger said:
Okay yeah, Nomo profile is done (though any suggestions are more than appreciated). But before I publish it, Gunshy's explosion calc needs to be evaluated, and movie canonicity needs to be established, because I'm pretty sure there's some discourse about that.
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I guess you could put Statistics values next to each stat, giving the specific stats of said tier and in the sources section links to said Calc that had those values

For weaknesses, id specify that his own summon. Fox Devil, can refuse to eat an enemy if they taste bad to him, and so leaving him alone
 
Breadbear83 said:
I guess you could put Statistics values next to each stat, giving the specific stats of said tier and in the sources section links to said Calc that had those values

For weaknesses, id specify that his own summon. Fox Devil, can refuse to eat an enemy if they taste bad to him, and so leaving him alone
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Oh yeah, statistic values. I'll add those some time tomorrow. The weakness sounds reasonable, though it should probably be added to Aki's profile as well (as well as any other Fox Devil users who may or may not get profiles in the future (hell, maybe even the Fox Devil itself))
 
GunshyFever said:
Alright, so considering a scenario where the movie canon thread gets rejected, I had a moment where I was like, "Hey, why don't we just calculate feats that were already in the manga, but that the movie gives us a better look at and are not wanked or exaggerated?" So I am going to cherry pick those scenes regarding speed and we can determine calcs and results from there on.

Feats (Uncalculated):

Feats (Calculated):
Yeah, 3 feats BUT consistent numbers. If these get created and evaled along with the Kishibe feat and both of these. We should be good to go.
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I got the Fiend form Beam dashes fast toward reze, manga calc mostly finished, with Rezees arm and hand calculated because the feat is actually about Rezee blitzing Beam so fast that he didnt move from panel to panel, moving her arm and hand to touch his face
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the Problem is that im trying to find out how to calc her hands movements from her arm, and shoulders and elbow extension, and even asked in the calculation group for help on how
i have her arms being 51.89cm long (22,298cm + 29,591cm from elbow extension too) and her hand being 15,86cm, arm+ hand being 67,76cm

i guessed that her hand moved at least over 67,76, as thats her arm+ hand length, as her arm was in a relaxed posture with her hand down, to then have her arm all the way up, even above her head level

but anyway, does anyone knows how to calculate the hand movement here?
 
GunshyFever said:
This confirms that Fami isn't blonde
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Who's in charge of the volume covers coloring bruh, get that guy fired already
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also, im not sure if that still makes Blonde Fami a miscolor, in Volume 21 cover you do see her with gray hair but thats just the color palette, you do see that her hair color is the same as her sleeves, which clearly are white like any other Female uniform that Chainsaw Man characters wear
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Not sure if they really care about Canonicity in the covers. Probably just trying to set a vibe through the colors rather than be accurate.
 
I wonder why Death never used that power separation ability on Yoru as she did to her within the eternity devil arc.
 
GunshyFever said:
I wonder why Death never used that power separation ability on Yoru as she did to her within the eternity devil arc.
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Always thought that it was partly thanks to eternity devil, as because time doesn't flows within his domain (even after 3 days of being in the aquarium, no one went to help them, and I recall that in part 1 they also noticed that time wasn't flowing) meaning that it's a mental attack and that their bodies are still there in the aquarium, without time flowing

So eternity Devil, with that mental attack could also separate Yoru from being in the aquarium

Otherwise it may be that Yoru has gotten so strong that somehow Now Death couldn't separate them, or also being because Yoru now has almost absolute control over Asa body, even thought In the last arc asa has been scared of her all the time yet Yoru was still in control
 
Time not flowing, doesn't make it a mental attack, especially considering Asa turned all of that sub-space into a physical spear.

I like your final explanation though.
 
GunshyFever said:
Time not flowing, doesn't make it a mental attack, especially considering Asa turned all of that sub-space into a physical spear.

I like your final explanation though.
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Yeah, it doesn't have to be a mental attack

But otherwise, when fami snapped her fingers, it teleported herself and Yoru outside

Later on, when Asa's turns the aquarium into a spear, eternity devil complains to fami about this not being part of the deal

So Fami snapping her fingers, getting herself and Yoru specifically outside of the aquarium was part of their deal, Eternity Devil had them inside the aquarium but as part of the deal, choose to not put them inside

But for that The eternity Devil needs to have some kind of mind manipulation with his ability to separate Asa and Yoru

Technically, for Yoru and fami, it felt like no time (literally 0 seconds) from when they got outside, as time didn't flow outside the aquarium, so they would have been teleported to an already gone aquarium
 
Thinking about it, it's likely due to death not using her power within the current arc, as she can't control it.
 
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