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Unpopular Opinions and (Friendly) Rant thread

I instinctively distrust "humanity **** yeah kill the aliens" types because they basically broadcast from the jump that they would respond to something different from them with scorn, and I don't trust like that.
Depend on whether they actually threatens humanity or not.

If they do? Why you wouldn't fight back?

Even in Halo you only won because you actually fight back the covenant long enough for them to actually fracture to the civil war, then compromised those who actually want to ally with humanity.
 
Depend on whether they actually threatens humanity or not.

If they do? Why you wouldn't fight back?

Even in Halo you only won because you actually fight back the covenant long enough for them to actually fracture to the civil war, then compromised those who actually want to ally with humanity.
I mean the "posts imperium of man/helldivers memes/that one psychotic colonialist rant from Avatar whenever aliens are mentioned" types.
 
imperium of man
Helldivers and Avatar are a plot of exploitative resource extraction and how they impacted aliens. But IoM are actually have their own collective generational trauma to alien beings, and the fact that almost all of the aliens post Great Crusade are want to kill them.
 
I instinctively distrust "humanity **** yeah kill the aliens" types because they basically broadcast from the jump that they would respond to something different from them with scorn, and I don't trust like that.
This reminded me, it's not the most unpopular take but I feel that aliens have to be real. There's no way we're the only intelligent life form in the entire history of the universe.
Though I also believe gnomes are real, so, I might just be a bit of a crackhead
 
This reminded me, it's not the most unpopular take but I feel that aliens have to be real. There's no way we're the only intelligent life form in the entire history of the universe.
Though I also believe gnomes are real, so, I might just be a bit of a crackhead
Not believing that aliens are real is the crackhead take. Its mathematically impossible for there to not be alien life. Maybe not scifi super advanced alien life, but definitly some form of life
 
I usually root for everything not-regular-human to wreck humanity in fiction because irl humanity sucks and whenever the humanity isn't based in it like Ordem Paranormal, Hunter x Hunter or other similar titles, it is way more racist and ridiculous in general like Skyrim and specially Warhammer (from the very little i've read so far, the Imperium of Mankind SUCKS ASS, everything is heresy and they wipe the brains of otherwise regular humans just to be a cyborg to open a door or a baby with wings to carry bullets/rounds).

Gets a bonus point with me if what's destroying mankind is part of the nature of the world or universe, like Warhammer's Chaos (Cruel too? Yeah, a lot. But humankind is doing a lot of f***** up things and Chaos was already there before them, so i'm at neither side, but i'm 100% more at Horus' side than the Emperor's) or Ordem Paranormal's Holy Cradle (the Other Side elements were already there, some guys just put this medieval community from Iceland in Brazil in 2019 and like 6 guys suffer inside a white room to get a whole community to be fine? Yeah, i want to kill Ferreiro too, but the rest is not as horrible, ngl)
I dont care much for other peoples misanthropy, to each their own.

But pretending that Chaos and subsequently Horus arent primary at fault for Humanities shittyness is a take of all time. You can't say "Oh I root against humanity because humans are inherently cruel to each other and the universe" and then feign neutrality when it comes to the ************* warp and the Chaos Gods. You know, the warp? The realm that houses the human psyche and has direct influence over it? And the Chaos Gods? Personifications of the worst traits of every living being? Literally anything bad that happened to 40k Humanity can be traced back to Chaos, heck im fairly certain Chaos is the reason why AI gets ****** up in the universe, kneecapping a entire race in technology. And its not even Humanities fault that Chaos got so ****** up in the first place, thank you "War in Heaven" and Eldars.

Horus was wrong and **** Erebus
 
We? We invented what? We built what? We made what?
a30
 
Humanity is superior.
**** off, nobody's superior to nobody

"Humanity is superior to everything else" mfs are annoying but "humanity sucks" mfs lack hope, and both of these are equally bad.
that's actually not as wrong, tho i think recognizing humanity sucks is the first step to actually getting something to be better

but would want to elaborate that it'd generally be preferable to at least treat every living being (if not literally everything that exists in this world) with at least equal respect unless any individual being has committed stuff that may necessitate eliminating them for the well-being of all others.
and because humanity in general doesn't do it that i say it sucks ASS

Human have potential to do both good and evil, to blame humanity as a whole is disingenuous.
Humanity in general is blamable because humanity in general do this, to not recognize this is actually a bit disingenuous and this is a loooooooooong talk

But pretending that Chaos and subsequently Horus arent primary at fault for Humanities shittyness is a take of all time.
Chaos is part of the nature, we can't do much about it other than adapt to it. Humanity sucks more than
But as i literally said, i'm not at Horus side, he also sucks very very much and there's no way to not say his right and not being meme'ing
Humanity sucks 0,01% more because their negative impact on others is not part of nature or something, just result of cruelty, blindness and many many other stuff that could and should be avoided for a better environment.
Orks, Necrons and whatever you may think justify hard times and difficult decisions, but not brain-wipe people and turn them into door openers or get the same process to babies and turn them into bullet carriers with wings. Mf how does anyone justify this?

Horus was wrong and **** Erebus
I'm with ya
 
Chaos is part of the nature, we can't do much about it other than adapt to it. Humanity sucks more than
No, Chaos is not "Part of the nature", Chaos is a actively malicious force that poisoned the minds of everything within the galaxy. Chaos is what is wrong with humanity. Chaos is a existential threat that literally preys on the weak and downthrotted. If it werent for fanaticism and the protection of the Emperor, humanity would be stuck in a warp infested hellscape.
But as i literally said, i'm not at Horus side, he also sucks very very much and there's no way to not say his right and not being meme'ing
You literally said you were on Horus' side.
Humanity sucks 0,01% more because their negative impact on others is not part of nature or something, just result of cruelty, blindness and many many other stuff that could and should be avoided for a better environment.
This is just an asinine take, i genuinly mean no offence but you are blaming the victim of grooming in a grooming case. Humanity is shitty BECAUSE evil is a active force that predates your very psyche. You can be the most upstanding person on earth right now, the moment a demon looks at your soul funny you become a depraved maniac. Before the age of strive, humanity was a utopic race that had its shit figured OUT. Now ask yourself why the AI that served humanity without issues suddenly turned Terminator on its masters. I'm no betting man (i am actually), but Chaos being able to corrupt machine spirits nowadays surely didnt had its hand in corrupting super powerful AI systems. Surely not.

Chaos is not just "nature". Chaos is gods playing their own sick version of darwinism. Chaos is not a hot clima that forces desert people to adapt. Its evil incarnate ******* with you in your goddamn sleep.
Orks, Necrons and whatever you may think justify hard times and difficult decisions, but not brain-wipe people and turn them into door openers or get the same process to babies and turn them into bullet carriers with wings. Mf how does anyone justify this?
...Orks had literal human cattle farms. Necrons are LITERALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CURRENT STATE OF THE UNIVERSE. Next your gonna tell me the Eldars are misunderstood.

Its just a really dumb take to even imply that the Imperium is worse than Chaos. It literally cant be worse than then Chaos. The reason you hate humanity for ARE BECAUSE OF CHAOS. You can still critisize and hate humanity and the imperium, thats perfectly fine. You don't have to change your views on that. But saying the Imperium is worse than chaos is dumb. Fullstop.
 
Why i would?
Who built nuclear reactors?
Who made medicine?
Who made swords?
Guns?
Humans!
We are superior to everthing.
and because humanity in general doesn't do it that i say it sucks ASS
^To Nonynho, at least a few subgroups of humanity do try, but yeah the rest could and should at least try too.
"Humanity sucks" and "Humanity above all"
both such ass and are annoying
There's a Reddit thread for the latter, welp.
But I can recommend another thread that will make everyone feel better.

To Homie and Dodecatrihan:

https://www.cracked.com/article_17019_5-real-life-soldiers-who-make-rambo-look-like-*****.html

Oddly enough no one mentioned Karl Wendlinger, Kenny Bräck and John Stapp in these lists with regard to durability or injury tolerance in terms of g-force (Karl survived 360 g and Kenny survived 214 g in racing accidents and John voluntarily survived 46.2 g, where >50 g is usually fatal).

That being said:
Look how much Nature and the Universe outdo us.
 
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^To Nonynho, at least a few subgroups of humanity do try, but yeah the rest could and should at least try too.

There's a Reddit thread for the latter, welp
But I can recommend another thread that will make everyone feel better.

To Homie and Dodecatrihan:


Oddly enough no one mentioned Karl Wendlinger, Kenny Bräck and John Stapp in these lists with regard to durability or injury tolerance in terms of g-force (Karl survived 360 g and Kenny survived 214 g in racing accidents and John voluntarily survived 46.2 g, where >50 g is usually fatal).

That being said:
Look how much Nature and the Universe outdo us.
Even more proof Humans are goated.
(I did not read one article)
 
Even more proof Humans are goated.
(I did not read one article)
 
Had my first ever actual irl date! It was rly fun and shes the best, now that i'm here. Movie dates are kinda boring for a first date, not sure why anyone would wanna do that when you can eat out, go to a museum. Maybe even an Aquarium,
Had my first kiss at 21, that being said.


DO NOT DATE A GIRL WITH ONLY GUY FRIENDS, SMOKES, OR TEXTS THEIR EXES WHILE DATING YOU 😀😀😀😀😀🙁🙁🙁🙁
 
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No, Chaos is not "Part of the nature", Chaos is a actively malicious force that poisoned the minds of everything within the galaxy. Chaos is what is wrong with humanity. Chaos is a existential threat that literally preys on the weak and downthrotted. If it werent for fanaticism and the protection of the Emperor, humanity would be stuck in a warp infested hellscape.
Has mankind or other species created the warp? Or was it there before they discovered it?
If it's the second case, it's nature

You literally said you were on Horus' side.
I did not
(Cruel too? Yeah, a lot. But humankind is doing a lot of f***** up things and Chaos was already there before them, so i'm at neither side, but i'm 100% more at Horus' side than the Emperor's)
I like him as a character, reading the Siege of Terra, but that mf was not right

This is just an asinine take, i genuinly mean no offence but you are blaming the victim of grooming in a grooming case. Humanity is shitty BECAUSE evil is a active force that predates your very psyche. You can be the most upstanding person on earth right now, the moment a demon looks at your soul funny you become a depraved maniac. Before the age of strive, humanity was a utopic race that had its shit figured OUT. Now ask yourself why the AI that served humanity without issues suddenly turned Terminator on its masters. I'm no betting man (i am actually), but Chaos being able to corrupt machine spirits nowadays surely didnt had its hand in corrupting super powerful AI systems. Surely not.

Chaos is not just "nature". Chaos is gods playing their own sick version of darwinism. Chaos is not a hot clima that forces desert people to adapt. Its evil incarnate ******* with you in your goddamn sleep.
But saying the Imperium is worse than chaos is dumb. Fullstop.

From all (the little) i've read, nobody invented the warp, nobody invented the daemons
Humanity must unite/strengthen itself to not instantly die against Chaos forces, yes. Humanity is a victim of Chaos, yes
but specifically the Imperium sucks, for starters, because of shit like this. Being a victim doesn't give you the right to make victims and you can't tell me THIS IS JUSTIFIABLE
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OR THIS

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Humanity needs to defend itself, but it does not need fascism, monocracy, deceit, religious enforcement, child abuse, torture, lobotomy, forced labour/slavery that impedes your death to BECOME SOMETHING THAT FLUSHES AUTOMATIC TOILETS

And to that i point the middle finger

...Orks had literal human cattle farms. Necrons are LITERALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CURRENT STATE OF THE UNIVERSE. Next your gonna tell me the Eldars are misunderstood.
I literally said that to face those races humanity has to take difficult decisions (pointing out later that those trying times don't justify stuff like what i've shown above), i think that makes it what, 60% of what i said we actually agree on????
 
^To Nonynho, at least a few subgroups of humanity do try, but yeah the rest could and should at least try too.
I hope those subgroups get larger and humanity can get somewhere more respectable
But putting hope beside, and we have great reasons to do so, it's not likely that something like it is going to happen
 
Has mankind or other species created the warp? Or was it there before they discovered it?
If it's the second case, it's nature
The War in Heaven caused chaos yes.
I did not

I like him as a character, reading the Siege of Terra, but that mf was not right
Liking him as a character and agreeing with him over humanity are 2 different pair of shoes.
From all (the little) i've read, nobody invented the warp, nobody invented the daemons
War in Heaven. Eldars.
Humanity must unite/strengthen itself to not instantly die against Chaos forces, yes. Humanity is a victim of Chaos, yes
but specifically the Imperium sucks, for starters, because of shit like this. Being a victim doesn't give you the right to make victims and you can't tell me THIS IS JUSTIFIABLE
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OR THIS

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Humanity needs to defend itself, but it does not need fascism, monocracy, deceit, religious enforcement, child abuse, torture, lobotomy, forced labour/slavery that impedes your death to BECOME SOMETHING THAT FLUSHES AUTOMATIC TOILETS

And to that i point the middle finger
Continue to do that. Thats your perogative. Chaos is still the ******* reason.
I literally said that to face those races humanity has to take difficult decisions (pointing out later that those trying times don't justify stuff like what i've shown above), i think that makes it what, 60% of what i said we actually agree on????
Yeah, I misunderstood that sentence, my bad g.
 
Give me material to read on this, currently i'm pushing through The End and The Death 1 and plan on reading Gotrek and Felix's stuff right after
Shit is spread across, I think you will find most of the information on it in Necron and Eldar Codexes and "The Infinite and Divine" Novels.
 
Continue to do that. Thats your perogative. Chaos is still the ******* reason.
reason to create defenses? yes
reason to take difficult decisions, unite under one flag and decide certain differences later? oh yeah
But...
it does not need fascism, monocracy, deceit, religious enforcement, child abuse, torture, lobotomy, forced labour/slavery that impedes your death to BECOME SOMETHING THAT FLUSHES AUTOMATIC TOILETS

And to that i point the middle finger
...And none of that is reasonably justifiable by any means. That's not being weak or smth, it's just wrapping my head around all that's wrong with this Emperor full of lies and bs
 
I hope those subgroups get larger and humanity can get somewhere more respectable
But putting hope beside, and we have great reasons to do so, it's not likely that something like it is going to happen
I'm primarily thinking of animists, African and indigenous religions/beliefs/faiths/paths, Jains, and the stricter end of the spectrum for Buddhists when I mention the subgroups of humanity that fit the context.
Then again, a lot of faiths, as I've mentioned before, had very similar ideas on virtues and vices and morality, ethics, principles, etc, just to varying degrees. (Unfortunately though, history shows that such similarities were less appreciated while people clashed due to their differences... and a lot of times said ideas were not expanded/extrapolated beyond communities and societies to a global scale... I only hope we can still resolve and move past the conflicts of the past and present.)

AND WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES.

^Links to different sections of the same article.



This has also been covered before.
 
Humanity in general is blamable because humanity in general do this, to not recognize this is actually a bit disingenuous and this is a loooooooooong talk
Humanity is capable of both evil and good, to only recognize their evils is just stupid lmao.
 
This discussion has revealed very insightful things, such as that 40k lore discussion is dead, and BECMI is still the superior DND version because I can worship a guy that became an immortal and the only thing he did with it is make horse-man monsters whose sole role is to protect horses.
My favorite immortal is the guy that was literally just the janitor of a spaceship.
 
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