Blazblue: Removing some of Hazama's powers and resistances

[Hypertornado099]

Disagree with him being reduced to drops of blood, its very obvious that he was pushed into the pool instead

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

To my understanding Hazama does genuinely have the regeneration ability and a fairly high level of it (upscaling from the Low-Mid/Mid range according to glass), my issue is that itself doesn't really prove he was splattered like that.

Mostly asked so we had something to cite still, but fair enough if that's the case

 

[Theglassman12]

@LephyrTheRevanchist There might be another form of regeneration that puts him higher than what's currently on the page, but I'm saving that to when I do my overhaul of BlazBlue as a whole, so if the Low-High stuff gets removed then it is what it is imo.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@LephyrTheRevanchist There might be another form of regeneration that puts him higher than what's currently on the page, but I'm saving that to when I do my overhaul of BlazBlue as a whole, so if the Low-High stuff gets removed then it is what it is imo.

Funny thing is, from reading up on the spirit stuff on this thread, I figured he could get something higher (which was my secondary motive for asking)

 

[Theglassman12]

The spirit stuff with Terumi is somewhat connected, but it does have to do with Observation which Hazama himself scales off of. Again I'd prefer saving this for my overhaul project for the franchise when I revise the series from the ground up so if we have to nerf the regen to something lower, fine by me.

Though depending on how the type 8 Immortality works with the Life Link, Hazama is linked with someone that has High-Godly regen right now that makes it to where he constantly comes back to life due to his life literally being linked with another immortal being and regenerating from any fatal injuries inflicted on him.

 

[Vietthai96]

I disagree with the removals, based on the above posts. That Hazama statement for Precognition seems especially blatant to me. I think the only slightly debatable aspect is the regeneration, but the surrounding context seems solid enough to justify it staying.

Same here, though i'm neutral on the Low-High stuff. Manga with black and white color is hard to identify whenever something black is blood or shadow

 

[Reiner04]

@Planck69 @Reiner04 in particular I would ask you to evaluate your own agreements with this part of the thread. What has been debated isn't really pertaining to the main issue, which is that there isn't any actual evidence for Low-High. Regeneration, maybe, but not that particular level.

The way I see this scene, it doesn't appear to be a "splash of water". The event seems to be occurring outside the pool itself in vertical. Furthermore, the fact that Terumi emerged in spirit form, despite the two supposedly being inseparable, provides enough context to conclude that the scene is literal rather than metaphorical. So i still think Regen can work here.

 

[Armorchompy]

The way I see this scene, it doesn't appear to be a "splash of water". The event seems to be occurring outside the pool itself in vertical. Furthermore, the fact that Terumi emerged in spirit form, despite the two supposedly being inseparable, provides enough context to conclude that the scene is literal rather than metaphorical. So i still think Regen can work here.

You're aping an argument Glass made a while ago (in a concerningly similar manner shall I add), catch up with the conversation. The walls were too far away for that to make sense and the panel clearly shows a splash of water anyways. Terumi also emerges from the water meaning that we're directly shown that's where his body was - at which point the argument that it's just the blood fails to hold because the body could just be underwater.

 

[SeijiSetto]

The way I see this scene, it doesn't appear to be a "splash of water". The event seems to be occurring outside the pool itself in vertical. Furthermore, the fact that Terumi emerged in spirit form, despite the two supposedly being inseparable, provides enough context to conclude that the scene is literal rather than metaphorical. So i still think Regen can work here.

it's probably a splash
the sound effect (バシャバシャ) is for splishing and splashing and hitting the surface of water

 

[Reiner04]

it's probably a splash
the sound effect (バシャバシャ) is for splishing and splashing and hitting the surface of water

I see. It appears to be some form of inconsistency in that case (or maybe it was sound of blood splashing?) since in the direction where he was kicked, there was basically no water or extension of pool at all (?)

Edit: but yeah, looking at the arguements it does appears that there is lack of confirmation on what actually happened to the body.

 

[LiveElvinClive]

Bumping this since I’m wondering what the consensus is so far.