DarkLock92
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Why are you assuming that the rest of the angelic weapons are unable to achieve the same thing?
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Hazbin Hotel Revisions (I Clean-ed It Up)
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He already said that nothing in Vox's disposal could kill him before knowing about the Might of Lilith. If he thought that the rest of the blades could do that to him he wouldn't say that (or he'd just be blatantly incorrect)
DarkLock92
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Or, they can hurt him and he'll heal from them, and won't die, just like he did after he escaped the Might of Lilith.
The cables and the weapons are literally made of the same stuff there's no difference between them.
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Also a reminder that Lucifer was mostly fine after the whole ordeal and simply needed rest, unlike Stolas who got put in the hospital.
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Which is also a big assumption, since we're trying to give him a lot of immortalities based off a single line about not being able to be killed by the angelic weaponry Vox has. Sure it could mean they hurt him but we wouldn't know that considering the only Angelic Weaponry that's ever even threatened him was the giant specialized weapon specifically made to work on Lucifer.
DarkLock92
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It's designed to drain him not kill him. In fact Vox specifically states that he's counting on Lucifer not dying. Even after Vox went crazy and spammed the MoL, Lucifer's simply ended up "drained/tired".
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That doesn't change the fact the only angelic weapon to ever even threaten him in any capacity is the giant weapon made specifically to work on him.
Regular angelic weapons were already shown to be inferior to the might of lilith, since vaggie's spear couldn't even dent the thing. It's not a stretch to say the guy is just that durable compared to the normal ones.
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Is it really that that far-fetched for the guy who made an entire species of immortals, to also be immortal?
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I'm more against giving him sinner immortalities which is what the OP is suggesting. Giving him sinner immortalities based off that statement is silly. Give him angel/winner immortalities all you want. makes more sense, but still.
Want to give him those immortalities? scale him to Adam and the Seraphims.
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How much a threat was it when all Lucifer needed afterwards was a nap?
I doubt the cables were as reinforced as the outside of the weapon.
Eden_Warlock99
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Exorcists have no immortality and Winners apparently have the same regen as Sinners (Besides some reddit replies, couldn't find anything about the Sinner immortality being a punishment) so he just sorta ends up scaling to Sinners anyway?
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So the weapon designed to siphon his powered didn't do much damage to him and the regular angelic weapons are duper inferior to said weapon that barely did anything to him and you want to give him immortalities based off the idea that said weapons that by your own logic are already EVEN MORE inferior than barely doing anything to him would harm him to an extent to actually threaten his life?
Uh yeah. Giving him the heavenly abilities (Where he originates from) makes more sense than giving him the Hell abilities (does not originate from) if we're gonna argue about physiology.You except me to believe giving Lucifer winner abilities makes more sense?He should technically be even HARDER to kill than Sinners ngl
Why do winners have the same regen as sinners? Do any sinners even get hurt on screen? I don't recall.
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You mean Winners? Ig Pentious does break his bones here and he's fine later.
Also have to consider that Sinners/Winners are two sides of the same coin, like there's genuinely no reason for Heaven to only make Sinners immortal.
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Yeah okay that checks out. Suppose that's fine.
More suffering? Idk man. I suppose with winners they don't particularly need such extent immortalities as someone in hell would considering only one of those groups of people are gonna get cannibalized over and over again but that's speculation and irrelevant in my case.
If Luc end up just scaling to sinners anyways through winners, ig that's fine.
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I think there's a misunderstanding here. We saw Lucifer get stabbed by the MoL's cables, meaning they obviously scale to his durability. Why are you claiming that regular angelic weapons are inferior to those when:
-Vaggie's spear not scratching the weapon is pretty much what happens when you use a bladed weapon against armor, let alone the reinforced hull of a superweapon. I mean Charlie's shield doesn't have scratch on hit despite blocking many strikes from AWs.
-The exterior of the MoL is likely to be much tougher than the cables inside, just by thickness alone because that's how metal armor works.
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Vaggie couldn't even get him out of the big glass tube he was in when she got inside of the thing. Clearly the whole thing is just too durable, not just the outside.
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Vox upscale?!?!??!?!I mean...
Anonymous_Learner
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Yes, unironically
Mythic381
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I take credit for that, just because
Mythic381
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Arguably that's only residue from his claws which the glass scraped off, rather than him actually scratching it.I mean...
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DarkLock92
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Vox exposing himself as a fraud while trying to aura farm is definitely accurate
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Vox and fraud in the same sentence buddy he’s the only mf in this verse that isn’t one
DarkLock92
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The "strongest sinner" when he has to fight wounded, broken staff AlastorVox and fraud in the same sentence buddy he’s the only mf in this verse that isn’t one
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Mythic381
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I'm not sure what's more threatening. You threatening to add someone to agreement, or Reaper threatening to "downgrade your favorite verse."
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unsolicited glaze, penalty on mythic for two CRTs.
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I know I'm late, but I agree with everything.
Regarding Lucifer, I think option 2 is better because I don't think it makes sense for him to suffer from the power nullification of angelic weapons but resist their main effect of erasing and purifying souls—not that it's impossible, just improbable to me.
Regarding Lucifer, I think option 2 is better because I don't think it makes sense for him to suffer from the power nullification of angelic weapons but resist their main effect of erasing and purifying souls—not that it's impossible, just improbable to me.
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