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Murder Drones Discussion Thread

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I know the pilot had dropped just yesterday (at the time of this writing), but I feel like this is a series worth keeping an eye on. I've already seen some seemingly impressive feats on display.

 
Anyway
Does anyone have hope on murder drones novelization?
As I remember, it's should expand lore of original plot.
 
Question: I basically redid Psychomaster's calculation for the first explosion, since his calculation was debunked. I basically found where the real crater is located. Tell me what you think.

Given its cathedral-like architecture, I will use an estimate based on an average length of approximately 120 meters, which seems very reasonable to me.
The cathedral measures 1190 pixels in length.

So 120/1190 ≈ 0,10
The crater therefore measures 552 pixels.

552×0,10 ≈ 55,2

Therefore, the crater measures 55 meters in diameter.

It is known that the explosion excavated from the core up to the surface, where the JCJenson laboratories were located. And the cathedral is deeply buried underground beneath the JCJensen laboratories. And the implosion rose to the surface and passed through JcJanson's labs.

Doll measures 93 pixels.

The hole measures 817 pixels.
817/93 = 8,78
Doll measures 130 cm.
130 × 8.78 = 1,141 => 1,141 cm = 11.41 meters.

The image or doll falling actually only shows the 3/4 of the hole.

The hole in question seen above measures 38 pixels on J data.

And so the end of the crater before reaching the laboratories measures 22 pixels.
38/22 = 1,72

14,26/1,72 = 8,29 meters

So the crater at the core measures 55.2 meters and the crater further above, which is the end of the implosion, measures 8.29 meters. Now we need to determine the volume of the crater.

h = 6 371 000
r = 4,14
R = 27,6
V = πh/3 (R²+Rr+r²)
V = 3,14×6,371 × 10⁶/3 (27,6²+27,6 × 4,14+4,14²)
V = 2,000 × 10⁷/3 (761,76+114,264+17,1396)
V = 2,000 × 10⁷/3 × 893,1636
V = 1,78 × 10¹⁰/3
V = 5,93 × 10⁹

The volume of the crater is 6,83 × 10⁹ m³
p = 5520kg/m³ (density of earth)
v = 5,93 × 10⁹ (volume of the crater)

Now the torn mass.
m=pV

m = 5520×5,93 × 10⁹
m = 3,27 × 10¹³

Okay, now we need to know the speed at which the debris was ejected. I'm going to reuse the data found by Psychomaster35 for this.
d = 6280759,2068 ≈ 6,280×10⁶
Δt = 0,48 s

v=d/Δt
v=6,280×10⁶/0,48 = 1,308×10⁷ m/s

KE relativistic = 3,23 × 10²⁷ (multi-contient)

The kinetic energy of the ejected debris is 2.465×10²⁷ (“High 6-A” Multi-Continent level). Yori and Yeva are in the church at that moment, and were at the epicenter of the explosion and should be scaled to at least this level, so the murder drones and solver administrators should be scaled to this level in terms of resistance and raw physical power, as they are capable of killing each other.
 
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Kirua29 said:
Question: I basically redid Psychomaster's calculation for the first explosion, since his calculation was debunked. I basically found where the real crater is located. Tell me what you think.

Given its cathedral-like architecture, I will use an estimate based on an average length of approximately 120 meters, which seems very reasonable to me.
The cathedral measures 1190 pixels in length.

So 120/1190 ≈ 0,10
The crater therefore measures 552 pixels.

552×0,10 ≈ 55,2

Therefore, the crater measures 55 meters in diameter.

It is known that the explosion excavated from the core up to the surface, where the JCJenson laboratories were located. And the cathedral is deeply buried underground beneath the JCJensen laboratories. And the implosion rose to the surface and passed through JcJanson's labs.

Doll measures 93 pixels.

The hole measures 817 pixels.
817/93 = 8,78
Doll measures 130 cm.
130 × 8.78 = 1,141 => 1,141 cm = 11.41 meters.

The image or doll falling actually only shows the 3/4 of the hole.

The hole in question seen above measures 38 pixels on J data.

And so the end of the crater before reaching the laboratories measures 22 pixels.
38/22 = 1,72

14,26/1,72 = 8,29 meters

So the crater at the core measures 55.2 meters and the crater further above, which is the end of the implosion, measures 8.29 meters. Now we need to determine the volume of the crater.

h = 6 371 000
r = 4,14
R = 27,6
V = πh/3 (R²+Rr+r²)
V = 3,14×6,371 × 10⁶/3 (27,6²+27,6 × 8,29+4,14²)
V = 2,000 × 10⁷/3 (761,76+228,804+17,1396)
V = 2,000 × 10⁷/3 × 1 007,7036
V = 2, 015 × 10¹⁰/3
V = 6,83 × 10⁹

The volume of the crater is 6,83 × 10⁹ m³
p = 5520kg/m³ (density of earth)
v = 6,83 × 10⁹ (volume of the crater)

Now the torn mass.
m=pV

m = 5520×6,83 × 10⁹
m = 3,770 × 10¹³

Okay, now we need to know the speed at which the debris was ejected. I'm going to reuse the data found by Psychomaster35 for this.
d = 6280759,2068 ≈ 6,280×10⁶
Δt = 0,48 s

v=d/Δt
v=6,280×10⁶/0,48 = 1,308×10⁷ m/s


We will now calculate the amount of joules involved in the explosion using the kinetic energy formula from classical mechanics.
m = 3,897 × 10¹³
v = 1,308×10⁷

E=1/2 mv²
E=1/2 3,770 × 10¹³ × (1,308×10⁷)²
E=1/2 3,770 × 10¹³ × 1,308×10¹⁴
E=1/2 4,931×10²⁷
E=2,465×10²⁷

The kinetic energy of the ejected debris is 2.465×10²⁷ (“High 6-A” Multi-Continent level). Yori and Yeva are in the church at that moment, and were at the epicenter of the explosion and should be scaled to at least this level, so the murder drones and solver administrators should be scaled to this level in terms of resistance and raw physical power, as they are capable of killing each other.
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I guess you should post it on your ur fandom wiki first
 
Kirua29 said:
Question: I basically redid Psychomaster's calculation for the first explosion, since his calculation was debunked. I basically found where the real crater is located. Tell me what you think.

Given its cathedral-like architecture, I will use an estimate based on an average length of approximately 120 meters, which seems very reasonable to me.
The cathedral measures 1190 pixels in length.

So 120/1190 ≈ 0,10
The crater therefore measures 552 pixels.

552×0,10 ≈ 55,2

Therefore, the crater measures 55 meters in diameter.

It is known that the explosion excavated from the core up to the surface, where the JCJenson laboratories were located. And the cathedral is deeply buried underground beneath the JCJensen laboratories. And the implosion rose to the surface and passed through JcJanson's labs.

Doll measures 93 pixels.

The hole measures 817 pixels.
817/93 = 8,78
Doll measures 130 cm.
130 × 8.78 = 1,141 => 1,141 cm = 11.41 meters.

The image or doll falling actually only shows the 3/4 of the hole.

The hole in question seen above measures 38 pixels on J data.

And so the end of the crater before reaching the laboratories measures 22 pixels.
38/22 = 1,72

14,26/1,72 = 8,29 meters

So the crater at the core measures 55.2 meters and the crater further above, which is the end of the implosion, measures 8.29 meters. Now we need to determine the volume of the crater.

h = 6 371 000
r = 4,14
R = 27,6
V = πh/3 (R²+Rr+r²)
V = 3,14×6,371 × 10⁶/3 (27,6²+27,6 × 8,29+4,14²)
V = 2,000 × 10⁷/3 (761,76+228,804+17,1396)
V = 2,000 × 10⁷/3 × 1 007,7036
V = 2, 015 × 10¹⁰/3
V = 6,83 × 10⁹

The volume of the crater is 6,83 × 10⁹ m³
p = 5520kg/m³ (density of earth)
v = 6,83 × 10⁹ (volume of the crater)

Now the torn mass.
m=pV

m = 5520×6,83 × 10⁹
m = 3,770 × 10¹³

Okay, now we need to know the speed at which the debris was ejected. I'm going to reuse the data found by Psychomaster35 for this.
d = 6280759,2068 ≈ 6,280×10⁶
Δt = 0,48 s

v=d/Δt
v=6,280×10⁶/0,48 = 1,308×10⁷ m/s


We will now calculate the amount of joules involved in the explosion using the kinetic energy formula from classical mechanics.
m = 3,897 × 10¹³
v = 1,308×10⁷

E=1/2 mv²
E=1/2 3,770 × 10¹³ × (1,308×10⁷)²
E=1/2 3,770 × 10¹³ × 1,308×10¹⁴
E=1/2 4,931×10²⁷
E=2,465×10²⁷

The kinetic energy of the ejected debris is 2.465×10²⁷ (“High 6-A” Multi-Continent level). Yori and Yeva are in the church at that moment, and were at the epicenter of the explosion and should be scaled to at least this level, so the murder drones and solver administrators should be scaled to this level in terms of resistance and raw physical power, as they are capable of killing each other.
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Neat calc but when was the other debunked iv only seen a counter calc that was debunked by the first comment

Also will you do the implotion uzi tanked? I mean this The one uzi tanked
 
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Camerontaylor07 said:
Neat calc but when was the other debunked iv only seen a counter calc that was debunked by the first comment

Also will you do the implotion uzi tanked? I mean this The one uzi tanked
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Regarding the refutation of the first calculation, I was referring to this point: https://vsbattles.com/threads/murder-drones-the-5-a-downgrade-accepted.173364/


And the second calculation written by Psychomaster is still valid.
If you look at the very bottom of the calculation you just sent me, you’ll see that he has corrected his previous calculation.
It just needs to be verified by another member of the calculation group, and their durability will be upgraded to planet level.
 
Question: Does anyone know why N's combat speed isn't scaled to the pod's speed?

And why their evasion speed too, given that the drones in episode 3 evaded it during the crash?
 
Kirua29 said:
Regarding the refutation of the first calculation, I was referring to this point: https://vsbattles.com/threads/murder-drones-the-5-a-downgrade-accepted.173364/


And the second calculation written by Psychomaster is still valid.
If you look at the very bottom of the calculation you just sent me, you’ll see that he has corrected his previous calculation.
It just needs to be verified by another member of the calculation group, and their durability will be upgraded to planet level.
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yeah my bad i was misrembering details looking bacl you are correct
 
Kirua29 said:
Question: Does anyone know why N's combat speed isn't scaled to the pod's speed?

And why their evasion speed too, given that the drones in episode 3 evaded it during the crash?
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Not entirley sure but a common argument is saying the pod wasnt going at full speed and its auto pilot the seccond is blatantly false and i dont see evidence for the first personally but i could be missing something
 
Camerontaylor07 said:
Not entirley sure but a common argument is saying the pod wasnt going at full speed and its auto pilot the seccond is blatantly false and i dont see evidence for the first personally but i could be missing something
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No, that's not it, since the calculation is validated on vsbw.

But just in case, even if it's not useful, I'm going to debunk these two “arguments.”

1: N himself says in episode 1 that the pods are like missiles and that he never learned how to land them. On top of that, in the pod crash in episode 1, we see that the pod deployed its docking clamps and crashed straight down, so if the pod breaks, it's not because it doesn't know how to deploy the clamps or stabilize itself. That leaves only one option: it doesn't know how to slow down or brake, so it was necessarily traveling at full speed, and therefore, we can apply the same logic to J in episode 3.

2: And the autopilot argument is stupid. It's like saying the pod just teleports. These are claims that need to be proven by powerscaling, but not only are they unprovable, but we can clearly see that it's N who is piloting in episode 8.

There you go. Maybe this will be useful for a debate
 
Kirua29 said:
Regarding the refutation of the first calculation, I was referring to this point: https://vsbattles.com/threads/murder-drones-the-5-a-downgrade-accepted.173364/


And the second calculation written by Psychomaster is still valid.
If you look at the very bottom of the calculation you just sent me, you’ll see that he has corrected his previous calculation.
It just needs to be verified by another member of the calculation group, and their durability will be upgraded to planet level.
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I still didn't understand why they didn't accepted re calculation
Ke looks vaild
 
Kirua29 said:
No, that's not it, since the calculation is validated on vsbw.

But just in case, even if it's not useful, I'm going to debunk these two “arguments.”

1: N himself says in episode 1 that the pods are like missiles and that he never learned how to land them. On top of that, in the pod crash in episode 1, we see that the pod deployed its docking clamps and crashed straight down, so if the pod breaks, it's not because it doesn't know how to deploy the clamps or stabilize itself. That leaves only one option: it doesn't know how to slow down or brake, so it was necessarily traveling at full speed, and therefore, we can apply the same logic to J in episode 3.

2: And the autopilot argument is stupid. It's like saying the pod just teleports. These are claims that need to be proven by powerscaling, but not only are they unprovable, but we can clearly see that it's N who is piloting in episode 8.

There you go. Maybe this will be useful for a debate
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Yeah I agree
 
I dont go here properly but can we put the Disassembly Drone pictures before the Worker Drone pics on some of the pages? They look way better, are full images and are the standard design of the characters
 
Jinx666 said:
I dont go here properly but can we put the Disassembly Drone pictures before the Worker Drone pics on some of the pages? They look way better, are full images and are the standard design of the characters
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I agree, but it's not really our priority right now. Given that 90% of the characters are marked as unknown, the aesthetic aspect can wait.
 
You dont really need CRTs to shift the position of images on a page tbh. But eh, i just think its better givenn Murder Drones are popular pages on this wiki
 
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Serial Designation V

Serial Designation V-X00100000, or simply known as V, is the tritagonist of Murder Drones. V is a former Worker Drone, converted by Cyn into a Disassembly Drone and sent to Copper 9 to destroy runaway AI as Worker Drones. Her colleague and past love interest N teams up with Uzi who wants to...
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"At least 6C" did it happened again or what
 
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Murder Drones CRT: hax addition

1) adding time stop: in past discussion thread, it was agreed that Cyn have only time manipulation via slowing down time in first scene. However, As we can see, the snowflakes do seem to still be moving: but after 25 seconds, we can see that all the snowflakes have stopped, while Uzi continues...
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