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Sukuna vs Douma

Thermor said:
I think I should unequalize speed. Sukuna's reaction speed being 15000x faster than Douma is stompish. Douma's speed is still slower (sub rel) than Sukuna's rel but still be a closer match.
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It's not like Sukuna can blitz. It's specifically with that one move which he can blitz Douma. But if u wanna unequalize speed go ahead. It doesn't matter since Douma is 2.58% SoL, and Sukuna's reactions are 12.9% SoL. Meaning his reactions are 5x faster than Douma can move, and with someone that fast, he's just going to erase them with WCS which will still blitz and erase Douma. It doesn't matter much either way. Well, I can think of some ways it matters depending on the arguments people bring up, but I'll see.
 
Robo432343 said:
Why does Doma scale physically to a creation feat
last time i checked ds doesn't have a UES
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it's not a creation feat. he scales above gyutaro's final attack. the verse has an NPES so BDAs scale to each other. BDAs have shown relativity to the demon's physicality so their physical attacks scale to the output of their techniques. it doesnt need a UES for that, and i dont understand why it has to be brought up in a vs match
 
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LaserPrecision said:
It's not like Sukuna can blitz. It's specifically with that one move which he can blitz Douma. But if u wanna unequalize speed go ahead. It doesn't matter since Douma is 2.58% SoL, and Sukuna's reactions are 12.9% SoL. Meaning his reactions are 5x faster than Douma can move, and with someone that fast, he's just going to erase them with WCS which will still blitz and erase Douma. It doesn't matter much either way. Well, I can think of some ways it matters depending on the arguments people bring up, but I'll see.
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so its worse if speed is unequal?
 
LaserPrecision said:
Uhm, no. They are lowered to the same degree as combat speed. His reaction speed is relativistic, his combat speed is only Hypersonic or whatever, and his attack speed is ftl. So his reactions and wcs would be thousands of times faster than Sukuna. Which tbf I can see why one would make that mistake.
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i see. i thought hypersonic was his travel speed while relativistic was his combat and reaction speed. kind of weird for his combat and reaction speed to be that far apart but alr ig
 
Machmatej said:
i see. i thought hypersonic was his travel speed while relativistic was his combat and reaction speed. kind of weird for his combat and reaction speed to be that far apart but alr ig
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Wankers Certain supports were planning on making his rela scaling his combat but JJK speed is a whole monster, especially right now
 
Robo432343 said:
so its worse if speed is unequal?
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Well if speed is unequal Sukuna is more likely to just immediately go for the kill yeah. Why would he let someone who's literally thousands of times faster live and play around with them? Even if Douma were weaker, Sukuna would get massacred like milliseconds after if Sukuna failed to kill him.

The only counter-argument you could bring up is "What if Sukuna throws a thin WCS instead of a thick one?" Which while possible and would result in Sukuna likely getting blitzed immediately after, I would then say it's fair to give Sukuna prior knowledge of the speed gap otherwise he would never use his win-con according to the peeps here. But I really do think if he fired a thick one against Kashimo who had a troublesome attack with the lightspeed electromagnetic wave and lightning speed lightning, then he'd absolutely do so against someone physically that god damn fast.
 
Machmatej said:
i see. i thought hypersonic was his travel speed while relativistic was his combat and reaction speed. kind of weird for his combat and reaction speed to be that far apart but alr ig
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It's not too uncommon tbf. At least not as much as some people would like to let on. Most dodging feats in fiction are one quick dodge rather than successive actions, so there's potentially a lot of verses assuming combat speed for reaction speed stuff.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Doomsday's adaptation isn't that crazy either in like 90% of versions :/
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I was talking about the most belligerent, nonsensical, overpowered RE feats, ever compiled from some random comic book continuity. Honorable mention being that Mutant who turned into a Death God.
LaserPrecision said:
Tho in this case Mahoraga actually could due to being able to adapt to any technique in-verse, with ice manip being one of them. Plus modulo is making Mahoraga kinda cracked.
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Mahoraga absolutely could adapt to Doma’s Ice. I’m talking about stuff like Mahoraga adapting to physiologies or Time Hax.
Anonymous_Learner said:
Raga can literally adapt to any and all phenomena
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Any and all phenomena present in his verse. Obvious stuff like ice and fire is a no-brainer.
Anonymous_Learner said:
Adapted to Slicing in general
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Great.
Anonymous_Learner said:
adapted to water in the anime
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This is just body control lol.
Anonymous_Learner said:
physical liquid metal
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Great. I’m not denying this.
Anonymous_Learner said:
adapted to spacial manipulation
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Great. I’m not denying this.
Anonymous_Learner said:
has adapted to literal light in modulo
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Great. Didn’t know this happened but okay.
Anonymous_Learner said:
confirmed to be able to adapt to power
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This is AP growth. I’m not denying this.
Anonymous_Learner said:
what's with this Raga downplay
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Bro wants to call it downplay when we agree on the same things.
Anonymous_Learner said:
Bro's the embodiment of this image
if-it-says-he-can-any-adapt-to-any-and-all-then-he-can-v0-p4h0080oj6eg1.jpeg
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I had to sit and think if this image was supposed to be slander or satirical because yes, that is how Mahoraga’s stuff works lol. Is this supposed to be a strawman?

I’m not saying that, given Mahoraga was thrown into the Sun and Mahoraga survived, that he wouldn’t be able to adapt. I’m saying that if Type 2 (or is it 1?) Info Hax doesn’t exist in the JJK verse, then Mahoraga ain’t ever adapting to some crony hitting him with it. Or if Mahoraga got Time Slowed, then Mahoraga ain’t adapting.

The problem is that dudes want to act like Mahoraga can adapt to any conceivable ability that isn’t in the jjk verse. There is no reason this should be controversial
 
Sukuna only got 2 things that can end the fight. Large WCS or MS+Fuga, he'd have to do either before getting frozen and shattered
 
Catbowtie said:
I was talking about the most belligerent, nonsensical, overpowered RE feats, ever compiled from some random comic book continuity. Honorable mention being that Mutant who turned into a Death God.
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Fair enough.
Catbowtie said:
Mahoraga absolutely could adapt to Doma’s Ice. I’m talking about stuff like Mahoraga adapting to physiologies or Time Hax.
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Okay, fair. Although he can to an extent adapt to physiologies. He adapted to the physiologies of Cursed Spirits by using positive energy in his extermination blades, which destabilize their existence and cause them to fall apart/explode. I assume he can adapt to physiologies so long as they are in-line with stuff he can adapt to.
 
Arkenis said:
No people outside the JJK community are just so terrified of Mahoraga they passively view him as Doomsday cuz he's a terrorist in any verse, especially this bum ass tier 8 verse.
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Genuinely saw Mahoraga among Doomsday and SCP 682 for “Who’s Adaptation is the best?” Yes, some people think Mahoraga vs SCP’s RE can be debated.
Arkenis said:
He adapted to Mathematical spatial hax and H3A balls. WTH DID YOU READ??
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It would just be Spatial Hax and High 3-A balls that Maho could adapt to 😭
 
Catbowtie said:
Edit: If you meant power = AP then that was a no brainer to anyone who seen JJK
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huh, this edit wasn't there when i replied
Catbowtie said:
Yap
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Ok fair, i didn't realize you agree with me mostly.
Yeah, no kidding Raga's adaptation doesn't become a High 1-A god with a bazillion immunities, i just remembered you saying some time ago Raga could only adapted to cursed energy based things and made my comments based on that
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
Ok fair, i didn't realize you agree with me mostly.
Yeah, no kidding Raga's adaptation doesn't become a High 1-A god with a bazillion immunities, i just remembered you saying some time ago Raga could only adapted to cursed energy based things and made my comments based on that
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Yup, nah I was wrong on that one. I’m sorry.
 
Anyways, Sukuna FRA. I don’t care to try to argue for Doma.

Besides, Doma will certainly mess around and get blitzed by the clearly telegraphed WCS, and will let Sukuna charge up Fuga if Sukuna ever goes the Domain Expansion into Fuga route.
 
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