The Long Awaited Hazbin Hotel Season 2 CRT

[DaReaperMan]

It's almost like the writers don't know you need 0.05 tons of TNT to make the crater Vox did.

You know what practically every person on this planet does tho?
If someone is STRONGER than a nuke, bullets ain't doing shit. Neither should falls. Neither should falling rubble.

Yes Yes, you're mad one of your verses had an upgrade denied in the ether time of months ago, You want me to track down said verse and downgrade it to 9-C cause muh bullets? You're talking to someone running on spite, depression, and dead memes, you can't **** me I'm already dead

 

[Tllmbrg]

You mean the power of friendship moment where after working together (With some guys who are just blatantly Angel-tier) managed to stop the explosion that was only said to be able to destroy half a town. The same scene where if said explosion went off the show would literally end cause everyone dies?
Wow, such a blatant Tier 5 feat, the Death Star wishes it could be like this.

I mean I think the main city is probably planetary if not larger in its size due to its function, so yes, I think nuking half of it should be 5-B if not higher.

 

[Tllmbrg]

The singing happens on screen, making it possible for them to do something they can't do alone (stop the bomb).

Besides, what are you talking about?

5-B is only 5-B because of the WOG statement that heaven and hell are planets.

Because without that, there's nothing to indicate that they are both planets. Again, I haven't received anything on the vsbattle wiki that says celestial bodies have a standard planetary size.

Heaven literally acts as a moon, what are you on?
Heck, if you're so huge on WoGs the feat can easily jump into tier 3, so do you want tier 3 Hazbin via singing?

 

[BoastJr]

I'm already dead

Bro you are a powerscaler. That should be obvious

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Yes Yes, you're mad one of your verses had an upgrade denied in the ether time of months ago, You want me to track down said verse and downgrade it to 9-C cause muh bullets? You're talking to someone running on spite, depression, and dead memes, you can't **** me I'm already dead

Nah, I literally just think this Tier 5 is wank, it's clear going by the show and what the writers are saying lol
Ignoring anti-feats and just scaling to the highest thing possible is how you end up with 3-C Spiderman

 

[BoastJr]

so do you want tier 3 Hazbin via singing?

make them all Tier 1 and I will put them against Woody and Honkai Supporters

They may eat Alastor alive

 

[DaReaperMan]

The singing happens on screen, making it possible for them to do something they can't do alone (stop the bomb).

Besides, what are you talking about?

5-B is only 5-B because of the WOG statement that heaven and hell are planets.

Because without that, there's nothing to indicate that they are both planets. Again, I haven't received anything on the vsbattle wiki that says celestial bodies have a standard planetary size.

I'll downgrade Woody Woodpecker Because clearly those celestial bodies don't represent the real things and are much smaller. Do you see how fast this logic falls apart, Phscc?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Nah, I literally just think this Tier 5 is wank, it's clear going by the show and what the writers are saying lol
Ignoring anti-feats and just scaling to the highest thing possible is how you end up with 3-C Spiderman

Okay but WoG ends with even higher results, so clearly your and Vivize's ideas are not the same.
Nor are any of the anti-feats you brought up something the rest of the site would actually use for other franchises.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Heaven literally acts as a moon, what are you on?

Wow? A moon? That's cool...

Then why does the calculation assume that the heaven is a planet instead of a moon?

Even if you don't realize it's a planet, the first thing that came to your mind was the Moon.

Heck, if you're so huge on WoGs the feat can easily jump into tier 3, so do you want tier 3 Hazbin via singing?

It's not me who's a fan of WOGs, it's the verse; we use WOG for various things within the verse.

And as I said, and no, I don't mind 3-A via singing.

 

[Mythic381]

Honkai Supporters

Mad cuz some random ahh guy named after star explosion phenomena managed to debunk all their stuff

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I mean I think the main city is probably planetary if not larger in its size due to its function, so yes, I think nuking half of it should be 5-B if not higher.

It's actually just the first circle of the Pride Ring.

 

[Mythic381]

Nah, I literally just think this Tier 5 is wank, it's clear going by the show and what the writers are saying lol

Technically not wank if the problem is addressed (which I've already mentioned my agreement with.)

 

[Mommyleona]

I mean I think the main city is probably planetary if not larger in its size due to its function,

no way bro

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I'll downgrade Woody Woodpecker Because clearly those celestial bodies don't represent the real things and are much smaller. Do you see how fast this logic falls apart, Phscc?

The verse takes place on Earth with a sun and moon just like our Earth. So here, the standard assumption is used because it's the same scenario as real life. Hell and heaven are different scenarios.

Besides, seriously? You went looking for a little-known verse that I support to use as an argument here?

Still threatening to downgrade? Like, seriously?

 

[BoastJr]

Mad cuz some random ahh guy named after star explosion phenomena managed to debunk all their stuff

he upgraded honkai to low 1A and then downgraded it the next day

Idk what his agenda was

 

[Tllmbrg]

It's actually just the first circle of the Pride Ring.

How does that disprove anything?
WoGs have it be the most populated area, and considering it houses most sinners, and will likely house most sinners across all ages, it needs to be planetary in scale.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Okay but WoG ends with even higher results, so clearly your and Vivize's ideas are not the same.
Nor are any of the anti-feats you brought up something the rest of the site would actually use for other franchises.

Omg do any of you realize why the universe thing is bad? IT'S METAPHORE, THEY'RE THEIR OWN SECLUDED SOCIETIES. THAT'S WHAT SHE MEANT.
Also really? This same verse was downgraded cause of 3 anti-feats.

 

[DaReaperMan]

The verse takes place on Earth with a sun and moon just like our Earth. So here, the standard assumption is used because it's the same scenario as real life. Hell and heaven are different scenarios.

Where is this stated? You're applying the highest standards to one verse, why not everything else?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

How does that disprove anything?
WoGs have it be the most populated area, and considering it houses most sinners, and will likely house most sinners across all ages, it needs to be planetary in scale.

You talking about the city that lost 16% of its population from "thousands" of deaths?

 

[DaReaperMan]

I don't blame Mav for voting then dipping lmfao

 

[Mythic381]

You talking about the city that lost 16% of its population from "thousands" of deaths?

Same guy did mention billions before, I don't think the numbering needs to be questioned much if we know there's an overpopulation anyways.

 

[Tllmbrg]

You talking about the city that lost 16% of its population from "thousands" of deaths?

It's a common standard to just ignore these kind of figures for other verses, otherwise something like the Imperium in Warhammer has comically low amount of troops for the scale of their empire.
Plus this doesn't make sense with any reasonable figure you'd give the city for its population so.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Anyways I'm just gonna ping a few staff so this thread can actually go somewhere.
@Oblivion_Of_The_Endless @Vietthai96 @LephyrTheRevanchist

 

[BoastJr]

The verse takes place on Earth with a sun and moon just like our Earth. So here, the standard assumption is used because it's the same scenario as real life. Hell and heaven are different scenarios.

Besides, seriously? You went looking for a little-known verse that I support to use as an argument here?

Still threatening to downgrade? Like, seriously?

Just for funsies

If we go with the population density like in Manila (43,000 people per Km^2) and (100,000,000,000 souls)

We get an area of around 2.3 million KM^2 which is slightly bigger then Saudi Arabia

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Where is this stated? You're applying the highest standards to one verse, why not everything else?

It's not high standard.

Scenarios similar to our world, with an Earth, Moon, and Sun, are assumed to be standard.

But isn't HH literally that the case? Hell isn't Earth, Heaven isn't the Moon.

Of course, the Earth, Moon, and Sun in HH will obviously be assumed to be the same size as in real life because it's a scenario similar to real life.

But in the case of Hell and Heaven, we're literally talking about another supernatural dimension with supernatural celestial bodies. Like, why should we assume it's similar?

And especially why does it have to be Earth? Planetary size.

As Tllmbrg said, Heaven looks like a moon, so why don't we simply assume Heaven is a moon instead of a planet?

 

[Mythic381]

I've seen enough, ping Ultima.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

It's a common standard to just ignore these kind of figures for other verses, otherwise something like the Imperium in Warhammer has comically low amount of troops for the scale of their empire.
Plus this doesn't make sense with any reasonable figure you'd give the city for its population so.

It's also a common standard to not ignore WoG unless the writers say something like "Only the show is canon."
Especially when said WoG explains something that by all means should be an outlier.

Also apparently the Overlords who have total control over Pentagram City also only have 1 million souls total, out of the 100 billion that apparently live inside the city.
Also the thousands stuff is wayyyy more consistent when you take into account Lute's kill count, Vaggie's kill count, and so on.

Actually where does the most populated thing come from, it's WoG right lol

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's not high standard.

Scenarios similar to our world, with an Earth, Moon, and Sun, are assumed to be standard.

But isn't HH literally that the case? Hell isn't Earth, Heaven isn't the Moon.

Of course, the Earth, Moon, and Sun in HH will obviously be assumed to be the same size as in real life because it's a scenario similar to real life.

But in the case of Hell and Heaven, we're literally talking about another supernatural dimension with supernatural celestial bodies. Like, why should we assume it's similar?

And especially why does it have to be Earth? Planetary size.

As Tllmbrg said, Heaven looks like a moon, so why don't we simply assume Heaven is a moon instead of a planet?

100. Billion. We have less than 10% of that on our planet right now and multiple areas are considered to be grossly overpopulated lol

 

[Tllmbrg]

It's also a common standard to not ignore WoG unless the writers say something like "Only the show is canon."
Especially when said WoG explains something that by all means should be an outlier.

Also apparently the Overlords who have total control over Pentagram City also only have 1 million souls total, out of the 100 billion that apparently live inside the city.
Also the thousands stuff is wayyyy more consistent when you take into account Lute's kill count, Vaggie's kill count, and so on.

Actually where does the most populated thing come from, it's WoG right lol

Yah almost like using WoGs is not reliable man?????
If we don't use WoG the city should still be realistically way larger, since in no world is the population spread having the capital city as way lower population wise then the rest of the ring.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Yah almost like using WoGs is not reliable man?????

You haven't at all explained WHY it's not reliable. Using the WoG here would LITERALLY help explain plot holes.
Hazbin Hotel is a verse that runs on its WoG, it started off as a ******* Indie Show.

If we don't use WoG the city should still be realistically way larger, since in no world is the population spread having the capital city as way lower population wise then the rest of the ring.

Should be this, should be that. The show contradicts you, several times.
Also said ring is huge, it's wayyy bigger than the city at its middle.

 

[Da3ggman]

I would argue against using the population statements and ignoring the several anti-feats in the room, but I support Baki so I can't really say anything.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Anyways I think neither side will really back off, so I'll just wait on other staff to get down here and cast their vote to see what the CRT's results will be.

 

[Mommyleona]

100. Billion. We have less than 10% of that on our planet right now and multiple areas are considered to be grossly overpopulated lol

overpopulation is a lie

 

[DarkLock92]

overpopulation is a lie

Is it? No Hell inhabitants denies it. In fact, Vox even uses it as an argument as to why they should invade Heaven:

They say Hell's too populated
That's why they exterminate

We got the numbers
We got the thunder!
Let's annex their real estate!

Even Charlie, who lives in Hell, says that overpopulation is a problem, and she's aware that Heaven is doing this because they feel threatened by Hell's numbers:

But Lilith thrived, empowering demonkind with her voice and songs. And as the numbers of Hell grew, so did its power. Threatened by this, Heaven made a truly heartless decision. That every year, they would send down an army, an Extermination, to ensure Hell and its sinners could never rise against them.

NO! Our shared problem of overpopulation in Hell!

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Overpopulation is a lie by Vivzie and HH powerscalers to wаnk the verse

 

[Mommyleona]

Is it? No Hell inhabitants denies it. In fact, Vox even uses it as an argument as to why they should invade Heaven:

Even Charlie, who lives in Hell, says that overpopulation is a problem, and she's aware that Heaven is doing this because they feel threatened by Hell's numbers:

i meant irl bro

 

[DaReaperMan]

Overpopulation is a lie by Vivzie and HH powerscalers to wаnk the verse

And by Vox and Charlie, of course.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

And by Vox and Charlie, of course.

Bullet victims trying to hype up their feats be like:

 

[DarkLock92]

i meant irl bro

Lmao

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I think I'm with tllm and OP here.