[0-7-0] Unwavering Beliefs - Hoshimi Miyabi (ZZZ) vs Gabriel (ULTRAKILL)

[Jerry59]

what kind of random words did I just slap onto the title again

• Speed Equalized
• Both are 7-C and are 5 meters apart
• The fight takes place here

Art by @Ganet_p​	Art by AliveWake4476​
​	@Sooshirohl, @Delusionaltx2, @Doggo, @AThe1412, @AyOgUyS, @Jackof_noTrades068, @Jerry59​

Battle Theme:

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Gotta get these Deviantart creators to draw one punch man season 3

following

 

[Delusionaltx2]

So from the looks of things

Miyabi

• + I think with enhanced senses and I.A the acrobatics from gabriels end shouldn't be too much of an issue
• + May or may not have vital view which would be a massive benefit (although this is prob up to you)
• + Damage reduction and damage boost can help mitigate the AP gap a bit
• <= Possible martial arts knowledge, although I'm not sure how good she is compared to other characters within ZZZ
• = Has a rage amp (I think)
• - Severly outmusled in LS (42,000 vs >1313)
• - 1.29x weaker
• - Her opponents resistance to ice and fire are a bit higher than what she can pull (going by profiles at least)

Gabriel

• + Severely outmuscles (42,000 metric tons vs >1313 metric tons)
• + Homing attacks are a glaring advantage
• + 1.29x stronger in AP
• + Better ranged options (The heat from tailless is basically useless while sword spam seems useful)
• + His resistance to cold and heat is higher than what she can do
• >= Should be just as if not more skilled due to being at least somewhat on par with V1
• = Has a rage amp
• - The enhanced senses and I.A counters his superior acrobatics
• - Vital view makes landing any non-homing attack difficult
• - The damage boost and damage reduction from his opponent would probably cancel out the ap gap

I think Gabriel should take this more than not. He has a massive LS advantage and a slight Ap advantage. Miyabi doesn't seem to have a concrete way to deal with him spamming homing attacks, and he also seems to have the range advantage as well. He can also surround himself with several swords in close range while simultaneously attacking, which, when considering the LS advantage, would mean these swords are basically impossible to block and considering the fact her attacks outside of tailless seem to only have extended melee range, she's kinda forced to approach him and that puts her at a disadvantage

Camera victim FRA

 

[Jerry59]

Thinking I’ll hold off on the votes till other ZZZ supporters actually come.

 

[Sooshirohl]

been a bit busy, my bad. i'll get a response out for this soon when i get the chance

 

[Sooshirohl]

alright so as already stated, gabriel does hold the AP advantage here (upscaling from 13.85 KT vs. miyabi's 10.68 KT). idk how much gabriel upscales from his value but miyabi has various ways of boosting her damage so i don't think the AP gap should be too big of an issue given how small it is. the LS gap is kind of hard to ignore though, 34x is a pretty ludicrous gap and it's gonna be a pretty big issue for miyabi.

gabriel resisting both heat and cold is also a pretty big issue as it means tailless' effects aren't really gonna work, so she's sort of just going to have to rely on brute forcing her way to a W, which given the LS disparity is probably going to be hard

Miyabi doesn't seem to have a concrete way to deal with him spamming homing attacks, and he also seems to have the range advantage as well.

how fast are the homing attacks? given equalized speed i don't really see why miyabi would have much trouble either avoiding or just deflecting them. also, gabriel afaik doesn't have the range advantage, miyabi does. her range is hundreds of meters with tailless, and she can just fire off ranged attacks from tailless to deal with gabriel's own ranged attacks

He can also surround himself with several swords in close range while simultaneously attacking, which, when considering the LS advantage, would mean these swords are basically impossible to block

miyabi wouldn't necessarily need to engage in close quarters given she can also use ranged attacks with tailless, and she would probably hesitate to do so anyways if she saw him surround himself with a bunch of swords. i do agree that the LS disparity is a huge issue but i'd need to know whether or not it's something he'd leverage in-character. if not miyabi could probably just spam ranged attacks from a distance to keep herself from getting LS crushed

i also don't know if he has any answers to miyabi's space cutting attack, so i assume if she managed to land it it'd just one shot him. obviously a lot easier said than done given miyabi needs to charge up the attack and i assume gabriel wouldn't just stand still to facetank it, but given his profile does say he's arrogant and tends to underestimate opponents, i guess i wouldn't put it entirely out of the realm of possibility

 

[Jerry59]

Bump? Guess I’ll have to say something to keep this going.

how fast are the homing attacks? given equalized speed i don't really see why miyabi would have much trouble either avoiding or just deflecting them.

Just comparable to his base speed, but he can throw homing attack(s) while fighting by himself at the same time and that’s an actual problem, he's really versatile.

also, gabriel afaik doesn't have the range advantage, miyabi does. her range is hundreds of meters with tailless, and she can just fire off ranged attacks from tailless to deal with gabriel's own ranged attacks

miyabi wouldn't necessarily need to engage in close quarters given she can also use ranged attacks with tailless, and she would probably hesitate to do so anyways if she saw him surround himself with a bunch of swords.

I suppose yeah, but Gabriel wouldn’t just let her widen the distance enough to start sniping him from hundreds of meters away. In fact he’s already fought the kind of opponent who rely on range spam, and his dashes are one of the things that let him catch up easily. Gabe can also summon swords around her, it’s not really that hard to avoid especially for someone as acrobatic as Miyabi, but it does help make anything else he’s gonna throw at her much more annoying.

i do agree that the LS disparity is a huge issue but i'd need to know whether or not it's something he'd leverage in-character. if not miyabi could probably just spam ranged attacks from a distance to keep herself from getting LS crushed

He’s not the type to use grabs or anything LS-related in battles, just strikes and the like (which also applies to uh almost everyone else in Ultrakill). Although specifically for the spinning swords Gabe definitely uses them in fights, a lot actually.

i also don't know if he has any answers to miyabi's space cutting attack, so i assume if she managed to land it it'd just one shot him. obviously a lot easier said than done given miyabi needs to charge up the attack and i assume gabriel wouldn't just stand still to facetank it, but given his profile does say he's arrogant and tends to underestimate opponents, i guess i wouldn't put it entirely out of the realm of possibility

Aye Gabe is arrogant and that makes him taunt his foes mid-fight, but he doesn’t stand still for long (and he still takes his job seriously, i.e clearing things out quickly like that one time he went straight for the kill when meeting Minos).

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

following cuz of ZZZ related thread, and following cuz Gabriel Ultrakill

 

[Jerry59]

following cuz of ZZZ related thread, and following cuz Gabriel Ultrakill

vro your pfp and banner have gotten even wilder

 

[AThe1412]

vro your pfp and banner have gotten even wilder

You know what they say, incest is winc-

 

[Delusionaltx2]

how fast are the homing attacks?

Comparable to his normal attack speed

given equalized speed i don't really see why miyabi would have much trouble either avoiding

The swords would curve towards her

or just deflecting them.

She probably could at farther ranges but due to the LS difference she would get ragdolled upon doing so at close range

also, gabriel afaik doesn't have the range advantage, miyabi does. her range is hundreds of meters with tailless, and she can just fire off ranged attacks from tailless to deal with gabriel's own ranged attacks

gabriels resistance to heat kinda makes tailless alot less of a factor than it otherwise would be

edit: also ur link is broken

miyabi wouldn't necessarily need to engage in close quarters given she can also use ranged attacks with tailless,

Most if not I think almost all the energy from fire comes from heat. If Gabriel resists her tempretures the remaining energy would probably just tickle him.

At worst he just kinda blocks them all

and she would probably hesitate to do so anyways if she saw him surround himself with a bunch of swords. i do agree that the LS disparity is a huge issue but i'd need to know whether or not it's something he'd leverage in-character.

he would be doing it everytime he tries to overpower her

like if the two run at each other and get into this position for example

Gabriel would just fling her away due to monstrous LS gap

if not miyabi could probably just spam ranged attacks from a distance

Gabriel has planetary range with teleportation so he could just teleport back to optimal range if it really came to that

to keep herself from getting LS crushed

Gabriel dosen't LS crush in character, the LS is mainly going to be used to outmuscle her everytime she tries to clash with him

i also don't know if he has any answers to miyabi's space cutting attack, so i assume if she managed to land it it'd just one shot him.

Does the space cutting attack work like WCS where it cuts space everytime its used? From the description on her profile it just looks like its used for NPI

obviously a lot easier said than done given miyabi needs to charge up the attack and i assume gabriel wouldn't just stand still to facetank it,

No he absolutely wouldn't stand still since he typically flys all over the place in game

granted he isn't untouchable but if he sees her charging an attack he's probably going to try and dodge it

but given his profile does say he's arrogant and tends to underestimate opponents, i guess i wouldn't put it entirely out of the realm of possibility

ehhh he's not THAT arrogant

he mainly just taunts his opponents mid fight at times

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

vro your pfp and banner have gotten even wilder

gotta express my fav ship

 

[AThe1412]

The arena is the top of the Temen-ni-gru which definitely doesn't reach anywhere near hundreds of meters in diameter. Miyabi would have to jump off if she wants to gain distance at which point Gabriel would have the mobility advantage with flight.

(Also, don't know if this is intentional but Vital View is still on her and other characters' profiles as abilities despite no longer being in the speed section)

 

[Delusionaltx2]

(Also, don't know if this is intentional but Vital View is still on her and other characters' profiles as abilities despite no longer being in the speed section)

this is a possibly ability tho so i think its up to jerry to decide if this is usable

 

[Sooshirohl]

(Also, don't know if this is intentional but Vital View is still on her and other characters' profiles as abilities despite no longer being in the speed section)

uhhh they shouldn't be on most agent's profiles anymore, that's what we made the recent CRT for. i guess the person who went through the profiles took them out from the speed sections but forgot to remove them from the ability sections

i'll go and fix that later when i get the chance, she shouldn't have it. i'll type a response out later too

 

[ItzLivyx]

i guess the person who went through the profiles took them out from the speed sections but forgot to remove them from the ability sections

I forgor sorry

 

[Sooshirohl]

I forgor sorry

you're good lol, no worries

 

[ItzLivyx]

i'll go and fix that later when i get the chance, she shouldn't have it.

Quick update: I've gone and removed it myself from everyone unworthy of possessing such bizarre and unjust multiplier, so the profiles should be good now

So continue the discussion, find ways to give Miyambi a W here.. for the comunity,,,,,!!

 

[Sooshirohl]

He’s not the type to use grabs or anything LS-related in battles, just strikes and the like (which also applies to uh almost everyone else in Ultrakill). Although specifically for the spinning swords Gabe definitely uses them in fights, a lot actually.

makes sense. the constant swords surrounding him is probably gonna make attacking him head on annoying then, so miyabi's likely gonna have to rely on her ranged attacks from tailless to get damage in

The swords would curve towards her

i'ma be honest the video makes it kind of hard to see what's happening but i don't think it'd be too hard for miyabi to dodge/react to regardless. not that it's the exact same but miyabi can fight ethereals like nineveh who can also spam curved/homing attacks alongside a bunch of various other danmaku, so it's not something she'd be going completely blind into.

She probably could at farther ranges but due to the LS difference she would get ragdolled upon doing so at close range

fair enough, but i think she'll willingly choose to keep her distance if she A. realizes she's outmuscled and B. sees gabriel constantly protecting himself with floating swords, which he seems to do fairly often according to jerry

gabriels resistance to heat kinda makes tailless alot less of a factor than it otherwise would be

can't argue with that but it's moreso just the fact that miyabi can at least fight from ranged, she doesn't need to force herself to engage in CQC. also it's not suuuuper major but miyabi does have minor resistance neg on top of still having ways to boost her damage, so her attacks are at least going to be doing something and not just bouncing off

edit: also ur link is broken

it was just showing how miyabi can use tailless for ranged attacks, try this link instead

Most if not I think almost all the energy from fire comes from heat. If Gabriel resists her tempretures the remaining energy would probably just tickle him.

At worst he just kinda blocks them all

see my point about the resistance neg + damage boost

he would be doing it everytime he tries to overpower her

like if the two run at each other and get into this position for example

Gabriel would just fling her away due to monstrous LS gap

fair enough, but again she doesn't need to engage in CQC and will probably avoid it if she knows she's outmuscled + sees him constantly spamming floating swords to protect himself like i said earlier

Gabriel has planetary range with teleportation so he could just teleport back to optimal range if it really came to that

fair i guess. miyabi should be nimble enough to gain distance if necessary though, and idk if gabriel would just instantly teleport in front of her to start a CQC fight seeing as it seems like he's primarily a ranged fighter. also miyabi's fought opponents who can teleport so it's also something that shouldn't trip her up too much

Does the space cutting attack work like WCS where it cuts space everytime its used? From the description on her profile it just looks like its used for NPI

it's a charged attack that she fires off. it's a massive slash that she shoots forward and it basically just travels forward and cuts anything that it comes into contact with. her regular attacks don't have the space cutting property to it, it's just this variation where she has to charge it up

No he absolutely wouldn't stand still since he typically flys all over the place in game

granted he isn't untouchable but if he sees her charging an attack he's probably going to try and dodge it

yeah that's fair. flight shouldn't be too big of an issue though considering she can fight against flying opponents and she's acrobatic enough to jump hundreds of feet into the air anyways

Aye Gabe is arrogant and that makes him taunt his foes mid-fight, but he doesn’t stand still for long (and he still takes his job seriously, i.e clearing things out quickly like that one time he went straight for the kill when meeting Minos).

ehhh he's not THAT arrogant

he mainly just taunts his opponents mid fight at times

fair enough. i do think the space cutting attack kinda just kills him if it lands but i think it's going to be hard to land it against an opponent as nimble as gabriel is, and obviously he isn't going to give miyabi time to charge it up either so i think she'll either have to try and find an opening to land it if possible or win without it

 

[Jerry59]

fair i guess. miyabi should be nimble enough to gain distance if necessary though, and idk if gabriel would just instantly teleport in front of her to start a CQC fight seeing as it seems like he's primarily a ranged fighter. also miyabi's fought opponents who can teleport so it's also something that shouldn't trip her up too much

He’s both, you can look at his fights but essentially he uses ranged and melee attacks simultaneously, leans more toward the latter actually. Not sure about him using teleportation though, unless she’s like, kilometers away, since he doesn’t actually use it in combat. It’s often mistaken for his quick dashes that create afterimages.

Good for Miyabi that she can fight teleporters and will gain distance if needed but again, Gabe can catch up and pressure an opponent whose whole strat is keeping range and shooting (here's a good though probably seizure-inducing example of its mobility if you don’t want to read through its pfp)

yeah that's fair. flight shouldn't be too big of an issue though considering she can fight against flying opponents and she's acrobatic enough to jump hundreds of feet into the air anyways

Obviously not a big issue it’s still an issue, especially when she’s fighting someone who’s comparable to her in overall mobility and has a few other advantages.

 

[Sooshirohl]

He’s both, you can look at his fights but essentially he uses ranged and melee attacks simultaneously, leans more toward the latter actually. Not sure about him using teleportation though, unless she’s like, kilometers away, since he doesn’t actually use it in combat. It’s often mistaken for his quick dashes that create afterimages.

yeah from the looks of it it the teleportation didn't really seem combat applicable, so i don't think it'll be a big deal for her since i'm assuming he wouldn't use it. she can't use tailless from that far so i don't think she'd even go that far anyways

Good for Miyabi that she can fight teleporters and will gain distance if needed but again, Gabe can catch up and pressure an opponent whose whole strat is keeping range and shooting (here's a good though probably seizure-inducing example of its mobility if you don’t want to read through its pfp)

hmm. i think miyabi's only real chance of winning then is landing an OHKO with her spatial attack, which again considering how mobile gabriel is is going to be a lot easier said than done. i don't think she can play keepaway and spam ranged attacks forever, especially given gabriel's superior stamina, and considering that 1. she's going into the fight weaker and will likely have to take time to ramp up to match gabriel and 2. gabriel should basically resist tailless' abilities entirely, it's gonna take way longer for her to deal any meaningful damage to gabriel than vice versa.

gabriel does seem like the more likely winner here. i think he just keeps the pressure on until he gets an opening and proceeds to crush her with his far superior LS. miyabi's one wincon i think is just too unreliable for her to land against an opponent as mobile as gabriel is and he's also not gonna give her any time to charge it up anyways. i think gabriel just eventually wins the battle of attrition

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

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what ze current Args for both

 

[Jerry59]

what ze current Args for both

They’re both almost equally agile and have cool swords and whatever, but Gabe edges out a bit (higher LS, flight and suchlike)

I dunno, you can quickly read through all of them yourself, they’re not that long really.

 

[Sooshirohl]

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what ze current Args for both

miyabi's main wincon would probably be just trying to land a spatial cut to oneshot gabriel. meanwhile gabriel's wincon would be just getting in close and crushing her with his overwhelmingly superior LS

gabriel seems like the more likely winner like i said in my other comment, miyabi's spatial attack requires charge time which gabriel realistically wouldn't give her, and he can keep the pressure on with a mix of ranged and melee attacks to eventually win out in a prolonged battle of attrition with his superior stamina

 

[Delusionaltx2]

For the love of-

@Jerry59 vital view or naw (it's a possible ability so we gotta get that sorted out first)

 

[Sooshirohl]

For the love of-

@Jerry59 vital view or naw (it's a possible ability so we gotta get that sorted out first)

miyabi doesn't have access to it, it was promptly removed from her page following a recent CRT. it was in her abilities section because it was accidentally left there but it's been properly taken out

 

[Delusionaltx2]

i'ma be honest the video makes it kind of hard to see what's happening but i don't think it'd be too hard for miyabi to dodge/react to regardless. not that it's the exact same but miyabi can fight ethereals like nineveh who can also spam curved/homing attacks alongside a bunch of various other danmaku, so it's not something she'd be going completely blind into.

Noted

fair enough, but i think she'll willingly choose to keep her distance if she A. realizes she's outmuscled and B. sees gabriel constantly protecting himself with floating swords, which he seems to do fairly often according to jerry

The issue with this is that the heat from tailess is kinda resisted so the damage would be extremely small

can't argue with that but it's moreso just the fact that miyabi can at least fight from ranged, she doesn't need to force herself to engage in CQC. also it's not suuuuper major but miyabi does have minor resistance neg on top of still having ways to boost her damage, so her attacks are at least going to be doing something and not just bouncing off

You said it's minor so I gotta ask potent is the resistance neg? Based on the profile it looks like gabriel would be effected by around 6% of her heat each attack

it was just showing how miyabi can use tailless for ranged attacks, try this link instead


see my point about the resistance neg + damage boost

Now damage boost is fair since the upscale isn't that big but once again how potent is the resistance neg?

fair enough, but again she doesn't need to engage in CQC and will probably avoid it if she knows she's outmuscled + sees him constantly spamming floating swords to protect himself like i said earlier

If she tries to range spam then he just teleports

fair i guess. miyabi should be nimble enough to gain distance if necessary though,

Considering the fact gabriel can at least keep up with V1 I'd argue he's just as nimble as her

and idk if gabriel would just instantly teleport in front of her to start a CQC fight seeing as it seems like he's primarily a ranged fighter.

Gabriel typically diviates between close and long range attacks

One moment you'll see him lunge at you multiple times from above, the next he's just throwing swords at you

also miyabi's fought opponents who can teleport so it's also something that shouldn't trip her up too much

Her main wincon from what I'm getting seems to be distance no? How would she be able to leverage prior experience to get around the teleportation?

it's a charged attack that she fires off. it's a massive slash that she shoots forward and it basically just travels forward and cuts anything that it comes into contact with. her regular attacks don't have the space cutting property to it, it's just this variation where she has to charge it up

While I do agree this would probably decimate gabriel if it hit, she seems to take a fat six seconds to use this

Gabriela taunts typically last like 2-3 iirc, I dont think she'll be able to get this off unless she has a faster version of it

yeah that's fair. flight shouldn't be too big of an issue though considering she can fight against flying opponents and she's acrobatic enough to jump hundreds of feet into the air anyways

Fair

fair enough. i do think the space cutting attack kinda just kills him if it lands but i think it's going to be hard to land it against an opponent as nimble as gabriel is, and obviously he isn't going to give miyabi time to charge it up either so i think she'll either have to try and find an opening to land it if possible or win without it

I agree with this

 

[Jerry59]

If she tries to range spam then he just teleports

You see that Sooshirohl. Another fella who thought Gabe’s teleportation was actually combat applicable.

meanwhile gabriel's wincon would be just getting in close and crushing her with his overwhelmingly superior LS

(He won’t do the LS crush, compressing her and all that lol, unless you didn’t mean it literally).
Also just clearing things up in case. Given how limited Gabe’s LS options actually are here, Miyabi can still clashing swords with and parry Gabe's attacks, sort of, with more decisive strikes, where higher LS doesn’t really matter. She also has more range/AoE in actual melee combat, which balances out Gabe’s explosive thrown weapons and summoned swords.

And I guess I can count the votes now.

 

[Sooshirohl]

(He won’t do the LS crush, compressing her and all that lol, unless you didn’t mean it literally).
Also just clearing things up in case. Given how limited Gabe’s LS options actually are here, Miyabi can still clashing swords with and parry Gabe's attacks, sort of, with more decisive strikes, where higher LS doesn’t really matter. She also has more range/AoE in actual melee combat, which balances out Gabe’s explosive thrown weapons and summoned swords.

i didn't mean literally yeah, but the LS disparity still helps gabe a lot in CQC, and i still think his superior stamina would just help him eventually wear miyabi down in a prolonged battle if it came down to it. the fact that he still resists basically all of tailless' effects also helps a lot, it means miyabi would have a lot harder of a time dealing meaningful damage to him

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Jerry59]

Buhmp

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Doggo]

Miyabi FRA?

Spatial slash seems more deadly than LS

 

[Sooshirohl]

Miyabi FRA?

Spatial slash seems more deadly than LS

ehhh, i think the issue with miyabi's spatial slash is just that it takes too long to charge, and considering how mobile gabriel is i doubt he'd just stand there and give her the opportunity to charge it without simply interrupting her or dodging

 

[Doggo]

Switching to Gabriel then

 

[AThe1412]

That fish guy from PRESSURE FRA.

 

[AyOgUyS]

voting Gabriel FRA via slight AP advantage, far higher LS, Superior stamina, etc