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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

I don't know if this can be upgraded.
The source of spirits is either a feeling or a rumor (The source of spirits is usually mentioned as rumors and legends.).
“The power of a spirit originates from a current rumor or feeling. In other words, that rumor or feeling shapes their source. That is why supplying you with magic directly won’t alter your condition.”

I tried sending Sheila some magic, but she showed no signs of recovery.

That was to be expected though, since rewinding time had also been ineffective. With her source in this state, even reincarnation would be ineffective.

“Another spirit may be able to lend you their power.”

“You mean I can share my magic with Lay’s mom?” Misa asked.

“Yes. But it won’t work with regular magic. Even if a half spirit tried to send magic as one normally would, the result wouldn’t differ from my own.”

“Then what can I do...?”

“Your source is shaped by a rumor or legend. That means that rumor or legend has taken on a kind of power within you that gets converted into your source. If I link your source to Sheila’s, you may be able to send your power to her before it undergoes that conversion, helping her recover to some extent.”
Feeling is a more abstract aspect than memory (Memory is also an abstract aspect).
Sasha reeled back, hugging herself. “Th-There’s magic that can do that?!” “No. Memories lost in reincarnation cannot be retrieved even with Eviy. And since feelings are even more abstract than memories, there are no spells that could assist us in retrieving feelings either.”
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Therefore, the source of the spirit should probably have a 1-layer abstraction.
 
What do we do with this now?

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A small addition to Anos and Misha (Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha)

Anos Voldigoad Afterimage Creation: Anos's speed was so fast that it created an afterimage, making others think that Anos had cloned himself. Forcefield Creation: Anos has an anti-magic field that is always active around him. Animal Manipulation: allows the user to summon and command dragons...
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Bro got nuked to oblivion.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
I previously opened a thread about Venuzdonoa in order to upgrade it to Low 1-A, but the thread was closed without any reason. I want to know why this forum does not consider this sword to be at that level despite the evidence presented in the work.

It is stated in the series that the sword is capable of destroying anything, whether eternal, infinite, or absolute. It can even destroy absolute nothingness and repeat the process, and each time it destroys nothingness, what remains is a more perfect form of nothingness than before yet it continues to destroy it endlessly.

The main and most important reason I say this is that this sword can destroy anything related to numbers and mathematics entirely. In short, mathematics is composed of numbers and built upon numbers in general, which makes this sword capable of destroying all possible mathematical structures, regardless of what they are. This directly corresponds to the Low 1-A level, and I do not know how anyone could deny this.

At the very least, Anos Voldigoad should be upgraded to Low 1-A via Venuzdonoa.

Evidence ↓
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Anos is boundless with Irrelevant speed via wank anyone who says otherwise should cry about it
 
wwereymy235 said:
Would lacking logic be a new NEP aspect?
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Graham's revision

This idea suddenly came to me thanks to a simple comment. Since Logic Manipulation is effectively an ability now, I want to propose a new aspect of Non-Existence to Graham's NEP, Logic, since Graham's true physiology is beyond/unbound from logic/reason. And therefore, General Immunity to Logic...
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Dereck03 said:
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Graham's revision

This idea suddenly came to me thanks to a simple comment. Since Logic Manipulation is effectively an ability now, I want to propose a new aspect of Non-Existence to Graham's NEP, Logic, since Graham's true physiology is beyond/unbound from logic/reason. And therefore, General Immunity to Logic...
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Wankers wanking
All jokes aside what does it even mean to be ND to Logic ? As in outside the framework of all logic ? Isn't that like T0 stuff ?
 
BreezeHM said:
You can have lesser forms of it, but true unrestricted/manipulation of all possible worlds is only Tier 0.
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I figured something along that line, I think only T0 should have the NEP to Logic and Graham should have resistance of some kind imo but idk much
 
Cipher72 said:
I figured something along that line, I think only T0 should have the NEP to Logic and Graham should have resistance of some kind imo but idk much
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I mean it's not true immutability to logic, just means that you would need a feat of applying logic to a character that lacks logic to logic hax them. Since Logic Manipulation is limited only directly to what it's been shown to do.
 
ElPapucho80 said:
Question: Worlds use Fire Dew to deep? So what's Fire Dew, energy to create the world and magic?
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  • Firedew (Horo): The "source" equivalent that flows through the Round Garden of Principles. It cycles through birth, depth, demise, and change, slowly decreasing in amount in the process..
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  • Fire Dew: A visualization of the laws affecting the "Source" of the earth, which flows in the depths of the "Firmament of the Gods". This is the very power that the world contains, and the power of the world order is roughly equivalent to the total amount of fire dew in it.
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  • Fire Dew: The very power that the world contains, and it is the origin of all its sources. Cases have been confirmed in which the fire dew of people who perished in the bubble world leaked out of the world and were reincarnated in another world.
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These are the keywords, as far as what it is, it would be a visualization of the source of life. As basic as it is, I'm not sure if there's any further explanation post-silver sea tho
 
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