(GRACE) Sans vs Roaring Knight REMATCH

[StrymULTRA]

This is a rematch that was waiting to be made from a while, as a part of my gauntlet of Sans vs the Deltarune secret bosses (credits for the pic to u/Lampostkj).

Battle conditions:

• Fight takes place at New Home (assume the Underground is a Dark World here)
• Starting distance is 10 meters
• 7-B Roaring Knight is used
• Speed is equalized
• SBA for the rest

The gaps are something we all already know, so no reason to repeat them.

Sans: 0

The Roaring Knight: 13 (Qurbonboev, Axorandom0, Poketmonsrs, Ednaxel2, Diamond_Drone, BestMGQScalerEver, SnakesCity, LittleGuy99, Nonynho, Arkansalter2, Zanesucksatlife, Mommyleona, Supersonicmaker)

Asgore (incon): 0

 

[Qurbonboev]

We already had this fight earlier, and it ended by close Knight win. What changed with new Deltarune revisions? Sans no longer holds neither AP advantage, nor LS advantage(Sans being stronger physically than Knight, even for short time was truly a sight to behold). Now Knight can oneshot, doesn't care about Blue Mode with LS and flight in addition to old advantages:

• Being able to dodge attacks with shapeshifting(that takes only 1 frame),
• Range advantage with attacks,
• Complex and fast danmaku that Sans never faced before,
• Stamina advantage,
• Being able to answer Sans 4th wall shenanigans with their owns
• Titan summoning
• Perception hax

Voting Knight FRA

 

[Axorandom0]

The rematch changes nothing other than making it go from “close fight in favor of the Knight” to “Knight definitively wins this”. Voting Knight.

 

[Poketmonsrs]

Rouxls Kaard FRA

 

[StarShooter80]

7-B Roaring Knight is used

WHAT difference would this make

Anyways Knight FRA for obvious reasons

 

[Diamond_Drone]

Yeah this is the same as before but it favors the Knight MUCH more. Roaring Knight FRA

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

yea knight hard takes it lmao

 

[SnakesCity]

FRA

 

[LittleGuy99]

The Roaring GOAT FRA!!

 

[Nonynho]

Roaring knight FRA

 

[Steve1775]

Sans because he is cooler

 

[Arkansalter2]

AAAAAAAAAAAA RRRRRAAAAAAAA me terribly explaining TRK's intro FRA.

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

Roaring knight FRA

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

dear god did sans get FRA trained

 

[SnakesCity]

dear god did sans get FRA trained

The prophecy foretold it.

 

[Qurbonboev]

dear god did sans get FRA trained

FRA train is when people vote without sufficient discussion and hearing counter argumentation. Normally this situation would be FRA train, but we already discussed this matchup for 6 pages, covering extensively everything there is to cover(including how much biology does Sans actually has). Knight won despite LS and AP disadvantage. Upgrades now change this battle to decisive win(not a stomp since Sans still can practically oneshot).

 

[Mommyleona]

rest in piss Sans you wont be missed
Roaring Knight fra

 

[Supersonicmaker]

damn sans is getting cooked
roaring knight fra

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

We already had this fight earlier, and it ended by close Knight win. What changed with new Deltarune revisions? Sans no longer holds neither AP advantage, nor LS advantage(Sans being stronger physically than Knight, even for short time was truly a sight to behold). Now Knight can oneshot, doesn't care about Blue Mode with LS and flight in addition to old advantages:

• Being able to dodge attacks with shapeshifting(that takes only 1 frame),
• Range advantage with attacks,
• Complex and fast danmaku that Sans never faced before,
• Stamina advantage,
• Being able to answer Sans 4th wall shenanigans with their owns
• Titan summoning
• Perception hax

So it's a stomp.

 

[Qurbonboev]

So it's a stomp.

Bro geniunely calls match where Sans can practically oneshot opponent a stomp for him

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bro geniunely calls match where Sans can practically oneshot opponent a stomp for him

He can’t one-shot, and he has no reliable way to tag him given all of TRK advantages.

 

[Catbowtie]

Holy Stomp match

 

[Kellex]

Papyrus stomps

 

[Qurbonboev]

He can’t one-shot, and he has no reliable way to tag him given all of TRK advantages.

I said practically oneshot. He still all his blasters and bones, together with weird space time shenanigans. He just needs slip up on side of Knight.
Stomp argument would have worked if Knight had godly dodging skill(she doesn't have it, she is just good enough to win) or Knight had amps that would give her blitz worthy speed advantage. As in currently stands it's decisive win for Knight

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Perception hax, shapeshifting, Titan, and complex Danmaku pretty much makes it a stomp in favor of TRK lol.
Sans won't really be able to hit him.

 

[Qurbonboev]

Perception hax, shapeshifting, Titan, and complex Danmaku pretty much makes it a stomp in favor of TRK lol.
Sans won't really be able to hit him.

Knight had everything you listed in previous match, yet you were voting for Sans. He still has IA, longer range with TP, faster reactions. Perception/Biology hax won't be helpful here. Only thing he lost is AP advantage(which makes Knight job easier but not to such a degree), and Blue Mode(which is good chunk of his repertoire, but even without it he still have very dangerous danmaku). He would be able to hit her

 

[StrymULTRA]

Isn't it weird how the same people who were so ardent and confident in Sans beating the Knight (if not all of Deltarune) are now saying that he gets stomped?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

They lack belief

Basically all of the RF's abilities are smoke and mirrors,
We know they start with the infamous DR long-range slash that (as we previously went through in the Susie thread) sans can easily dodge with his IA, and RF's as agile as a first 5min UT Player, they're going to go to the left to avoid a Gaster Blaster and be met with a bigger one coming from the right, that one-shots em cause they only got 20HP.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

RF also only fought against lads they speed blitz, so their attacks are going to be going at a snail pace against sans here.

 

[Mommyleona]

They lack belief

Basically all of the RF's abilities are smoke and mirrors,
We know they start with the infamous DR long-range slash that (as we previously went through in the Susie thread) sans can easily dodge with his IA, and RF's as agile as a first 5min UT Player, they're going to go to the left to avoid a Gaster Blaster and be met with a bigger one coming from the right, that one-shots em cause they only got 20HP.

RF also only fought against lads they speed blitz, so their attacks are going to be going at a snail pace against sans here.

who's RF

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

who's RF

you know who it is

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Isn't it weird how the same people who were so ardent and confident in Sans beating the Knight (if not all of Deltarune) are now saying that he gets stomped?

He got buffs this time?

 

[StrymULTRA]

He got buffs this time?

I just do not think that arguments for Sans having 0% chance of victory are convincing, given that there are still chances that things like a full strike from a Gaster Blaster would do the job, just that TRK would simply manage to kill him before more times than not, that's the argument.

It's a decisive victory, a stomp would be something like Sans being completely incapable of winning even if he hits the opponent all the time, it's why he has Broly in his losses after all.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

RF's only hope is the air push thing, but even it would send sans out of the RF's range and give sans an easy opportunity to stealth Blaster them.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I just do not think that arguments for Sans having 0% chance of victory are convincing, given that there are still chances that things like a full strike from a Gaster Blaster would do the job, just that TRK would simply manage to kill him before more times than not, that's the argument.

It's a decisive victory, a stomp would be something like Sans being completely incapable of winning even if he hits the opponent all the time, it's why he has Broly in his losses after all.

Perception Manip & Titan's Fear Manip literally gives Sans 0 chance.

 

[StrymULTRA]

RF's only hope is the air push thing, but even it would send sans out of the RF's range and give sans an easy opportunity to stealth Blaster them.

 

[Diamond_Drone]

He got buffs this time?

The physicals did get changed (High 8-C -> 7-B), but everything else is mostly the same as it was in the previous match.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Perception Manip & Titan's Fear Manip literally gives Sans 0 chance.

Good thing ya voted for Sans in the last thread, what happened all of a sudden :#

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Perception Manip & Titan's Fear Manip literally gives Sans 0 chance.

Non-combat applicable Perception Manip and Fear Manip (That does nothing but make sans kinda scared) from the thing RF won't even be able to summon in time?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

The physicals did get changed (High 8-C -> 7-B), but everything else is mostly the same as it was in the previous match.

That was one of Sans' last hopes, he could actually one-shot. Here he can't.

Good thing ya voted for Sans in the last thread, what happened all of a sudden :#

Non-combat applicable Perception Manip and Fear Manip (That does nothing but make sans kinda scared) from the thing RF won't even be able to summon in time?

Uh, I thought it was combat-applicable?

It can make Kris feel lightheaded, make them see gold stars, make them get a migraine, make them feel like something is hovering behind their head, make their vision narrow, make them feel like the world is revolving around them, make their head spin, make their chest feel tight, make their chest feel twisted and make their heartbeat become twisted

Also making Sans scared would make him effectively unable to fight properly, no?