I will grant you destruction. Shiva vs Nanook. (Granblue Fantasy vs Honkai Star Rail)

[TheGreatJedi13]

Destruction through rebirth and purgation
Destruction through annihilation
only 1 victor

Both in their Low 1-C Keys
Speed Equal
SBA
Fight Takes place inside Zurvan's dimension








































Shiva :
Nanook :
ok :

 

[Hizack123]

Errrrrrr

What are the win con for both side????

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

don't know didn't check

 

[Hizack123]

don't know didn't check

 

[Voidnether]

I mean Nanook also has EE and HGR like Shiva through Aeon Physiology (that in itself has a lot more abilities) but like Nanook's ability is everything on this CRT

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Shiva is cooked, logically Nanook would just do this since it has Irontomb's EE (given Irontomb destroying the universe is Irontomb deriving powers from Path of Destruction, plus its 1 layered other than CM1 & IM2)

Of course other than the passive imaginary energy and coreflames but hey

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Shiva resisted EE no problem (although this is probably because he is protecting himself with his own flame) since he bathe on Asura/Otherworld and wasn't assimilated, and got angry and destroyed it with annihilation lightning

since they are in Zurvan's dimension. That means Sky-realms effect on causing Change on the Primal beast is ineffective, so Shiva's immutability would remain as long as he retains his regeneration (his regen basically works in a way that it will always regen the Avatar or body into its original states before any functionality is hampered)

idk how strong Irontomb's EE. But Shiva, being swallowed by Asura, was unaffected.
Asura being otherworld or chaos, and chaos being the opposition of Providence, where divine logic, laws, concepts, info, etc exist

Shiva can also do the same and erase everything, leaving nothing but a white void

 

[Voidnether]

Shiva resisted EE no problem (although this is probably because he is protecting himself with his own flame) since he bathe on Asura/Otherworld and wasn't assimilated, and got angry and destroyed it with annihilation lightning

since they are in Zurvan's dimension. That means Sky-realms effect on causing Change on the Primal beast is ineffective, so Shiva's immutability would remain as long as he retains his regeneration (his regen basically works in a way that it will always regen the Avatar or body into its original states before any functionality is hampered)

idk how strong Irontomb's EE. But Shiva, being swallowed by Asura, was unaffected.
Asura being otherworld or chaos, and chaos being the opposition of Providence, where divine logic, laws, concepts, info, etc exist

Shiva can also do the same and erase everything, leaving nothing but a white void

Irontomb's EE is 1 layer to things like CM1 & IM2 (should include every fundamental aspects in the universe tbh) given the Emanators resist EE in Imaginary Space but they get erased by Irontomb

Nanook's HGR factor covers all the aspects in NEP + other things like time, history and so on in Aeon Physiology, he has like 100+ abilities through Path of Destruction alone with some of them being passive

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Irontomb's EE is 1 layer to things like CM1 & IM2 (should include every fundamental aspects in the universe tbh) given the Emanators resist EE in Imaginary Space but they get erased by Irontomb

Nanook's HGR factor covers all the aspects in NEP + other things like time, history and so on in Aeon Physiology, he has like 100+ abilities through Path of Destruction alone with some of them being passive

Which of those are inherited abilities from lower reality, and which are actually on the scale capable of affecting Aeons? I should add that Shiva defending himself from Otherworlders is through a fundamental difference in dimensionality, that it is no longer about power or strength, which makes anything lower dimension incapable of resisting it unless they are equal or stronger.

Also, since you mentioned, does layering work because they bypass resistance through potency or through other mechanics?

because depending on how it works. It can still be resisted or fought off due to how his flame works

Also shiva's NPI also covers all aspects of NEP nature type 2. Since the otherworld is like HSR nihility last time I checked

 

[Voidnether]

Which of those are inherited abilities from lower reality, and which are actually on the scale capable of affecting Aeons? I should add that Shiva defending himself from Otherworlders is through a fundamental difference in dimensionality, that it is no longer about power or strength, which makes anything lower dimension incapable of resisting it unless they are equal or stronger.

Also, since you mentioned, does layering work because they bypass resistance through potency or through other mechanics?

because depending on how it works. It can still be resisted or fought off due to how his flame works

Also shiva's NPI also covers all aspects of NEP nature type 2. Since the otherworld is like HSR nihility last time I checked

All of them are capable of affecting Aeons since you know, most of the abilities there are through Coreflames and Khaslana used 400 million Coreflames to scratch Nanook

Irontomb itself is capable of affecting Nous by self-coronating, but its EE in particular is only covering the physical plane of the Tree if anything but this boils down to range issue

They bypass resistance, im not sure if its through potency because like Emanators resist EE but they get erased by Irontomb

I know Shiva has NPI to the Aeons, its just that I'm saying the Aeons HGR extends to like all the aspects in NEP and time & history too

 

[Hizack123]

I'm begin to lean into incon, they both possibly can one shot each other

 

[3Pencil]

I know Shiva has NPI to the Aeons, its just that I'm saying the Aeons HGR extends to like all the aspects in NEP and time & history too

Shiva can negate HGR which extends to NEP all and the otherworld has no time

 

[Voidnether]

Shiva can negate HGR which extends to NEP all and the otherworld has no time

Isn't it only for Immortality?

 

[3Pencil]

Isn't it only for Immortality?

The otherworlders can infinitely regenerate as long as they can draw power from the otherworld, you need to overpower them dimensionally or use similar scope

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

I kinda thinknow that this might be a mismatch since it involves otherworlders and their "no uh" to anything lower dimensionally (The catch is they don't have dimension either, so you basically actually need low 1-A hax if crt passed)

well it was worth trying at least

Maybe I'll try with the other low 1-C supernal mage but they are vulnerable to passives and has no regen anti regen

 

[Voidnether]

I kinda thinknow that this might be a mismatch since it involves otherworlders and their "no uh" to anything lower dimensionally (The catch is they don't have dimension either, so you basically actually need low 1-A hax if crt passed)

well it was worth trying at least

Maybe I'll try with the other low 1-C supernal mage but they are vulnerable to passives and has no regen anti regen

Well, Nanook is comparable to the Cocoon of Finality which has BDE1 due to it being dimensionless + lacking any dimensional information, does that change anything?

Nanook has the highest degree of Honkai Energy by now, so that and Path of Destruction and Imaginary Energy

Also, this might be a mismatch since even if the 7 extra dimensions are compactified, Aeons are still 12-D in terms of HDE in Aeon Physiology

 

[3Pencil]

Well, Nanook is comparable to the Cocoon of Finality which has BDE1 due to it being dimensionless + lacking any dimensional information, does that change anything?

Nanook has the highest degree of Honkai Energy by now, so that and Path of Destruction and Imaginary Energy

Also, this might be a mismatch since even if the 7 extra dimensions are compactified, Aeons are still 12-D in terms of HDE in Aeon Physiology

Otherworlders lacks dimensions and have BDE2 as the concept of death, they interact with reality by using vessels, And to cut them off you either need to erase them and their concept or cut off their connection with their vessel.

Shiva can permanently purify/destroy them

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Well, Nanook is comparable to the Cocoon of Finality which has BDE1 due to it being dimensionless + lacking any dimensional information, does that change anything?

Nanook has the highest degree of Honkai Energy by now, so that and Path of Destruction and Imaginary Energy

Also, this might be a mismatch since even if the 7 extra dimensions are compactified, Aeons are still 12-D in terms of HDE in Aeon Physiology

BDE type 2 was recently accepted for Otherworlders and Divine beings.
and concept now reaches up to low 1-A as long as their concept can exist in said dimension or realm
so yeah this is even more mismatch now

 

[Hizack123]

BDE type 2 was recently accepted for Otherworlders and Divine beings.
and concept now reaches up to low 1-A as long as their concept can exist in said dimension or realm
so yeah this is even more mismatch now

Oh yeah