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Calculation was done incorrectly

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
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LS based on timeframe assumption looks fine. But:
8.73761E+18 * 384399000 = 3.37007E+27 J or 8.02755E+17 Tons of TNT (High 6-A)
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You can't use distance from your distance assumption for calculating "assuming timeframe" case as traveled distance will be different. You already have your AP. You'll just need to divide it by timeframe I guess.
 
Unfortunately, I have bad news here. So upon rereading the blog, I noticed we have overlooked the details of another party outside of the four Jedi’s Telekinesis
Floxy178 said:
Thank y'all for evaluations.

@Hagane_no_Saiyajin You've got 3 votes, I believe you can get this closed and open a CRT.“
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“We’ll do our best.”
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“All right. Firing magclamps in three…two…”
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Four metal disks shot out into space ahead of their formation, angling toward the passenger compartment. The thing was venting vapor from either a coolant or a life-support system, creating a thick fog into which the disks vanished. Thick, silvery lines unspooled—the cabling attached to the Longbeam’s winches, with which they would attempt to slow the wreckage down. Three of the lines went taut, the other looping and coiling in space.
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“We hit it with three out of four. As good as we can hope. We’re gonna apply reverse thrusters. Get ready.”
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So outside of the Jedi’s collective effort when it comes to moving the object with their telekinesis, they needed the help of a Longbeam starship cruiser to slow down the object for the first feat in question.

Also, I kinda already got the image what a Longbeam starship cruiser looks like in the High Republic.


So we actually have to get the calc fixed for the third time as this is a major oversight that I can’t afford to overlook as the main premise for the Calc was just the Jedi’s telekinesis ability to slow down the debris, but then they actually needed help from a spaceship/starship cruiser.
 
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@HammerStrikes219 I think we also need to figure out what "Dozens of Jedi, acting as one." really means because "Dozens" is rather vague of a term after all and even if we assume it's the full 10,000 members, is it equal effort? And does that also include Yoda or younglings?
 
Hm, is there any indication of how much it was slowed down?
 
Drite77 said:
Hm, is there any indication of how much it was slowed down?
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With both assistance of the starship and the Four Jedi that was involved with the feat in question, they did succeed at stopping the debris to a slowing stop here.

”The compartment slowed. More, and more, until it came to a slow stop, the Longbeam reeling it in on its cables.”
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LIGHT OF THE JEDI - CHAPTER 15
 
Hm, is there any reason why you can't count the ship as another factor on the calc? If it wasn't said to do the majority of the work, it could be said it did about as much as each of the Jedi
 
Drite77 said:
Hm, is there any reason why you can't count the ship as another factor on the calc? If it wasn't said to do the majority of the work, it could be said it did about as much as each of the Jedi
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I wasn’t saying that as I not responsible for the calc. That responsibility was for Hagane, not me in that regard.

I only just find out about this particular calculation recently and upon deeper scrutiny, I find additional context that point to both the ship and the Four Jedi responsible for the feat in question. The source will been from Chapter 15 Star Wars Light of the Jedi

“You certainly waited long enough to tell us,” came Mikkel’s reply. Even through his translator, he sounded utterly exhausted.
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“Almost out of fuel,” said Joss, ignoring the remark, “couple more seconds and we’d have had to shut off our thrusters. We couldn’t have done that alone. Thank you, Jedi.”
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“We couldn’t have done it by ourselves, either,” Te’Ami said. “And the idea was yours. Whether you thought it would work or not, it did.”
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The Jedi admit they couldn’t have done it without the Longbeam starship cruiser and vice versa there
 
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HammerStrikes219 said:
That responsibility was for Hagane, not me in that regard.
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I'm going to be honest and say I don't exactly care if the end result is High 6-A in the end, the accuracy of the calc is more of what matters in the end, so if we end up with High 6-B Jedi in the end, so be it!
 
Writing from memory, wasn't calc already assuming like 1% deceleration for 4 Jedi?

So my opinion is somewhat similar to Drite's. Four Jedi combined can be assumed to make half of work, I think? So yeah the calc needs to be redone and also account for full deceleration if I'm not mistaken.
 
Actualy the jedi slowed down the fragment by themself which they needed to do so the ship could catch the fragment with its cable. Basically the emergence was moving to fast to be stop so the jedi slow it down just enough for it to caught by the ship's cables
 
The ship had no affect on the slowing down of the fragment the ship just reeled it in stopping the collision and the reason it was possible was because the 4 jedi slowed it down with their "force lasso".
 
Abduwoah said:
Actualy the jedi slowed down the fragment by themself which they needed to do so the ship could catch the fragment with its cable. Basically the emergence was moving to fast to be stop so the jedi slow it down just enough for it to caught by the ship's cables
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Once again, it is stated the Jedi couldn’t have done the deed without the help of the ship, they were already struggling to perform the feat in question beforehand and I not even sure if the results would been accurate anyway.

Beside that, there are the matter of Telekinesis feat.

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Wasn't it "dozens of Jedi" as @HammerStrikes219 pointed out?
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Yes, for the second one.
 
Abduwoah said:
The ship had no affect on the slowing down of the fragment the ship just reeled it in stopping the collision and the reason it was possible was because the 4 jedi slowed
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Four metal disks shot out into space ahead of their formation, angling toward the passenger compartment. The thing was venting vapor from either a coolant or a life-support system, creating a thick fog into which the disks vanished. Thick, silvery lines unspooled—the cabling attached to the Longbeam’s winches, with which they would attempt to slow the wreckage down. Three of the lines went taut, the other looping and coiling in space.
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This text alone shows the Longbeam cruiser having to help the Jedi actually slowing down the passenger compartment.
 
Floxy178 said:
Writing from memory, wasn't calc already assuming like 1% deceleration for 4 Jedi?

So my opinion is somewhat similar to Drite's. Four Jedi combined can be assumed to make half of work, I think? So yeah the calc needs to be redone and also account for full deceleration if I'm not mistaken.
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Since the feat was performed by “dozens of Jedi”, what might be the correct number of Jedi?
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Since the feat was performed by “dozens of Jedi”, what might be the correct number of Jedi?
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I saw that scan you have posted on this thread. It mentions a hundred Jedi here.


Like at the very bottom of the text.

Edit: Also I would include another text section for the other feat in question.

Not only that, but she sensed that other Jedi had brought their focus to bear as well—from Coruscant, from across the galaxy. Even Yoda, wherever he was with his little crew of younglings—his great, wise mind sang its own part of the chorus, heartbreakingly beautiful, a voice of pure light belying his physical appearance. Not this crude matter indeed.
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So technically the entirety of the Jedi Order would been hundreds if not thousands working together.
 
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Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Since the feat was performed by “dozens of Jedi”, what might be the correct number of Jedi?
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It is two separate feats that was done technically speaking, but what I don’t get is why they also left out the fact that a hundred jedis was there to save the system from destruction.
 
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HammerStrikes219 said:
I saw that scan you have posted on this thread. It mentions a hundred Jedi here.


Like at the very bottom of the text.

Edit: Also I would include another text section for the other feat in question.



So technically the entirety of the Jedi Order would been hundreds if not thousands working together.
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HammerStrikes219 said:
It is two separate feats that was done technically speaking, but what I don’t get is why they also left out the fact that a hundred jedis was there to save the system from destruction.
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@Floxy178 what do you think?
 
Looking back at the feat the 4 jedi at the bare minimum slowed down the fragment by one percent which was the bare minimum needed to allow the ship to grab on the emergence.
 
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