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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

57Dev said:
Doesn't he let OFA constantly go despite the potentially of it eventually surpassing him and causing his death.
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Not really. He constantly tries to go after it, and almost steals it back on two occasions but fails because he's not strong enough to steal it. Which is why he develops the whole plan with Tomura and cultivating Tomura's hatred to allow him to steal OFA.
 
Damage3245 said:
Not really. He constantly tries to go after it, and almost steals it back on two occasions but fails because he's not strong enough to steal it. Which is why he develops the whole plan with Tomura and cultivating Tomura's hatred to allow him to steal OFA.
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He tries to steal it yes but whenever he is unsuccessful he lets it be passed on.

The only OFA even survived long enough to get this strong is because he didn't want to kill the holder thus killing the quirk.

Meaning he puts Yoichi above the potential threat that OFA brings to him. Despite being killed by OFA once he still doesn't want to kill Deku before he can take OFA.

So it's pretty clear he can put people he emotionally values above the threat that they present to him.

If he was strictly against any potential threats then he would have killed OFA long ago
 
57Dev said:
He tries to steal it yes but whenever he is unsuccessful he lets it be passed on.

The only OFA even survived long enough to get this strong is because he didn't want to kill the holder thus killing the quirk.

Meaning he puts Yoichi above the potential threat that OFA brings to him. Despite being killed by OFA once he still doesn't want to kill Deku before he can take OFA.

So it's pretty clear he can put people he emotionally values above the threat that they present to him.

If he was strictly against any potential threats then he would have killed OFA long ago
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He kept killing them after they had already transferred OFA. He tried extracting it from Yoichi, but couldn't because it had already been transferred.
 
There isn't really an indication that All For One let any of the past One For All users go.
When AFO caught up to them, they either already transferred the Quirk or was able to transfer the Quirk to someone else and that next user simply escaped.

It is possible that AFO let them escape, if we take power levels into account then especially so. But with En's case, he likely ran away using Smokescreen, and that same Smokescreen allowed Nana to safely inherit OFA and escape, and then Nana held back AFO to let All Might and Torino escape. Both Kudo and Bruce already transferred OFA when they were killed, IIRC.
 
57Dev said:
That would make AFO CW Flash level stupid.
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We have actual examples of AFO acting like CW Flash levels of stupid, if we're gonna follow this train of thought. Deciding to get into close quarters with All Might when he could've comfortably won in a distance is monumentally more stupid than the previous OFA users escaping him.
57Dev said:
Like how far do you think En can run in 5-10 seconds ? A few meters ?
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How far do you think En can run? Or Nana? Or any previous OFA users, really.
We don't really have any idea besides the natural assumption that they were all slower than All Might.

The most accurate guess we can make is that Nana was likely around the same level of speed as Gran Torino (although we don't have enough evidence to put this in a profile). Considering the number of characters that were keeping up with Rewind All For One's movement speed in the Final War, it doesn't sound so crazy that the featless One For All users could've managed to escape him.

Although again, I'm just stating that the OFA uses escaping is a valid scenario, not that AFO letting them escape is invalid. If Nana was as fast as Torino then her escape was very likely. En could've been either way, since IIRC it was with Banjo who AFO learned he couldn't steal OFA. While Shinomori and Bruce likely weren't there when AFO came after their predecessors.
 
Metalballrun said:
We have actual examples of AFO acting like CW Flash levels of stupid, if we're gonna follow this train of thought. Deciding to get into close quarters with All Might when he could've comfortably won in a distance is monumentally more stupid than the previous OFA users escaping him.
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Me personally, I think it makes sense that AFO would go in and toy with them. It’s an established point of his character that he constantly underestimates all except for All Might and Deku (even then, it takes him a while for him to actually show any “respect” for Deku, only once Deku accesses all of OFA’s power). He’s not gonna put his maximum effort in when facing them, thus they manage to get escape him. Instead of being tied to stupidity, like CW Flash, it’s more tied to his arrogance. He’s thinking “I don’t even need my max speed/power/Quirks to beat you” and that leads to them escaping him.
 
Vigilantes is returning in 2 days. There's definitely gonna be more speed feats to discuss since Sky Egg is getting adapted.

Also Captain Celebrity will finally get some actual feats. I feel like I'm the only fan of this guy. Most Vigs fans just focus on KD and Koichi but CC is definitely one of the best additions to the MHA universe.

And since Sky Egg arc is gonna be adapted in its entirety, we are also gonna get to see Knuckleduster Vs Six.
 
Gitagon said:
Vigilantes is returning in 2 days. There's definitely gonna be more speed feats to discuss since Sky Egg is getting adapted.

Also Captain Celebrity will finally get some actual feats. I feel like I'm the only fan of this guy. Most Vigs fans just focus on KD and Koichi but CC is definitely one of the best additions to the MHA universe.

And since Sky Egg arc is gonna be adapted in its entirety, we are also gonna get to see Knuckleduster Vs Six.
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imagine vigilantes comes out of the blue with anime only statements that push mha to moon level

that would be crazy
 
Gitagon said:
feel like I'm the only fan of this guy. Most Vigs fans just focus on KD and Koichi but CC is definitely one of the best additions to the MHA universe.
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A lot of Vigs fans think CC is stronger than Star and Stripe.

I think he'll get decently popular relative to how well Season 2 does.
 
I am most excited to see All Might again. And I mean as All Might the cheesy laugh and all.

Also given how good Tensei vs Bat villain chase scene was man I can only imagine the level of crazy presentation Number 6 will get.
 
57Dev said:
He tries to steal it yes but whenever he is unsuccessful he lets it be passed on.

The only OFA even survived long enough to get this strong is because he didn't want to kill the holder thus killing the quirk.

Meaning he puts Yoichi above the potential threat that OFA brings to him. Despite being killed by OFA once he still doesn't want to kill Deku before he can take OFA.

So it's pretty clear he can put people he emotionally values above the threat that they present to him.

If he was strictly against any potential threats then he would have killed OFA long ago
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AFO can take quirks from dead people yk
 
MrTayman616 said:
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Damage3245 said:
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Okay, so I have figured out what I really wanted to say here and here, so imma say it well.

You see, perception blitzes mostly happen in a way that, the character getting blitzed normally wasn't moving before the blitz happened. When that happens, the faster one definitely sees the slower one as completely frozen, since the slower one cannot react when the faster one blitzes. So your claim that snail speed slow mo is not applicable to perception blitz is true, but not entirely. Because when we look closely, if the slower one was moving or is given a chance to move, they would still be slow for the faster one, but not all cases will have the slower one being completely frozen or snail speed for the faster one. For example, a subsonic character can blitz the average human whether the human is in motion or not, but if the human was to be moving, the subsonic character is definitely not seeing the human as slow as a snail. Cases where a character after getting perception blitzed was given a chance to move exists in fiction even if rare, and looking at some of them prove my claim very well:giggle:.

So something like this is what Shiggy should have been able to do, but couldn't, therefore confirming that he was actually snail speed to Deku.
 
Damage3245 said:
Okay...?
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Yeahhh.......
Damage3245 said:
More importantly though, even if we accepted that Shigaraki was capable of Speed of Light movement, there is no indication that at that moment in that particular scene that he is moving anywhere at the Speed of Light.
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So this part is not a problem for my calc anymore, right??

And apparently I also broke some calc stacking rules according to some members. Is that really true??
 
MANOFGOD7 said:
Yeahhh.......

So this part is not a problem for my calc anymore, right??

And apparently I also broke some calc stacking rules according to some members. Is that really true??
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Yeah, it's still a problem. The Calc Stacking is something that can't be overlooked here; we can't just assume that Shigaraki is moving lightspeed in a scene for the sake of our calcs.
 
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Izuku Midoriya vs Arthur Leywin

During his second journey through the Relictombs, Arthur somehow finds himself transported to a new zone (MHA universe) Izuku Midoriya (Final War Arc) Attack Potency: 18.65 Teratons with Full Cowl, 1.12 Petatons with 100%, 5.60 Petatons with Fa Jin and Gearshift Durability: 18.65 Teratons with...
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first deku match
 
Well here are something to look forward to every Monday.

I must say, Vigilantes looks way better than the main series. It's like if every epsiode has AFO backstory level of shot composition, color grading and background art.

Nothing much has happened obviously it's the first episode but I am glad they kept the Recap to a minimum.

I have a question though. How does Fatgum fit through doors and hallways.
 
Also a nice travel speed feat for Koichi catching up to a bullet train without his quirk.

I know it's not at top speed but still those trains accelerate pretty fast.
 
Does anyone have the official VIZ scans for the laser stuff in the Armored All Might atuff

Need to confirm if it’s actually called a current lamp
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
Does anyone have the official VIZ scans for the laser stuff in the Armored All Might atuff

Need to confirm if it’s actually called a current lamp
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Here are the scans from the volume release. I’m not sure it’s current lamp unfortunately (or fortunately, not sure which one you wanted it to be)
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Edit: found the poem, it might actually be about a current lamp (this is a translation, but it makes sense in context to be taking about a current lamp.)
 
In this case would we go off of the kanji
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Of course, the VIZ release is a localized adaptation that can rephrase or adjust lines for English readability.

I would also ask for a translation in this thread, just to be sure.
 
Also does anyone know if we’re given info on who supplied All Might with his suit? If it came from the US it’s possible to link the tech with the X-66 jets even further

Those are the two I’m trying to argue LS
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
This dude is coping so hard, holy shit.
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I can kinda see where he's coming from with the fact that Endeavor's weaker than All might yet can fight High ends, which are 100% stronger that the USJ Nomu, who is stated to be his equal, can be seen a wonky in a vacuum (I personally just believe the fact the take exist is more over a flaw of the series in general rather than us using what the manga tells is the credible truth) but holy is he leaving out major context, especially for Mirko. Major downplay on his part
Holy Star glaze and Rewind AFO downplay tho. I'm moreso upset about that than anything said
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
This dude is coping so hard, holy shit.
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This guy also has mha at like moon level mftl+ btw (not that its a bad thing) its more so hes js didn't do that well at inverse

Imo Bakugo is def PAM level if he could definitively blitz a PAM level shiggy and hurt him at least a tiny bit
 
JoeDM021 said:
This guy also has mha at like moon level mftl+ btw (not that its a bad thing) its more so hes js didn't do that well at inverse

Imo Bakugo is def PAM level if he could definitively blitz a PAM level shiggy and hurt him at least a tiny bit
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Bakugo and prime all might level power in the same sentence (Speed is genuinely the only thing saving him)
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It's funny how the guy with Bombs for a power is carried by speed rather than DP or AP.

The Nomu's kinda got hoed in the First War going from One Man Army to a nusicance and then becoming completely irrelevant in the final war.

The Final War was just poorly written and Nomu got caught up in that.

If I had to use the Nomu's in the final war I would make it a Trump card for All For One. Instead of the asspull Rewind, AFO starts losing to Endeavour.

But then he teleports in the High Ends. An actual "We are fuxked" moment.
 
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