6-C Tournament Revival: Science Fantasy Clashes Round 1 Match 3 (Mega Gardevoir vs Spirit of Grungi)

Oh no.... Have a bad feeling for Gardevoir lmao, but hopefully she will still able to hold her own here

Is this legal to allowed a crew to join a duel? Yes it does, a ship that have the crew of powerful dwarves are ready to rumble against a powerful psychic Pokemon and jfc the most looded#slapped, who would win??? Let's find out

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• Mega Gardevoir is used
• This is Daemonslayer Gotrek and Felix crew being used here
• Speed are equalized
• Both are in-characters
• Starting Range: 50 to 100 meters
• Battlefield location: Black Forest, German
• Win via anything (K.O, incapacitation, or death)

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• Oompa loompa buddies but this time they willingly to throw hands......BADLY (23 Gigatons): 0
• Batman....this Pokemon is exotic Batman#Bruhstop (15.905 Gigatons): 0
• Inconclusive: 0

 

[DaReaperMan]

Two Words: Warhammer Wizard.

Max power nulls Gardevoir into oblivion, including her Black Holes, while the people on the ship open fire. Not really much the mage can do when the other mage is better.

 

[koopa3144]

I was wondering what the deal was with the Spirit of Grungi profile then I realized its a vehicle profile with multiple Warhammer peeps on board

I'm not gonna have much time to debate to day I'ma try to pop in later tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Zackra1799]

Two Words: Warhammer Wizard.

Max power nulls Gardevoir into oblivion, including her Black Holes, while the people on the ship open fire. Not really much the mage can do when the other mage is better.

What does max do exactly?

 

[DaReaperMan]

What does max do exactly?

Lore of Light primarily, and he has some Lore of Shadows, but basic Aethyr stuff is power nulling the supernatural and having the ability to see your opponent's intentions

 

[Zackra1799]

Lore of Light primarily, and he has some Lore of Shadows, but basic Aethyr stuff is power nulling the supernatural and having the ability to see your opponent's intentions

Doesn't that basically mean he powernulls the entire tourney?

That seems a bit more powerful than mid hax especially when he some allies with a bunch of oneshot abilities and allies with passive fate manip and passive fear hax that can stop hearts

 

[DaReaperMan]

Doesn't that basically mean he powernulls the entire tourney?

You have to remember that Magic in this verse is like handling unstable nuclear bombs

if you can tire Max out and force him to take a break, that part is over. Now you just have to deal with three slayers and the barrage of bullets and somehow get up to the airship or attack it.

That seems a bit more powerful than mid hax especially when he some allies with a bunch of oneshot abilities and allies with passive fate manip and passive fear hax that can stop hearts

His Allies with Fate Manip just can't die, and I have no ******* clue where you got fear hax that can stop hearts. You need to be able to see magic with ESP for that, and looking at Gotrek has never killed someone, just scared the hell out of them.

 

[Zackra1799]

You have to remember that Magic in this verse is like handling unstable nuclear bombs

if you can tire Max out and force him to take a break, that part is over. Now you just have to deal with three slayers and the barrage of bullets and somehow get up to the airship or attack it.

Dont know anything about warhammer so its a bit confusing considering how absurd the verses magic is?
Whats his stamina like? Since he doesn't have a profile to go off of

His Allies with Fate Manip just can't die, and I have no ******* clue where you got fear hax that can stop hearts. You need to be able to see magic with ESP for that, and looking at Gotrek has never killed someone, just scared the hell out of them.

• Fear Aura (When Gotrek is enhanced by two Runic Weapons he emits an aura akin to a Bloodthirsters that can stop mens hearts from fear instantly

 

[DaReaperMan]

Dont know anything about warhammer so its a bit confusing considering how absurd the verses magic is?
Whats his stamina like? Since he doesn't have a profile to go off of

For general stuff? Superhuman. For casting? One fight in a book gasses him out big time thanks to casting magic. He gets much better later in the series but this is not later in the series.

• Fear Aura (When Gotrek is enhanced by two Runic Weapons he emits an aura akin to a Bloodthirsters that can stop mens hearts from fear instantly

You realize that's one key of Gotrek, right? That he doesn't have access to without a big hammer he doesn't have here? This is Base Gotrek, who just gets as strong as his opponent.

 

[Zackra1799]

For general stuff? Superhuman. For casting? One fight in a book gasses him out big time thanks to casting magic. He gets much better later in the series but this is not later in the series.

Do we know how long the fight lasted?

You realize that's one key of Gotrek, right? That he doesn't have access to without a big hammer he doesn't have here? This is Base Gotrek, who just gets as strong as his opponent.

I was assuming sba for his 6-c keys the op doesn't list which 6-C key hes using here

 

[DaReaperMan]

Do we know how long the fight lasted?

Not exactly, but since the instance I'm thinking of got them swarmed, at least like, 10 minutes.

I was assuming sba for his 6-c keys the op doesn't list which 6-C key hes using here

It says Daemonslayer for a reason. Quite frankly, you'd have a DAMN good argument for it not being fit for the tournament if it was SBA. But it ain't.

 

[Zackra1799]

Not exactly, but since the instance I'm thinking of got them swarmed, at least like, 10 minutes.

Okay

It says Daemonslayer for a reason. Quite frankly, you'd have a DAMN good argument for it not being fit for the tournament if it was SBA. But it ain't.

I didn't know which key that was since it just calls his first key base on his profile

Honestly ill wait for other arguement but this kinda feels like a stomp as I don't think gardevoir can even reach the ship without its abilities, so it kinda just gets null diffed with no way to do anything

 

[MysticBrawler]

So what would happen if Gardevoir uses Destiny Bond and both of them get KO'd? Would the Spirit of Grungi still be declared the winner?

 

[DaReaperMan]

So what would happen if Gardevoir uses Destiny Bond and both of them get KO'd? Would the Spirit of Grungi still be declared the winner?

It would be nulled, but Destiny Bond only targets one person.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Spirit Of Grungi does count as one profile tho...

 

[Arkansalter2]

So isn't aethyr manipulation just completely batshit broken?...

 

[DaReaperMan]

So isn't aethyr manipulation just completely batshit broken?...

Absolutely, but Max doesn't use the nastiest parts of it. Outside of power Null that lets him **** over anyone slinging supernatural, but just git gud and dont be horrible at dealing with things without that stuff for ten to fifteen minutes or so.

 

[Arkansalter2]

This looks like a stomp because warhammer characters trolling.

 

[DaReaperMan]

This looks like a stomp because warhammer characters trolling.

Yeah... Gardevoir got maybe the worst matchup possible for her first one. At least she'd live past the first minute with Chakax.

 

[MysticBrawler]

It's too bad Gardevoir doesn't have any feats of using their telekinesis to throw boulders at people cause that seems to be all that's needed to have a fighting chance here.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I see, so that mean the Oompa Loompa gang proceed immediately due of this fight's outcome are a stomp in their favor

 

[Hypertornado099]

Yeah... Gardevoir got maybe the worst matchup possible for her first one. At least she'd live past the first minute with Chakax.

Can Gardevoir dodge the power null?

 

[koopa3144]

Ngl I forgot about this thread

I see, so that mean the Oompa Loompa gang proceed immediately due of this fight's outcome are a stomp in their favor

I was gonna come back and argue, but I'm lazy, and I don't really have anything. I don't wanna hold things up, so Spirit of Grungi can just move on in the tournament.

 

[Kachon123]

Since the match is against Spirit of Grungi, would taking the ship out of commission count as a win? It seems very cheese if the crew can just jump the enemy themselves if the ship is destroyed.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Since the match is against Spirit of Grungi, would taking the ship out of commission count as a win? It seems very cheese if the crew can just jump the enemy themselves if the ship is destroyed.

Cheese? ***** you will LIVE in the gouda and love the cheddar!

It's very hard to down it any ways cause you gotta blast it with physical projectiles. Ignoring that literally everyone on-board except for literally one has a baseline resistance to basically every hax on the wiki, with named ******* like Malakai, Snorri, and Max having layers backing them

In all seriousness, I have NO CLUE how vehicles with named crewmembers work here, I assume they jump you if you crash the ship(Though people like Felix, Ulrika, and most of the unnamed crew will be incapped)

 

[Kachon123]

I mean at that point the match wouldn't even be against Spirit of Grungi. I'm pretty sure once the vehicle is done, so would the battle. For example, you wouldn't really have to fight Boros and his generals once his ship is taken down if a match was made with it.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I mean at that point the match wouldn't even be against Spirit of Grungi. I'm pretty sure once the vehicle is done, so would the battle. For example, you wouldn't really have to fight Boros and his generals once his ship is taken down if a match was made with it.

That's why I prefaced it all by saying I don't know how it's handled. Shit hasn't been stated, really. Seems like something to ask mods about.

Mind you you're fighting the crew anyways because at least Gotrek, Felix, and Snorri will happily jump from the ship to beat a fool's head in... okay Felix might be half-forced to but point stands.

 

[Kachon123]

Mods can be asked, but this just seems like a way to turn this into one 6-C having to deal with getting jumped by several 6-Cs. Again, the match is against the battleship, so once its taken down, the match is over. Logically this would be the case, otherwise the submission would be "Mega Gardevoir vs Daemonslayer Gotrek and Felix crew."

 

[DaReaperMan]

Mods can be asked, but this just seems like a way to turn this into one 6-C having to deal with getting jumped by several 6-Cs. Again, the match is against the battleship, so once its taken down, the match is over. Logically this would be the case, otherwise the submission would be "Mega Gardevoir vs Daemonslayer Gotrek and Felix crew).

Repeating yourself does not make it any more convincing, Kachon.

 

[Kachon123]

I was hoping that repeating myself would make something so obvious click for you. Unfortunately that didn't happen. I'll just ask a mod then.

 

[MrTayman616]

It's nothing to fight over, just asking the creator of this thread what he intended here would be enough.

Like, is it against "The ship controlled by the crew" or "The ship along with the crew"?

 

[Kachon123]

It's nothing to fight over, just asking the creator of this thread what he intended here would be enough.

Like, is it against "The ship controlled by the crew" or "The ship along with the crew"?

DaReaperMan submitted the ship, which is why I asked.

 

[DaReaperMan]

DaReaperMan submitted the ship, which is why I asked.

And I'd say bros are getting jumped. But like, I'm not some maestro of these rules lmfao

 

[Kachon123]

And why was that accepted for this tournament..? That's essentially 5 different 6-C opponents + a giant 6-C ship and several hundred soldiers.

 

[DaReaperMan]

And why was that accepted for this tournament..? That's essentially 5 different 6-C opponents + a giant 6-C ship and several hundred soldiers.

Because Felix is 8-A, Ulrika only has 6-C weapons and is 8-A physically, and nobody except for Max and Gotrek are actually scary among the people who would be proper 6-C for the match(And Max is 8-A physically he's just a Warhammer Mage). Most of it is just a low hax brick

 

[Kachon123]

Because Felix is 8-A, Ulrika only has 6-C weapons and is 8-A physically, and nobody except for Max and Gotrek are actually scary among the people who would be proper 6-C for the match(And Max is 8-A physically he's just a Warhammer Mage). Most of it is just a low hax brick

Reminder that this is one of the rules

1. One users can submit two characters, each one of them must be from different verses

You're submitting a handful of characters, each from the same verse just packaged as one.

Either limit the crew to having just 1 6-C pilot (and however many fodders are needed to operate the ship) or just submit the pilot themselves. This is a bypass of the rules.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Reminder that this is one of the rules

You're submitting a handful of characters, each from the same verse just packaged as one.

Either limit the crew to having just 1 6-C pilot (and however many fodders are needed to operate the ship) or just submit the pilot themselves. This is a bypass of the rules.

The Spirit of Grungni is absolutely one thing. If you don't particularly like that, I'm just the one who submitted it. And Kisaragi was definitely keeping an eye on the rules because they were 2 seconds off from telling me I couldn't submit the titan cause 2 WHF characters were in and I submitted one of them. So yes, it is definitely allowed.

And mind, the same thing would happen if it was just Gotrek.

 

[Kachon123]

The Spirit of Grungni is absolutely one thing. If you don't particularly like that, I'm just the one who submitted it. And Kisaragi was definitely keeping an eye on the rules because they were 2 seconds off from telling me I couldn't submit the titan cause 2 WHF characters were in and I submitted one of them. So yes, it is definitely allowed.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. The Spirit of Grungni can't be "one thing" but in the same breath say that its opponent will get jumped by an army the second it goes down.

Kisaragi also accepted Law and even submitted Kuuga themselves. Just call them back in here to review if your interpretation of a valid wincon against the Spirit of Grungni can work.

 

[DaReaperMan]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. The Spirit of Grungni can't be "one thing" but in the same breath say that its opponent will get jumped by an army the second it goes down.

Most of that army is tier 9/8 fodder who'd die or be incapped in the crash so...

Kisaragi also accepted Law and even submitted Kuuga themselves. Just call them back in here to review if your interpretation of a valid wincon against the Spirit of Grungni can work.

And I'd say bros are getting jumped. But like, I'm not some maestro of these rules lmfao

...Also, Kisaragi is the OP, they're getting notifications anyways lmfao