John Slap Battles Vs John Ebg “who the #### is this noob” (1-1-4) (VOTERS NEEDED)

[Delusionaltx2]

The ability being called erasure pull

Using that to justify it being existence erasure is just a name fallacy

Not only that but that could just be because this is meant to be a jojo reference

 

[Arkansalter2]

Using that to justify it being existence erasure is just a name fallacy

You can look here for more information.
The trivia even says
"

• The glove, ability, and banner are a reference to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, based on Okuyasu Nijimura's stand that uses the name "The Hand."

Sooo..

 

[Delusionaltx2]

You can look here for more information.

The quote would just prove my pont on this being a reference based glove

The trivia even says
"

• The glove, ability, and banner are a reference to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, based on Okuyasu Nijimura's stand that uses the name "The Hand."

Sooo..

This just proves my point even more...

 

[Arkansalter2]

This just proves my point even more...

Theres nothing suggesting that it's just a pulling force but I suppose.
Even if the pull isn't okatsu's, the distance would be closed via materialize anyway. Materialize + oneshot glove = ggs.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Theres nothing suggesting that it's just a pulling force but I suppose.

I'm not exactly saying it is I'm just saying it could be

Even if the pull isn't okatsu's, the distance would be closed via materialize anyway. Materialize + oneshot glove = ggs.

1. They seemingly need to stand still to use this so what's to say EBG doesn't melt them while their standing still?

2. The fight takes place in a no one shot gloves server

 

[Thunderman101]

Theres nothing suggesting that it's just a pulling force but I suppose.
Even if the pull isn't okatsu's, the distance would be closed via materialize anyway. Materialize + oneshot glove = ggs.

True

I'm not exactly saying it is I'm just saying it could be

1. They seemingly need to stand still to use this so what's to say EBG doesn't melt them while their standing still?

2. The fight takes place in a no one shot gloves server

Snipe him with something like shard to slow them down

 

[Arkansalter2]

The fight takes place in a no one shot gloves server

I didn't see this. Lemme run my arg back.

 

[Thunderman101]

True


Snipe him with something like shard to slow them down

Use zzz sleepy rounds to slow him down or smth

 

[Arkansalter2]

I so forgot.
ELUDE MAKES JOHN SLAP UNHITTABLE LMAO.

 

[Thunderman101]

I so forgot.
ELUDE MAKES JOHN SLAP UNHITTABLE LMAO.

Only physical attacks…

 

[Thunderman101]

Only physical attacks…

But John slap cna easily close distance with phase which is invincible and moves fast

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I so forgot.
ELUDE MAKES JOHN SLAP UNHITTABLE LMAO.

Assuming the range of Elude scales to the range of the entire map that's like tens of meters

What happens when EBG nukes the entire map with an ult spell? Which has like hundreds of meters of range

Or what happens when EBG just does what they normally do and use timestop to bypass the ability by hitting them before they get the chance to teleport?

 

[Arkansalter2]

Only physical attacks…

Oh.
Well garou can't do shit.

Defense makes John EBG unable to do anything tbh, Clock can have John Slap be completely invincible in a chair forcing incon, Infinity makes things unable to hit him, theres a bunch of things that John EBG just doesn't have the answer to.

What happens when EBG nukes the entire map with an ult spell? Which has like hundreds of meters of range

Or what happens when EBG just does what they normally do and use timestop to bypass the ability by hitting them before they get the chance to teleport?

Elude is passive + it even works in time stop.

 

[Thunderman101]

Oh.
Well garou can't do shit.

Defense makes John EBG unable to do anything tbh, Clock can have John Slap be completely invincible in a chair forcing incon, Infinity makes things unable to hit him, theres a bunch of things that John EBG just doesn't have the answer to.

Elude is passive + it even works in time stop.

John slap can use clock to revive with the ult spell, or use pocket to hide in another dimension, or use phase to gain ifrwmes, or use reverse to send it right back, or use el gato to heal

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yeah John Slap is a walking NLF which would either result in a forced incon or a Slap win.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Also btw added staff exclusive gloves to optional equipment.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Oh.
Well garou can't do shit.

Where'd garou come from??

Defense makes John EBG unable to do anything tbh,

EBG has plenty of different attacks that either come from the ground (which the barrier doesn't seem to protect them from) or just spawn on the enemy (cursor based spells)

There's also just forceully puling him out of the barrier with TK

Clock can have John Slap be completely invincible in a chair forcing incon,

Assuming they can't fight back this would just fall under self incap

Infinity makes things unable to hit him, theres a bunch of things that John EBG just doesn't have the answer to.

Ebg uses funny space-time punch (chaos element) to hit him anyway

They also have access to their own form of spatial manipulation through elements like the space element or could just use cursor based shenanigans to spawn attacks on him

Elude is passive + it even works in time stop.

Then they nuke the map with an ult spell and outrange the tp

 

[Thunderman101]

Where'd garou come from??

EBG has plenty of different attacks that either come from the ground (which the barrier doesn't seem to protect them from) or just spawn on the enemy (cursor based spells)

There's also just forceully puling him out of the barrier with TK

Assuming they can't fight back this would just fall under self incap

Ebg uses funny space-time punch (chaos element) to hit him anyway

They also have access to their own form of spatial manipulation through elements like the space element or could just use cursor based shenanigans to spawn attacks on him

Then they nuke the map with an ult spell and outrange the

Reverse glove counters ult

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Reverse glove counters ult

Reverse glove has a limited duration and we've already established that EBG is more than capable of tanking their own spells.

Not only that but if their gonna be using reverse glove + elude then that just gives EBG more time to get familiar with how they work, which means they would eventually figure out the duration and just ult when the duration is over

 

[Arkansalter2]

Then they nuke the map with an ult spell and outrange the tp

Passive TP. It'll just make John Slap teleport over and over again within the hitboxes until the ult is done.
But yes there is also Reverse glove which reverses damage.

BG has plenty of different attacks that either come from the ground

It does. Folks with glovel can't even bypass it.

Since bob isn't allowed in no oneshots, Golem can do fine as well.
Also... oh look he's flying.

 

[Arkansalter2]

elude then that just gives EBG more time to get familiar with how they work

Elude is permanent, passive, and works in time stop.
Elude alone would just render everything that John EBG has useless.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Also, John Slap can transform into MR to roll around while accelerating the longer he moves. He can apparently reach 5000 kmh doing that.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Elude is permanent, passive, and works in time stop.

Again, nuke

Elude alone would just render everything that John EBG has useless.

Not really

Passive TP. It'll just make John Slap teleport over and over again within the hitboxes until the ult is done.

They TP a bunch until the nuke covers the entire map and leaves no room to dodge

But yes there is also Reverse glove which reverses damage.

Which again has a duration and if we're assuming their spaming this a ton against someone with EBGs level of survivability then chances are they would figure out the duration and just ult the second reverse wears off

It does. Folks with glovel can't even bypass it.

This is underground mobility, they dig a hole and then go forward

I'm literally talking about attacks that spawn directly under you or directly on you.

Since bob isn't allowed in no oneshots, Golem can do fine as well.

1. They outrange this horrendously

2. His one shot comes from abusing severe ragdoll rather than actually one shotting

Also... oh look he's flying.

TK or just sheer range

 

[Thunderman101]

I don’t see why John slap csnt just play the waiting game when he realizes ebg is keeping distance. Turn to a mehgarock and wait till he gets close or till he touches the rock

 

[Thunderman101]

Again, nuke

Not really

They TP a bunch until the nuke covers the entire map and leaves no room to dodge

Which again has a duration and if we're assuming their spaming this a ton against someone with EBGs level of survivability then chances are they would figure out the duration and just ult the second reverse wears off

This is underground mobility, they dig a hole and then go forward

I'm literally talking about attacks that spawn directly under you or directly on you.

1. They outrange this horrendously

2. His one shot comes from abusing severe ragdoll rather than actually one shotting

TK or just sheer range

John slap can just hide in his pocket dimensions….

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Also, John Slap can transform into MR to roll around while accelerating the longer he moves. He can apparently reach 5000 kmh doing that.

MR is a pretty easy glove to dodge from a distance...

EBG can literally just side step it and that forces them to stop and turn around to try again.

Also since they can't use other gloves while using MR all this does is allow them to stun him and one shot him without interruptions

 

[Delusionaltx2]

John slap can just hide in his pocket dimensions….

Which they wouldn't be able to do in time since they have no idea how big the nuke is or how fast the explosion expands

Unless you're willing to say they would somehow

1. Recognize their TP can't outrange this

2. They switch to a glove specifically capable of hiding behind pocket dimensions

All in like 3-4 seconds

 

[Arkansalter2]

They TP a bunch until the nuke covers the entire map and leaves no room to dodge

???? On an empty planet with the rules of a no one shot server, not an actual no one shot server.
Still no.

 

[Thunderman101]

Which they wouldn't be able to do in time since they have no idea how big the nuke is or how fast the explosion expands

Unless you're willing to say they would somehow

1. Recognize their TP can't outrange this

2. They switch to a glove specifically capable of hiding behind pocket dimensions

All in like 3-4 seconds

They csn use a glove with frames, megarock for example

 

[Delusionaltx2]

???? On an empty planet with the rules of a no one shot server, not an actual no one shot server.
Still no.

In that case they would be so far away that would just turn the fight into an incon since slap can't do anything as he would be tp'd way out of his own range

 

[Thunderman101]

In that case they would be so far away that would just turn the fight into an incon since slap can't do anything as he would be tp'd way out of his own range

thanos glove

 

[Arkansalter2]

In that case they would be so far away that would just turn the fight into an incon since slap can't do anything as he would be tp'd way out of his own range

Don't forget that he has elude + 2 other gloves in hand.
Elude is just a walking NLF which pretty much makes this a stomp.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

They csn use a glove with frames, megarock for example

They still have o first realize the nuke can harm them then switch to megarock and actually use the ability

Even then since they can't actually harm EBG it becomes an incon

 

[Thunderman101]

And if you argue he wouldn’t think to set up a thanos checkpoint recall exists which needs no checkpoint or prior setup

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Don't forget that he has elude + 2 other gloves in hand.
Elude is just a walking NLF which pretty much makes this a stomp.

Not really, it's still bound by the rules of conventional tp/I.A

They aren't doing anything to harm EBG, their just teleporting away and out of the effective range of their own gloves at that so they literally can't do anything

 

[Thunderman101]

They still have o first realize the nuke can harm them then switch to megarock and actually use the ability

Even then since they can't actually harm EBG it becomes an incon

Idk man I’m pretty sure someone would assume a giant nuke would hurt them. How long even is the set up for an ult move

 

[Thunderman101]

Not really, it's still bound by the rules of conventional tp/I.A

They aren't doing anything to harm EBG, their just teleporting away and out of the effective range of their own gloves at that so they literally can't do anything

Prior comment made on recall

 

[Delusionaltx2]

And if you argue he wouldn’t think to set up a thanos checkpoint recall exists which needs no checkpoint or prior setup

Unless we're assuming EBG is just coincidencally standing right on top of the check point they still have no way of actually catching them

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Prior comment made on recall

Which once again doesn't change anything unless we assume they become incredibly lucky and that EBG is just stupid

 

[Arkansalter2]

They aren't doing anything to harm EBG, their just teleporting away and out of the effective range of their own gloves at that so they literally can't do anything

Could prob just do Elude (unhittable) + MR (for insta gap close) + Pan which has a 1/10 chance to golden pan one shot (yes, it's still allowed in no oneshots) or mail which kills if you click OK if the time doesn't run out (also allowed in no oneshots).