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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

Attempting to scale a Chaos Emerald to the incomplete Time Eater would result in egregious circular scaling, no way to wiggle out of that situation.
It really isn't, given the said Chaos emeralds move/protect itself against Time eater while their Time is erased/drained (which is better than any immeasurable speed feat), it's similar to classic avatar Case in forces they just got buff.
 
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Chaos in the wiki is treated to be using the full power of the Chaos Emeralds (individually) which we currently rate as High 4-C. By accepting that scaling then Chaos would already become Low 1-C and thus the main cast would be WAY higher for Time Eater to do anything by the time of Generations, DESPITE it providing the scaling to the Chaos Emerald. By scaling the Incomplete Time Eater to the cast in this scenario, which it does, then the Chaos Emerald's shockwave shouldn't even affect it.
 
After looking at your points, it's kind of weird how they don't let Shadow use spin dahs or boost much more than Chaos Control (besides sonic prime), they probably trying to balance Shadow between his hedgehog abilities and Emerald's abilities, which leads to him either being more or less involved
 
Chaos in the wiki is treated to be using the full power of the Chaos Emeralds (individually) which we currently rate as High 4-C. By accepting that scaling then Chaos would already become Low 1-C and thus the main cast would be WAY higher for Time Eater to do anything by the time of Generations, DESPITE it providing the scaling to the Chaos Emerald. By scaling the Incomplete Time Eater to the cast, which it does, then the Chaos Emerald's shockwave shouldn't even affect it.
You could just have the Incomplete Time Eater upscale from the base cast initially, have the Chaos Emerald itself upscale him, and just have Perfect Chaos be as strong as the initial showing of the "full power" of the Emeralds. Honestly, the "full power of the Emeralds" is already inconsistent enough as it is if you ask me. It feels like the slider gets shifted constantly. It'd be easier to just scale to the most reasonable highest power of the Emeralds in that instance.
 
After looking at your points, it's kind of weird how they don't let Shadow use spin dahs or boost much more than Chaos Control (besides sonic prime), they probably trying to balance Shadow between his hedgehog abilities and Emerald's abilities, which leads to him either being more or less involved
It's why I just say give him his Sonic Battle powers. It isn't hard to do, it isn't broken cuz everyone is able to withstand the attacks without it being a one-shot, and it literally solves all of the problems with Shadow's powers/capabilities being completely underutilized.
 
Chaos in the wiki is treated to be using the full power of the Chaos Emeralds (individually) which we currently rate as High 4-C. By accepting that scaling then Chaos would already become Low 1-C and thus the main cast would be WAY higher for Time Eater to do anything by the time of Generations
Shouldn't this be Chao emerald own feat?, given they (by themselves without anyone influence) defend themselves from Time eater while moving in erase Time (unlike Super Sonic or doom shadow).
 
Imma be real, I don't like how Sonic Team are handling Shadow in terms of his abilities. As if he doesn't have Chaos abilities on his own without the Emerald. Like, being born with chaos power running through his veins is his thing. I just want him to actually use his powers without relying on the Emerald for once. I'm not a fan of this narrative being pushed they he always needs an Emerald to do any of what he does. And even if he doesn't use his chaos powers, he's still in the same ballpark as Sonic in terms of overall abilities. We almost never see him use the Spin Dash, Homing Attack, Boost, etc in these comics. It kind of blows.

If the only difference between Sonic and Shadow's abilities is that Shadow is slightly better at using Chaos Powers with a Chaos Emerald, then that sucks. Shadow's connection to Chaos Energy is one of his things. Big part of his entire concept. Even without a Chaos Emerald, he's got powers that only he is capable of utilizing as seen in Sonic Battle or traditional Sonic media like 06. As well as other Sonic media that we've seen, he's shown to be able to utilize those abilities as well. He even wears inhibitors to keep his innate Chaos Energy in check. But Sega is telling us that he can't just teleport a short distance or project energy at the very least without an Emerald?
AGREE AGREE AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY like c'mon Sonic Team how do y'all forget that Shadow can teleport without an Emerald
 
AGREE AGREE AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY like c'mon Sonic Team how do y'all forget that Shadow can teleport without an Emerald
Sonic Team makes Shadow's kit so boring by only letting him do ONE thing and ONLY when he has a specific item when he literally HAS that energy running through his body to be able to do it anyway.
 
I mean if that's gonna downgrade sonic speed to Superhuman-Subsonic, I'm fine with that. Home attack and boost damage aren't that different.
Let's not get hasty LOL. You aren't getting your downgrade. We literally see Sonic outpacing lasers, needing to reach light speed for time travel in CD, and even more. Literally check the scaling of the wiki all the way since the Classic Era. One "anti-feat" (not really one) doesn't negate literally every feat before and AFTER it.
 
Did they forget Shadow could use his chaos powers without a Chaos Emerald with just Maria in his heart? That's Sonic Battle for those that don't get it
 
Those lasers moves slower than Superhuman.
Speed GIFs | Tenor
 
Sonic in gameplay is slower, there is no feat in gameplay that let him move at superSonic speed.
Home attack and boost don't have statements about different levels of attack power.
Aside from him outspeeding lasers, running from a black hole, reacting to a ship going at interstellar travel, needing to accelerate to light speed in order to travel through time in CD, etc.

Trying to play the technicality/semantics game doesn't work. At that point, this affects more than just Sonic, it affects literally many video game verses because they "don't accurately portray these speeds", despite reacting to things that are shown, stated, or very much implied to be at certain speeds.

Playing in these weird technicality mental gymnastics is monkey court scaling and I'm convinced this is PURE bait LMAO.
 
Trying to play the technicality/semantics game doesn't work. At that point, this affects more than just Sonic, it affects literally many video game verses because they "don't accurately portray these speeds", despite reacting to things that are shown, stated, or very much implied to be at certain speeds.
We could honestly do the same to everyone, so everyone would be equal.
Look don't get me some gameplay do show speed above sound and light but most of them don't that. which some people would scale character with how fast they Can go



(It's enjoyable, and start if sonic got downgrade)

Edit: we could also use smash bracket methods, to scale sonic speed 2% light speed.
Playing in these weird technicality mental gymnastics is monkey court scaling and I'm convinced this is PURE bait LMAO.
You would be surprised by the amount of people out there scaling gameplay speed without statements (I saw someone scaling Goku at 255mph from dragon ball Z kakarot).

Edit: oh yeah, Superman is Also on the list if you count the mach 3 or lower then that.
 
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We could honestly do the same to everyone, so everyone would be equal.
Look don't get me some gameplay do show speed above sound and light but most of them don't that. which some people would scale character with how fast they Can go



(It's enjoyable, and start if sonic got downgrade)


You would be surprised by the amount of people out there scaling gameplay speed without statements (I saw someone scaling Goku at 255mph from dragon ball Z kakarot).

This is certainly a take
 
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