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That's already been agreed on, what's left is applying this
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Marvel: Fantastic Four Speed Downgrade
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I've literally had the title changed to that for a while now. That is the consensus.
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The thing is plenty of characters have "Comparable to F4 member" in their Speed. What has stopped this from being applied is that no one wants to go through the hassle of looking for them
ShakeResounding
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Bump.
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Does it need to be all in one go?
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That's preferable imo, don't want to add even more disjunction to the Marvel profiles
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@Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepmeThree @Elizio33 @MarvelFanatic119 @Catzlaflame @Lightning_XXI @ObberGobb @Excellence616 @Emirp sumitpo @Quantu @IdiosyncraticLawyer @LordTracer @ProfectusInfinity @Maverick_Zero_X @Dark-Carioca @ObberGobb @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @FinePoint @SamanPatou @Starter_Pack @Eficiente @Adr10K @The_Impress @ExcelsisBerny @M3X_2.0
Are any of you willing and able to help out with this please?
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Downgrades seem reasonable.
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I could, maybe tomorrow. I'd just need a list of every profile.Yes, but somebody needs to properly apply this revision.
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Yes, but somebody needs to properly apply this revision.
Gonna be listing 200 profiles guys
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Someone's gotta do it
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I agree with the downgrade.
To note, I also told Eseseso the same thing when he made the thread that upgraded their speeds, that this would be an outlier and that it would affect many more profiles than the ones he wanted to affect. But he disagreed. I knew someone would need to make the effort to clean that up in the future.
Edit: Being aware of past mistakes helps not to repeat them. Don't take it personal.
To note, I also told Eseseso the same thing when he made the thread that upgraded their speeds, that this would be an outlier and that it would affect many more profiles than the ones he wanted to affect. But he disagreed. I knew someone would need to make the effort to clean that up in the future.
Edit: Being aware of past mistakes helps not to repeat them. Don't take it personal.
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Don't think it was necessary to add that when the thread has already concluded but ok.
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Is there a way to, like, get an automated list of all the Street tiers and low Heralds, since those would be the only guys scaled to the FF?
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I think there's a way to see how many times a profiles is mentioned by others
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I think so, yes. You can create a temporary sandbox with a dynamic page list script.
Dynamic Page List
The Dynamic Page List (DPL) is a MediaWiki extension that serves as a page listing utility, allowing the creation of page lists based on various criteria. For our purposes, it will be used strictly as a replacement for the category intersection function to find pages that belong to specific...
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Thank you, but can't only staff members use it?I think so, yes. You can create a temporary sandbox with a dynamic page list script.
Dynamic Page List
The Dynamic Page List (DPL) is a MediaWiki extension that serves as a page listing utility, allowing the creation of page lists based on various criteria. For our purposes, it will be used strictly as a replacement for the category intersection function to find pages that belong to specific...
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Do I just make a blog post on the site with the DPL script or is there somewhere special I need to do it?We can make exceptions if the DPL scripts are used to help relevant wiki revision projects.
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bruh
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I stg I literally stumbled upon these a few hours ago
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Probably an outlier but still.
Also:
Any thoughts on this?
Microsecond speed feats for Human Torch
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Probably should be given on-site calculations first.
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I read a small fraction of FF comics so I will say that it's not an ourlier, just Flight Speed. Human Torch consistently has several crazy speed feats on with his flight. Not at this level, granted, but the justification has always been the following:
Probably an outlier but still.
- "[Johnny] explains that his flame only burns for a limited time, the brighter he burns and the faster he flies the sooner it extinguishes, so he dares not to blaze too brightly or fly too fast until he makes sure he won't need need his flames for a time. In short meaning that he has a peak speed that if he were to always use, he wouldn't last long with his flames on, but using a lesser speed consumes him far less stamina in that form. - Fantastic Four (1961) issue 9"
- "Q: How far, how fast can [Johnny] fly?" "A: That depends. The faster he flies goes, the shorter his limit becomes. At normal speed (about fifty air miles per hour) he should be able to fly for a half-hour, a distance of twenty-five miles." - Fantastic Four Annual Vol 1 1 (Obviously, he's faster than this, but the general rule on how his higher speeds work is consistent.)
Could the feat be an outlier anyway bc the writers didn't keep in mind the amount of time Johnny can keep his flames on? For sure, but I have no evidence of that. As far as I know, he learned use his flames for a longer amount of time.
That one's definitely an outlier. Also, even then Reed would be around as fast as the beam, to calc the actions needed to catch it is calc stacking.Also:
Both appear to be poetic, especially the latter. And in the former, he is using his nova flames, which is something of an amp, being able to match an exploding star and all.
Microsecond speed feats for Human Torch
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You create a personal sandbox page, and remove the script after it has fulfilled its purposes.
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Okay, I'll do it later.You create a personal sandbox page, and remove the script after it has fulfilled its purposes.
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Okay I generated a list for anyone linked to the FF, and after deleting the ones that aren't affect by any speed changes, here's what I got:
That should be most of them, I probably missed some though. (yes, I deleted the DPL)
- Amadeus Cho
- Awesome Android (Marvel Comics)
- Bi-Beast (Marvel Comics)
- Black Bolt (Marvel Comics)
- Blue Marvel
- Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell)
- Colossus (Marvel Comics)
- Doctor Doom
- Dragon Man (Marvel Comics)
- Executioner (Marvel Comics)
- Fin Fang Foom
- Godzilla (Marvel Comics)
- Grey Gargoyle (Marvel Comics)
- Hulk (Marvel Comics)
- Human Torch
- Invisible Woman (Marvel Comics)
- Iron Man Armor Model 29
- Iron Man Armor Model 37
Klaw (Marvel Comics)[He's still MHS+, but that's not for this thread]Korg (Marvel Comics)[Same as Klaw]- Kree (Marvel Comics)
- M.O.D.O.K.
Magik (Marvel Comics) [Same as Klaw]- Man-Thing (Marvel Comics)
- Mindless Ones (Marvel)
- Mister Fantastic
- Monster Android (Marvel Comics)
- Namor (Marvel Comics)
- Tiger Shark should be here, but was missed
- Red Hulk should be here, but was missed
- Ragnarok (Marvel Comics)
- Rogue (Marvel Comics)
- Ronan the Accuser (Marvel Comics)
- Carol Danvers was missed, but should be here too
- She-Hulk
- Sphinx (Marvel Comics)
- Super Skrull
- The Champion of the Universe
- The Thing (Marvel Comics)
- Theodore Altman (Hulkling)
- Venom (Edward Brock)
- Carnage should be here, but was missed
- Wonder Man
That should be most of them, I probably missed some though. (yes, I deleted the DPL)
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You should check if other characters also get their scaling from those in that list. Tiger Shark gets his speed from Namor
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I'd say Hank should be excluded (at least temporarily), since he has separate feats on this level
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His justifications would need to be changed, I'm pretty sure it references characters who are scaled to the FF.
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Actually Hank's speed came from a completely separate upgrade (that actually predates the FF ratings), it was just coincidental they were both Rela+
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My bad.
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Is it okay if I apply the revisions to the profiles already gathered in the list?
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If you made sure it's all the Relativistic+ then sure
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