Massive mistake in Joker(Persona 5) wiki

[Ffan08]

all parts of Jokers entries regarding Thor,Plasma,Mada and Archangel should not be used as it uses scaling related to the shin megami tensei demon version of the character, not the shadow itself. I do not have specific Shadows in mind but i recall Persona 1 and 2 having actual scaling for them. Additionally, Persona Q2 does not have significant feats for joker, nor is there any confirmed time in the series where it takes place so its placement of feats on this page is irrelevant when the Joker in that game is functionally a different character with the same name.

 

[Ffan08]

note that this would not affect the scaling, as his highest feats are unrelated to these nitpicks. But if i see misinformation on the page i like to report it.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Anyone knowledgeable on Persona? All I know about it is that Simon the Goat solos it with like negative difficulty

If these scaling chains do originate from alternate versions tho then I agree with OP for now

 

[Thunderman101]

Anyone knowledgeable on Persona? All I know about it is that Simon the Goat solos it with like negative difficulty

If these scaling chains do originate from alternate versions tho then I agree with OP for now

simon the glazed

 

[Ffan08]

Anyone knowledgeable on Persona? All I know about it is that Simon the Goat solos it with like negative difficulty

If these scaling chains do originate from alternate versions tho then I agree with OP for now

i have played every single mainline persona and shin megami tensei game. From what i am aware of, Personas share designs with Demons but they dont always have the same scaling. Also the scaling for Thor specifically seems to be based on the SMT3 version of the character when the scaling for them would most likely be the Shin Megami Tensei 1/2 version due to them being more connected to the Persona verse than SMT3

 

[AyOgUyS]

i have played every single mainline persona and shin megami tensei game. From what i am aware of, Personas share designs with Demons but they dont always have the same scaling. Also the scaling for Thor specifically seems to be based on the SMT3 version of the character when the scaling for them would most likely be the Shin Megami Tensei 1/2 version due to them being more connected to the Persona verse than SMT3

I would still like other Persona supporters here

 

[Maniaunavailable]

Anyone knowledgeable on Persona? All I know about it is that Simon the Goat solos it with like negative difficulty

If these scaling chains do originate from alternate versions tho then I agree with OP for now

yeah am ngl any mid tier persona is killing simon

 

[Vietthai96]

@Milly_Rocking_Bandit

Also OP, you need scans to back up your argument, empty words will not gonna convince anyone

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Personas not being equal to Demons in the gargantuan 2025.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Shadows ARE Demons.

And Persona Q takes place from Persona 5 during Sae Nijima's Palace, hence why Goro Akechi as Prince Crow is with the Phantom Thieves.

Plus ALL of Megami Tensei/Persona profiles are Beyond Outdated... ALL the pages should have the Outdated template

 

[Ffan08]

Shadows ARE Demons.

And Persona Q takes place from Persona 5 during Sae Nijima's Palace, hence why Goro Akechi as Prince Crow is with the Phantom Thieves.

Plus ALL of Megami Tensei/Persona profiles are Beyond Outdated... ALL the pages should have the Outdated template

Personas and Demons are different as shown in Persona 2, where Demon Summoners and Persona Users are different.
also i agree with the last 2 things i was not aware of it taking place during Sae

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Personas and Demons are different as shown in Persona 2, where Demon Summoners and Persona Users are different.

Holy circular. Not only does this not prove anything, it especially doesn’t prove that Personas aren’t equal to Demons. In fact, the game argues the exact opposite, considering the cast uses their Personas to fight Demons.

Play the games.

 

[DaReaperMan]

People when actually playing the games instead of watching videos/listening to reddit is a better way to know scaling:

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Personas and Demons are different as shown in Persona 2, where Demon Summoners and Persona Users are different.

Bro, you're kind of late to the party, Personas = Demons has been a thing since...2021.

Personas are literally called Demons in Persona 1.