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Sendokai Champions Discussion thread
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Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have generated much interest, even among those in Latin America.
Well, I think we can at least start by making the verse page and some kind of profile. Just to have a base.
Did I send my old sandbox here? I made the verse page a long time ago, but I don't know which sandbox it was in or when it was made.
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no you didn't, sadly.
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I can try to find it.
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Yes, I sent it, it was here.
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I was going to say that sandbix6 was occupied by Vampire Survivors, but I'll never finish this, so you can continue.
Do whatever you want. So replace "protagonists" with "Sen-Kuns"
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it is weird that in English Senkuns is all united, but in spanish, is separated.
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Wikisen Playlist
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i won't use the power levels shown there, since they are clearly just like the G power from Bakugan...USELESS BULLSHIT.
however, do you think we should use the statement of "unlimited power" from the Nero Sen fusion?
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the Tai sen trail is stated to be capable of moving at "supersonic speeds" however, we know that Fenzy can cover the entire mausoleum before all the shoots from the cannons hit
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i am still having a fighting against the ******* NU SEN FLARE.
it is acausality type 2?Chronam-Sunn stated that she was present "in all moments", how the **** does that even work?
and remind you, her power allows her to rewind time (or travel to the past), yet she was not able to rewind anything there, she only saw Chloe in all moments...WHAT THE **** IS THAT?
it is acausality type 2?Chronam-Sunn stated that she was present "in all moments", how the **** does that even work?
and remind you, her power allows her to rewind time (or travel to the past), yet she was not able to rewind anything there, she only saw Chloe in all moments...WHAT THE **** IS THAT?
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I was just saying that better armor increases their strength more.
Obviously, for us (at vsbattle), the numbers aren't important, but we can justify it by saying they're stronger than before because of the armor.
Well, you need to calculate first.
I don't understand. What are you asking?
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yeah that works
okay, first we need to height of Fenzy (not that hard, since Tanpo is like a meter tall, confirmed by narrative 2)then we need the size of the mausolleum, then the speed of the shoots from the cannon (since they are cannons...canon ball speed?)
episode 18
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I interpreted the actions performed during the DESTELLO NU-SEN technique as occurring at all points in time. That's why when she traveled through time she saw each copy of Chloe with a Do, since every movement with the Do she made during the technique happened at all points in time. But it's vague too, so oh well.
On Wikisen itself, the narrator says that the technique controls space-time for teleportation and that's all.
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the narrator is Zak by the way.
also, that actually makes sense in a way, the chroneks can manipulate space-time and travel through time, and Chloe, can counter attack it by using hers too
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It's just the voice actor being reused.
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ohhhhh, that makes sense...so we can give her Acausality? (and Lon for basically having the same ******* power)
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I think it would be type 3, and even then it would be in a more specific (almost limited) way, I think it would fit more as "space-time hax, teleportation, duplication/temporal omnipresence" during the use of this power.
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Now, we should talk about a important thing...THE SCALING.
because you know, the show has feats that we see, but there is also some statements about certain things that could buff the verse.
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I only remember Zack breaking the mountain in episode 1.
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he just broke a big statue, not a mountain.
however, i do remember that Kiet Koa sen shield was strong enough to resists the sen explosion of the molox dimension...and the Zorn fortress was shown to survive the explosion of the entire sen of several dimensions in the multiverse.
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Also could the Sen count for UE?
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wait let me see:
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all techniques use the Sen has the principal power for anything, they sometimes just say "Energy" mostly because, well, Sen is energy, Tanpo also mentions that the Do's use Sen energy to be stronger than what they normally are, if they don't have sen energy, the Do's will just be balls completely inert and without power (in episode 3 is shown that, The senkuns needed to charge the Do's with Sen energy, and if they didn't do that, the Do won't be able to hurt the slurks), Sen is also used for machines, like the skimmers need your sen energy to be charged and usable, and the narratives (1th narrative and 3th narrative) state that all technological devices use Sen to be able to fuction in some capacity.
It is said in episode 16 that Zak spent all his Sen energy after unsuccessfully trying to use the Sho Sen Fire, and Tanpo says that if they do not control their abilities, they may end up dying, something that was demonstrated a chapter later, when Zak again failed to use the technique, and ended up being so weak that he even had to be carried.
there is also a effect that happens when you are removed from Sen energy, you turn into a Yaki, who is a spirit without Sen, and you need to give them all their energy stolen back by shooting at their core with the same amount of energy stolen from them.
I think this makes it clear that the verse has a UE.
Universal Energy Systems
Universal Energy Systems are a fairly common element in fictional stories possessed by certain characters to display incredible feats and powers, often being born out of fantastical or otherwise otherworldly elements such as Magic, Chakra, Chi and a myriad of other possible energy systems. Often...
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Non-physical Energy Systems:
Sen is the energy used in the verse, Tanpo (who has knowledge about the sen itself)says that the Sen is the most precious resource on each dimension.all techniques use the Sen has the principal power for anything, they sometimes just say "Energy" mostly because, well, Sen is energy, Tanpo also mentions that the Do's use Sen energy to be stronger than what they normally are, if they don't have sen energy, the Do's will just be balls completely inert and without power (in episode 3 is shown that, The senkuns needed to charge the Do's with Sen energy, and if they didn't do that, the Do won't be able to hurt the slurks), Sen is also used for machines, like the skimmers need your sen energy to be charged and usable, and the narratives (1th narrative and 3th narrative) state that all technological devices use Sen to be able to fuction in some capacity.
Universal Energy Systems:
Every time the Senkuns get a new armor, their power increases and they get new abilities, even Fenzy stated in episode 40 that she felt faster and stronger while she had the Nero armor, another proof is that Sidmodius (who had alot of energy stored inside of Sestrad Chest) had to absorb the energy from thousands of people from Masara to become stronger, to the point that he is able to one-shot a Senrock completely, and when he used more power, he was strong enough to defeat the Masters of fire and also outspeed them when before, he had difficulty in doing fighting them.It is said in episode 16 that Zak spent all his Sen energy after unsuccessfully trying to use the Sho Sen Fire, and Tanpo says that if they do not control their abilities, they may end up dying, something that was demonstrated a chapter later, when Zak again failed to use the technique, and ended up being so weak that he even had to be carried.
there is also a effect that happens when you are removed from Sen energy, you turn into a Yaki, who is a spirit without Sen, and you need to give them all their energy stolen back by shooting at their core with the same amount of energy stolen from them.
I think this makes it clear that the verse has a UE.
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Yes.
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Great, that means that we can tecnically scale the feat of Chronam-Yatt creating a barrier around her to protect herself from the fortress exploding with all of the sen of stolen from all the dimensions in the multiverse ("all" in this case, means like, thousands of them).
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If it's a common barrier, like one made effortlessly, I think it's okay.
But some techniques don't suit the character's base, like Fenzy's Tai-Sen Star, for example, which makes her faster, not her normal speed.
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there are different types of "defense" abilities in the verse to be specific, but Chronam-Yatt didn't seem to say anything about the name, so it is probably a casual thing, similar to them using their sen to shoot things.
Yeah that is clearly meant to be a amp speed technique for them specifically.
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Also, althought the show didn't state this (but it is implied anyway), in the narratives it is outright stated that techniques like the one's our main characters have, are actually pretty hard to master and only the best warriors can have them.
in the narrative 3th, it is stated that only the royal guards from the queen of deshir can use the level 1 and level 2 techniques, and many characters are impressed when someone uses the level 1 or level 2 techniques (actually, EVERYONE is impressed when Zak uses the Sho sen fire, even Marshal Zorn tells that they all should be careful when he uses it, implying that it is clearly not a common thing that everyone can have or achieve).
remember, some of this warriors have decades of experience, SOME EVEN MILLENIA (Kento can use the koa sen shield, the zet sen shoot and the sho sen fire, and he has more than 20000 years, yet he still considered dangerous for Zak to be able to have the Sho sen fire and that was the thing that damaged his own armor).
in the narrative 3th, it is stated that only the royal guards from the queen of deshir can use the level 1 and level 2 techniques, and many characters are impressed when someone uses the level 1 or level 2 techniques (actually, EVERYONE is impressed when Zak uses the Sho sen fire, even Marshal Zorn tells that they all should be careful when he uses it, implying that it is clearly not a common thing that everyone can have or achieve).
remember, some of this warriors have decades of experience, SOME EVEN MILLENIA (Kento can use the koa sen shield, the zet sen shoot and the sho sen fire, and he has more than 20000 years, yet he still considered dangerous for Zak to be able to have the Sho sen fire and that was the thing that damaged his own armor).
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Well, I have a colleague, @Dragonite007. He's already calculated some orders for me, you can try talking to him.
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i am trying
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got the heights, it is 1,45 meters for Zak, 1,46 meters for Cloe, like around 1,30 meters or so for Kiet, and 1,12 for Fenzy meters for Fenzy.
Okay, with this, i think we can, kinda start to do the calcs right?what calc should we do first and formost?
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Zack destroying the statue. Initial feat that basically everyone scale.
edit: I think that same calculation can be used for speed. I think the attack speed (Zack kicking Do) can be scaled to their combat speed, since during matches they are constantly reacting to each other's passes.
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Yeah there is also times where they dodge shoots from the guns of the Zorn or the cannon's.
Or like, Fenzy making a barrier around the mausoleum of the Belzard before all the shoots reach it (or she is faster than the shoots themselves)
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Honestly, I don't know. I think that based on the characters' heights, it would be good to calculate the height of this Sen-Rock, and then, using the 10:46 image, try to guess the height of the statue?
(7:38) Another good feat to calculate and that basically everyone scale. I also think it can be calculated for LS, since the rock was possibly lifted by hand beforehand.
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man that will be hard, since it is far away and the size is sometimes not that..."consistent" to say the least...if you want you could compare it to the mountain on the background
yeah this could work very well, it could either be Class 5 or class 10
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