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that should be fixed then
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Invincible season 3 discussion
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Why is Martian Man listed as Large Country level?btw here's Martian Mman
Martian Man (TV Series)
Martian Man was a Martian exile who became a superhero on Earth and a founding member of the Guardians of the Globe. He protected humanity until his tragic demise at the hands of Omni-Man. Tier: Low 6-B, likely far higher Name: Martian Man Origin: Invincible Gender: Male Age: Unknown...vsbattles.fandom.com
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If you haven't started on the season 3 CRT, I'll draft one up soon. I just need to revise and get the moon jump feat accepted to upgrade LS. Otherwise there isn't any relevant feats in season 3 that need calculations iirc, other than some miscellaneous feats for like Titan, Liu's bodyguard, and Eve's physicals, though none of them have profiles so it's not urgent.Now I've got to acknowldge him in the current one
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I gotta keep working on my in-verse scaling/5-A revision come to think of it
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sorry i meant to say small countryWhy is Martian Man listed as Large Country level?
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The 5-A Tech Jacket feat just got accepted. I also found some scans that would allow us to directly downscale/upscale characters from Tech Jacket. Like TJ being thousands of times stronger than other geldarians, and pre-powerup Allen being stronger than most of the universe should upscale them. I'll send later when I have more time.
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The Infinity Ray is stated to be able to destroy anything in the universe, noting planets and stars in Nolan's book, along with it repeatedly being able to pierce through Viltrumites like butter, with Nolan being weary about being hit by it. And all this weapon could do alone was destabilize the core of Viltrum. This heavily implies Viltrum has an abnormal durability. Thaddeus was also the only one worried about flying through the planet, and when they eventually did they were pretty much unscathed (other than their costumes being partially vaporized/torn off. Then if you factor in the plethora of other statements hinting at Viltrumite tier or even weaker characters being around planet level and Robert Kirkman's many statements that Invincible or Viltrumites can destroy/crush planets easily, there really shouldn't be a hard cap at planet level for most of the verse, especially if there are enough feats eclipsing that level of power.
Also a few months ago there was a crt trying to upgrade the verse to 5-A just off of applying ke to the Viltrum bust and the staff came to the consensus that we shouldn't assume timeframes for ke in this case with s4 being so soon, but there wasn't any pushback about upgrading them above 5-B in general.
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Nah I already have almost a full draft myself, tho it may be modified depending on what the revised calculations end up yielding. Were Mark's moon jump and nuke-explosion calculations accepted ?
It'd more accurate to say it's an "Up to Season 3" CRT, it covers pretty much all of TV side. Tho I also am currently adjusting to some changes in my life so I may be a bit absent.
Durability-wise I could see that for him but certainly not AP lol, he would've joined in to attack Omni-Man if that was the case instead of acting like a rubber bandWhy is Martian Man listed as Large Country level?
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That would most likely put him way above the viltrumite baseline we have tho, which he isn't meant to approach at all
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Thragg doesn't imply this is a limit for the Viltrumites though. If someone says that a nuke could demolish a building, that doesn't make the nuke 8-C. Also DC vs A.P and all that
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The Nuke feat was accepted but the moon jump has some problems. If someone could @ Jason Courne that would be nice. If not I can make my own blog fixing the calculation. Also if you're busy I can manage the CRT during that time probably.
Keyword baseline. Plus TJ is already above that baseline at small planet level.
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@Jason_Courne You have been summoned
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Checked the updated version, but is the GPE or KE accepted ? I think he means the low-ends of KE. I'd like to know to update my draft accordingly
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Yeah that the general application of kinetic energy was acceptable, and the low ends is preferred
So Mark should scale to the 2 exatons end
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Done, though I would hold on the LS upgrades from this, as even Tech Jacket's Class P upgrade faced a lot of scrutiny for a clear cut throw while TV Mark is not even pushing anything. Same with TV Omni-Man's statement of redirecting the texas-sized asteroid which is why it's bizarrely indexed as it is right now, with one of the arguments being it was far higher than anything in the verse at that time
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Could Black Samson and Robot's Heavy Drone deforming flaxan mechs yield anything above numerical class LS ?
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Okay, I made a blog post detailing all the chain scaling. I would like to hear what everyone thinks before I come out guns blazing with a crt lol.
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So, if I'm getting it right, the main idea is dividing Tech Jacket's profile more keys and who scales to each ? On principle I'll agree to that, specially how it's explained in his same comic that he'll get stronger through usage and his body developing
Also, iirc a statement like "thousands of time stronger" gives leeway to even a 3000x boost
A couple details tho:
Though similar in design, those are not the Kresh but a completely different race. They're meant to be completely defeated by Tech Jacket Vol 2 until they're brought back for Vol 4 as a way to go full-circle
While it's true weaponry could've made their planet inhospitable(though contamination is just as likely), the fact that it's still there means it can't be that high into Tier 5 if at all. It more than likely was something similar to the hypothetical nuclear war scenarios between world powers, where the planet is rendered inhospitable due to radiation/aftermath rather than sheer destruction.
Also as I said above, the chainscale as it wants to be implemented would make all High 6-B, which includes Bulletproof and Tether Tyrant, planet-busters...
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I just went with the minimum of 2000x, if the standard on site is 3000x then I can change it.
Oh, I always thought they were the same race TwT. I'll take anything pertaining to them off then.A couple details tho:
Though similar in design, those are not the Kresh but a completely different race. They're meant to be completely defeated by Tech Jacket Vol 2 until they're brought back for Vol 4 as a way to go full-circle
Well as I explained on the blog, their planet has a higher gravity which would make it more massive and have a higher GBE than Earth, along with the other info that may make their planet a Gas Giant, which would make inhospitality or destroying the planet much more impressive. I said weaponry was likely due to them being very militaristic in nature (being sponsored by the Viltrum Empire even) but yes contamination is possible too.
Yea... the chainscale does get a little crazy. To be fair if ke was used they would be High 6-A, which would make the gap less egregious, but yea I see your point. To be fair, early series mark level characters aren't really capped to being below a certain tier. As long as they're below Viltrumites inverse wise, there isn't any feats hard feats capping them anywhere really, so if Viltrumites aren't bound by a 5-B cap, there's nothing saying weaker characters can't reach 5-B.
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I'm not very well versed with this kind of feat, so I'm not sure. I've seen crushing rock getting to Class M, so these might be Class 50-100 or Class K.
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It's mostly a matter of narrative scale. That's why for example JJK's Black Flash multiplier is currently rejected over not being consistent with the scale which the verse/those characters operate
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Also merry christmas to you all and thanks for your continuous efforts to improve the verse
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Merry Christmas! and thanks for carrying most of the inverse scaling crt's on your back lol
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You're welcome. I'll legit celebrate when I publish the final CRT (which may not even be that final since we're getting new comic stuff
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hello everyone, i've come here only to congratulate you all for your upgrades and calcs and to note that the Viltrum Empire's page seems......extremely outdated.
Are there plans to fix it anytime soon or are there more pressing matters?
Curious
Are there plans to fix it anytime soon or are there more pressing matters?
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The verse has several terrible profiles. Hell, the verse page itself is pretty bad, why is The Emperor categorized as "Other Species" ? He's just an alternate version of Brit.
Yes, I have a draft revising pretty much everyone who isn't Tier 5 (and even then some of those are going to also be revised, like Viltrum Empire), it's going little by little since well it's a lot of stuff. There are also other CRTs about individual stats (namely Comic Speed and Space Racer's 4-C) I'd like to do before that one
I would have moved on to posting the Season 3 CRT if my current one wasn't missing a mod vote and Chariot190 didn't sort of forget to comment
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Does anyone know a source for this ?
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Most notable change from this would be this calc getting nerfed due to Thragg's size. Sort of related to that, we have a reference sheet of the 3D viltrumite warship used in the show. Only one really affected by this would be Tech Jacket but still, for accuracy sake
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once the CRT is done we should probably make a "Viltrumite Physiology" page
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If we do that then the only abilities they would have listed besides it would be Telepathy and Martial Arts lol. It's fine as it is.
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Haven't checked here in a while, is the CRT for season 3 or more comic stuff?
Also I feel like a Viltrumite Physiology page is unnecessary, there are just far too few abilities to really justify a whole page for them, than just copy pasting it on each profile
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