Alright
What stops Kai from cutting him down with the Sword of Fire
That doesn't stop Kai from shooting him as he got the AP advantage here
Well by throwing the hammer like this, he could still overpower Kai
So what if he has CM1? He legit getting roasted to bits by Kai's fire too
Thor has Probably Manipulation so can make sure that Kai's doesn't hit and his own does and since his attack has cm1 which kai doesn't resistance then its one shot and Thor has soul manipulation which think Kai also has no resistance against. My vote goes to Thor for this reasons.
His probability Manip can't do any of that? It just affects luck
Kai resist Soul corruption, and Thor's Soul Hax is just about inflicting soul damage
How does this count as a valid vote? Thor cannot "make sure that Kai doesn't hit him" at all
Even that is countered by Kai's huge AP gap
Yeah
Kai scales to more universes than him tho
Well the fact Thor can paralyze Kai and has soul damage is still relevant
Kai can overpower his lightning blast from a range and he has good Acrobatics/Mobility in case Thor decides to fly. He's also the smarter combatant
Universes are like 2-C.
No cuz Kai scales to several Low 1-C structures while Thor scale to 1 so Kai scales far above him
Yeah but can't Kai dodge the hammer?
Heavily reliant on him shooting up Kai while avoiding his fire stuff
I'm pretty sure Thor can control where it goes.
Well you can argue he can blast it throught sheer AP like Kratos did with the Leviathan ish
He could but if it pins him somewhere then what?
Well to prevent pinning, he can blast it away and then blast Thor to death. Thor likes to fight at close range so its at Kai's advantage
Kai might asw just create big explosions and kill him
Does it normally do that as a first move?
His attacks generates explosions when thrown so yeah. He also attacked Acronix by trying to blow him as a first move
Im pretty sure he'll get burned by the fire
No, he is not baseline. He scales to the Overlord, who scales to the 17 Realms, which each of them being a 5D strucures, making him scale to 17 5-D structures
No Resistance to resist neg and Kai has a massive AP advantage above him. Mjolnir can also be counter by Kai's AP like said above
Then put that on Kai's profile, so it's not saying one 5-D hypertimeline. What it says is that it can destroy all realms, and then points out Ninjago itself has a 5-D hypertimeline.
oh wow, burning on a man who gets his guts rearranged and is more pissed off than anything else. I'm sure that won't get smashed with lightning, stunned, and beat to hell.
He no-sells hellfire imbued attacks.
Its better explained if you go on the linked cosmology page
He wouldn't be able to just tank his AP outpout
Kai bypass Fire resistances tho
That words better.
And Kai would be stunned looking like a dunce while Thor beats him a few times over the head with Mjolnir and breaks his soul cause no layered Resistance lol
So do the Blades of Chaos. They're layered. They literally light in a realm that snuffs all flame.
Like I said before, Kai would just shoot him from a range? They start at 10m and Kai won't just stand here and wait for Thor to come
Cool, but the AP alone would still one shot Thor just like his CM would
So Mjolnir gets thrown or Thor hits it on the ground. He's got plenty of range too, in fact he opens with Mjonir throws most of the time.
No, it wouldn't. 17 universes is cool and all, but it's just "AP advantage", not "one-shot". Unquantifiable be like that.
I don't want to go circular but was not already addressed here? ↓
Flies upwards or shoot an exploding beam
Kai can also just blow him away with Hundreds of Meters wide attacks
Yes it would. Scaling to 17 infinite 5-D structures are infinitely above a single one
I was talking about Thor's CM hitting Kai
Mjolnir is it's own entity. It can literally circle around three times and bonk Kai on the head. If Thor throws Mjolnir, it hits.
Flying up into the lightning is a piss poor idea.
And Thor can throw his hammer once and eat the fire.
Quantify the difference between one and two universes in a 2-C sense please.
You know I was about to say Thor's CM needs multiple hits to kill someone without resistance but it kinda doesn't, thinking back on it.
Thor himself has no way of avoiding such huge attacks. Even if he tries flying away, nothing would stop Kai from following and attacking both
Then he'd just dodge the lightning? I don't get your point
The blast would just overpower the hammer along with him tbh
No amount of a finite multiplier or amp from someone scaling to 3 universes would reach someone scaling to 4 universes, unless he can infinitely amp himself to the lvls of 4 universes
Just gonna point down, but chances are the hammer bonks him.
AoE.
BTW can I have Kai's fights in this key, just to find his first move. Cause if it's talking like a dipshit or not AoEing *******...
So you can't explain it, "It just is"... okay then, we're at an impass.
