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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

ElJoaki5 said:
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Idk what to tell you. It's just like that. The airburst formula is an algebraic re-arrengement of a formula for calculating the blast radius but the blast isn't the "fireball" which you measured. The blast ig is what we would call the shockwave.

"Blast effect is a volume effect. The blast wave deposits energy in the material it passes through, including air. When the blast wave passes through solid material, the energy left behind causes damage. When it passes through air it simply grows weaker. The more matter the energy travels through, the smaller the effect"
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It's just too much of a hassle for me to go find a proper formula for the maximum luminous fireball radius formula since it's probably not breakaway. I only did a rough calculation from formulas I found rather quickly and cross referencing with different nuclear calculators to see if it was in the correct order of magnitude. Here's my version of the calc and though I would argue completing the circle to measure properly is sound if we are gonna treat it as a spherical shaped explosion anyways... using your own measurements would still leave it in the megaton range. I didn't really make my blog with the intent of it being used tho so.

Then again the option to wank and say the people of Virginia got converted into nuclear energy for the nuclear punch is always there. 🔥
 
What id we ignore that inconsistent barem statement(I SWEAR im not a darkness glazer. I swear on Eljoaks CGM privileges)
 
ElJoaki5 said:
Ive cleaned it up by taking into account the swords mass isnt equivalent to the states mass. We should just consider it large island level.
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Also, for this. I really have no idea what the logic behind treating it as fragmentation when that's just not what happens. Just because it's lower doesn't mean it's more accurate. Have you thought about calculating it using compressive force? I know it might be complicated due to shapes but any assumptions done there or slight adjustment would be far more accurate than arbitrary treating it as fragmentation.
 
I was thinking about doing an aki vs hairo (kimetsu no yaiba) who's the former lower moon 2 that uses guns as blood demon art, cuz you know, I'd be aki vs a gun demon

They both have similar scaling from AP and speed (althought with the rejected angel calc aki may had a downgrade) but I also think about how hairo is not that popular of a kimetsu no yaiba character for people to be interested in that match, he only appeared in rengoku gaiden

I'd use post ambush aki who has angels katana and can see to the future (I think gun fiend aki would be too much for Hairo) and hairo is just the standard one

What do you all think about this match?
 
yall got any free link for the digital release? I ain't using the Malaysia version

I found it, but dang, frame scaling on pirate web is gonna be annoying as heck

Angel attack speed incoming btw
 
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GunshyFever said:
I'd suggest waiting on the movie crt first
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Too be fair, its better to have the eggs (benefits of calculations) before the CRT (basket), since it'd allow the scaling to be done quicker then it'd be, of course, no CRT to apply the calculations until the movie canonicity CRT comes, but it's good to have a rough idea on where they'd land generally through the calculations
 
PhantomØ4 said:
Wouldn't using the blood staying there mid air ever so slightly dropping be better than guesstimating Reze at subsonic?
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Nor really, or more like not that I know how
PhantomØ4 said:
The perspective shot for the building measurement is also definitely slightly skewed but it's a 4 story building so the measurement would not change much me thinks.
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I eyed it to be around the same height when I first did the rough calc, so I went with the 14 something meters height.

Man, angsizing really just doesn't work for this one.
 
Uh, the part where Denji turns Typhoon into a bloody typhoon, do yall think it's beam moving that fast, or it's just Typhoon spinning so fast?

Cause if it's the latter then I got a good way to get Typhoon's spinning speed.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Uh, the part where Denji turns Typhoon into a bloody typhoon, do yall think it's beam moving that fast, or it's just Typhoon spinning so fast?

Cause if it's the latter then I got a good way to get Typhoon's spinning speed.
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I think there's other scenes that plays the Typhoon's spinning speed in the movie, but I'd wager the typhoon spinning so fast can be a high end to the feat itself
 
MusicRelaxing said:
I think there's other scenes that plays the Typhoon's spinning speed in the movie, but I'd wager the typhoon spinning so fast can be a high end to the feat itself
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The other scenes doesn't show any object I could take to calc the spinning speed, or well, at least 2 scenes I could think of where Typhoon swings its intestine. The objects around it were spinning far slower than it, and in some scene Typhoon is spinning far slower than some other scenes.

I'd wager the blood tornado scene to be the best bet, but it'd be a lot of works to get that working tbh

Also, Hypersonic torpedo Reze is a bust, the calc stays at about supersonic+ and I don't think it really scales to anyone.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
The other scenes doesn't show any object I could take to calc the spinning speed, or well, at least 2 scenes I could think of where Typhoon swings its intestine. The objects around it were spinning far slower than it, and in some scene Typhoon is spinning far slower than some other scenes.

I'd wager the blood tornado scene to be the best bet, but it'd be a lot of works to get that working tbh

Also, Hypersonic torpedo Reze is a bust, the calc stays at about supersonic+ and I don't think it really scales to anyone.
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Oof.
I think the blood one is the best, isn't there a bunch of other feats in the movie? One comes to mind is Reze bullet timing her own explosions and viewing them slowly (smells like MHS, don't know how this would scale to people nor do I think it'd fly here im ngl) and the big explosion that already kind of got calced already
 
Can anyone calc the AP and LS of Typhoon's tornado (in before it's by hax and not physical)
 
PhantomØ4 said:
Also, for this. I really have no idea what the logic behind treating it as fragmentation when that's just not what happens. Just because it's lower doesn't mean it's more accurate. Have you thought about calculating it using compressive force? I know it might be complicated due to shapes but any assumptions done there or slight adjustment would be far more accurate than arbitrary treating it as fragmentation.
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Fragmentation here. It fragments first and then compresses
 
GunshyFever said:
Cool, try pushing for the Hypersonic+ end, the feat scales to galgali and in turn the Gun Fiend. Making them remain > Kishibe as well as the 20% Gun.
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Obviously Reze and the Goat Galgali outscales.

Anyways, Torpedo Reze should be a special case, no one really scales to it, not even casual Reze, this is like Reze with explosion feat, or might just be Reze with torpedo.

It reached HH to HH+ now, touching goatana's feat, which tbh, sounds just like how it should be, cause Reze kept blitzing Denji
 
Bruh said:
Can anyone calc the AP and LS of Typhoon's tornado (in before it's by hax and not physical)
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Maybe I'm not the brightest but when I look at how he does his tornado stuff it looks like he uses his intestines to rotate and create it so I don't that should be hax but idk🤷🏿‍♂️
 
So basically the scale chain is kinda like this:

Kishibe (casual kick) < Gun Devil 20% (manga feat and casual movement speed over large distance) < Reze's movement speed with explosions over a decent distance with short burst < Goatana's dash with extremely short distance

sounds about right, no?
 
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