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[High 8-C Creature Tournament] Undyne the Undying vs Tarkatan Xenomorph

Following. I'm only knowledgeable on the Tarkatan Xenomorph, so I can't say much yet.
 
Are they taking turns like in Undertale or fighting like actual people? If its the latter then the Xenomorph is gonna kick her teeth in since its superior to every Base character in Mortal Kombat X in fighting prowess and the Tarkatan Xenomorph is even more skilled in actual fighting than the other versions of it. On top of that, the Xeno can also spawn the Queen out of literally nowhere behind Undyne and have it one-shot her.
 
So Undyne is basically the stronger one here in both striking strength and lifting strength, so attempting to grab her won't do much here.

Seeing that this is yet another typical fighting game character, I'd expect that Alien's going to go for physical attacks more often, but Undyne has plenty of ranged attacks in the form of spear danmaku that's difficult to dodge, not to mention how she can straight up turn Alien's SOUL green to freeze its body in place as she throws more spears at it.

Combined with her being smarter in general, as well as the fact that she's sparred with Asgore plenty of times in base form, Alien will have some trouble here.
 
I think Undyne takes this, she can immobilize the Xenomorph via hax and then spam spears. This is in character for her and gets around the acid.
 
Any fight with the MK Xenomorph is never a 1v1, it'll always be either a 1v2 or 1v4 if its the Konjurer Xenomorph since it still has the Queen summon but can also just summon another Xenomorph to help it and summon a Facehugger Egg to attack the opponent.
 
Any fight with the MK Xenomorph is never a 1v1, it'll always be either a 1v2 or 1v4 if its the Konjurer Xenomorph since it still has the Queen summon but can also just summon another Xenomorph to help it and summon a Facehugger Egg to attack the opponent.
This is Tarkatan xeno. The only summons he has is the queen summon which is a fatality move.
Granted, he doesn't have the LS or the AP advantage so he can't really do the inner jaw thing that he be doing/
 
This is Tarkatan xeno. The only summons he has is the queen summon which is a fatality move.
Granted, he doesn't have the LS or the AP advantage so he can't really do the inner jaw thing that he be doing/
The only thing stopping it from summoning her whenever it wants is the gameplay mechanics. If the Konjurer variant can literally summon regular Xenos and eggs whenever it wants then why would the same not apply to the Queen?
 
If the Konjurer variant can literally summon regular Xenos and eggs whenever it wants then why would the same not apply to the Queen?
Never said that he couldn't, I only said that's the only thing he has in this variation.
So granted if worst comes to worst, prob just ends up making it the queen's problem.
 
Doesn't the Tarkatan Xenomorph have Baraka's spark projectile thing since it has all of his moves but with added Xenomorph flair? That could help mitigate the range problem. Also if Green SOUL mode happens then that also gives the Xenomorph that little shield thing Frisk gets, meaning it could just use that to get around the Danmaku spam considering it's rather skilled in combat, especially since blocking attacks isn't exactly a foreign concept to it since it can do that in the game.
 
Nope. Xeno is agile as hell tho so he can def close that distance and chop em up.
Huh, could've sworn it did. Oh well, the Green Mode won't last forever, Undyne never let's it last forever even against Genocide Route Frisk who she has every reason to want to want to stop at all costs, and even then it still provides that shield thing the Xeno can protect itself with. Also Green Mode doesn't stop it from attacking since Frisk can still attack Undyne while in it. Also also, she's not gonna be dodging any attacks since its kind of a canonical thing that Sans is the only Monster that dodges attacks and is even called out by him.
 
Huh, could've sworn it did. Oh well, the Green Mode won't last forever, Undyne never let's it last forever even against Genocide Route Frisk who she has every reason to want to want to stop at all costs, and even then it still provides that shield thing the Xeno can protect itself with. Also Green Mode doesn't stop it from attacking since Frisk can still attack Undyne while in it. Also also, she's not gonna be dodging any attacks since its kind of a canonical thing that Sans is the only Monster that dodges attacks and is even called out by him.
So a rushdown and mincemeat is all I'm hearing.
This may be a high diff for Alien then. Monsters don't dodge attacks which will prove to be Undyne's downfall.
 
Should mention that Undyne's SOUL dura neg means she's going to kill the Xenomorph in far less hits what it'd be required for her AP, around 4 or so hits (Probably less cause Undying is scales significantly over the Xenomorph's value too).
That doesn't really matter much with the whole shield thing going on, especially when there's a second opponent who will literally spawn on top of Undyne from behind at the drop of a hat if the Xenomorph just hisses at her.
 
it Was cool to have a debate for five seconds.

I still kinda feel like Undyne could kill him before he thinks to summon the queen in the first place with crazy danmaku that cuts up his soul. I’d still rather vote for that.
 
it Was cool to have a debate for five seconds.

I still kinda feel like Undyne could kill him before he thinks to summon the queen in the first place with crazy danmaku that cuts up his soul. I’d still rather vote for that.
Undyne literally opens with Green Mode so that unironically kind of screws her over here, especially since her attacks in Green Mode are a lot more predictable than they are normally aside from the backwards attacks, but again that doesn't prevent the Xeno from just screaming and causing a giant bladed tail to stab right through Undyne's back even if ends up dead by the end of it. This is either a hard fought Xeno W or a draw at worst.
 
In all fairness, Undyne's attacks aren't just going straight; they can go omnidirectionally in a way that she can potentially handle more than one opponent around her, so she should be able to deal with the Xenomorph's support just fine.

That combined with SOUL manipulation could mean that Undyne has the potential to end the fight faster before Xenomorph can land its acid to kill her, so I'd vote for Undyne for that, even if it means this fight won't be easy.
 
In all fairness, Undyne's attacks aren't just going straight; they can go omnidirectionally in a way that she can potentially handle more than one opponent around her, so she should be able to deal with the Xenomorph's support just fine.

That combined with SOUL manipulation could mean that Undyne has the potential to end the fight faster before Xenomorph can land its acid to kill her, so I'd vote for Undyne for that, even if it means this fight won't be easy.
You're thinking of one single attack she has where she summons a ring of spears. She would have to exclusively spam that attack to do what you're saying and that might not even be possible since she can't use that attack in Green SOUL Mode.
 
And again, even ignoring literally all of that, Undyne just will not dodge the Xeno's attacks because its out of character. Literally only Sans does it.
 
You're thinking of one single attack she has where she summons a ring of spears. She would have to exclusively spam that attack to do what you're saying and that might not even be possible since she can't use that attack in Green SOUL Mode.
That's the attack I'm referring to (The ring of spears). Also, her not being able to do that could most likely be the result of game mechanics, especially if she's fighting multiple characters here where one of them can have their SOUL turned green while everyone else's SOUL is normal.

Even then, considering the size of these Xenomorphs and the SOUL's small size when it's dodging the spears, dodging the spears would still be difficult if they have never experienced danmaku attacks before.
 
That's the attack I'm referring to (The ring of spears). Also, her not being able to do that could most likely be the result of game mechanics, especially if she's fighting multiple characters here where one of them can have their SOUL turned green while everyone else's SOUL is normal.
Game Mechanics. In the game where every mechanic is canon. Acknowledged even outright. Sure.
Even then, considering the size of these Xenomorphs and the SOUL's small size when it's dodging the spears, dodging the spears would still be difficult if they have never experienced danmaku attacks before.
The Tarkatan Xenomorph isn't like exceptionally large, it's a little bigger than a normal person and even then this thing is extremely agile and the fight takes place in a town, this thing is gonna crawling and jumping off of walls like crazy. The regular MKX characters do that kind of stuff on the regular in fights so the creature literally purpose built for this kind of stuff is gonna be even better at it, especially since it has attacks specifically design to abuse its agility. God forbid it decides to try the stealth approach on Undyne since we've seen how she handles people sneaking around literally in front of her. Also also, again, summoning the Queen on top of her to just stab her in the back.
 
Pretty sure that there is a gun character out there who can legit spam guns and shit so theres that.
You're thinking of Erron Black. He's good enough to literally ricochet his own bullets off of the bones inside of the people he's shooting and he was put down by the Xenomorphs either way.
 
You're thinking of Erron Black. He's good enough to literally ricochet his own bullets off of the bones inside of the people he's shooting and he was put down by the Xenomorphs either way.
Also.. Raiden.
Yeah those spears are not going to be trouble for Alien at all.
 
Doesn't undyne just... hang there?
She legit doesn't dodge or do anything.. she's just hangs there. That kinda just ***** her.
Doesn't she or other monsters talk about her dodging magic? Her not dodging in her battle might be the literal only point in time someone can argue game mechanics when it comes to undertale.
 
I don't really care about this match much but i did want to clarify that the "shield" Frisk gets is actually just another spear Undyne gave them to fend off the bullets, meaning it's also not like an automatic shield or anything and Frisk (and presumably anyone else put into Green Mode) had/has to use the spear skillfully enough to actually block the bullets.
Doesn't she or other monsters talk about her dodging magic? Her not dodging in her battle might be the literal only point in time someone can argue game mechanics when it comes to undertale.
As for this, i don't really have time to scrub through the text dump but you might be thinking of the scene where Undyne talks about she couldn't land a single hit on Asgore when she was younger, so monsters can in-fact dodge it's not like a universal rule that they can't. Ultimately you can decide to chalk up enemies not dodging in battle to game mechanics and/or character reasons (Undyne's weird sense of chivalry, Asgore's self-loathing and guilt etc etc)
 
I don't really care about this match much but i did want to clarify that the "shield" Frisk gets is actually just another spear Undyne gave them to fend off the bullets, meaning it's also not like an automatic shield or anything and Frisk (and presumably anyone else put into Green Mode) had/has to use the spear skillfully enough to actually block the bullets.
Then she would still give one to the Xenomorph too since she did it with Genocide Frisk despite despising them and trying to stop them from ending the world.
As for this, i don't really have time to scrub through the text dump but you might be thinking of the scene where Undyne talks about she couldn't land a single hit on Asgore when she was younger, so monsters can in-fact dodge it's not like a universal rule that they can't. Ultimately you can decide to chalk up enemies not dodging in battle to game mechanics and/or character reasons (Undyne's weird sense of chivalry, Asgore's self-loathing and guilt etc etc)
That still means Undyne won't be dodging since we have proof that she doesn't dodge in every version of her fight.
 
I mean Undyne doesn’t just do green mode she’s also thrown spears at Frisk outside of an actual in game fight. There’s a whole chase sequence where she’s trying to just merc that kid.

Idk how relevant that is for this but I do think it should be considered.
 
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