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Godzilla: Showa Era Cleanups

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I happened to be looking through a lot of the Showa era profiles the other day, and it’s come to my attention that a lot of them have lacking justifications, stuff that probably shouldn’t be on the profiles to begin with, or are missing things that need to be there. So, in this thread, I’m going to address them.

This thread was originally going to be longer and propose more changes (for example, downgrading the speed and LS of Godzilla’s first two keys since he shouldn’t be scaling to Ghidorah at that point, and downgrading KKvG Godzilla and Kong to half of their current AP values, among other things), but I was told the supporters are already working on them, so I’ll leave them be for now.

With that said, let’s get into the changes:
Starting with the big man himself, and his Raids Again key, his Attack Potency justification doesn’t exactly explain why his physicals scale above the Original Godzilla’s Atomic Breath. I want to add an explanation for that.
This should be added to Godzilla’s attack potency justification, and the latter feat should be added to Anguirus’ durability.

Next, his stamina justification needs work. Every one of his keys has the same stamina justification of “Has shown to be able to run and fight for long periods”, but I don’t think that’s entirely accurate for his first key. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t recall Godzilla doing a lot of running in Raids Again. I would change that to something like this:
Can engage in prolonged combat with Anguirus.

Now, for Godzilla’s second key, he has this line:
has fought with and defeated numerous Kaiju including first-generation Mothra.
I might be nitpicking a bit here, but has he? Up to this point, he’s only fought Anguirus, Kong, Mothra and her larva, and he only soundly defeated Anguirus. He stalemated Kong at best, only defeated an old and dying Mothra (and she was pretty blatantly overpowering him until the end), and then he straight up lost to her two larva. I wouldn’t say he’s “defeated numerous Kaiju”, and I definitely wouldn’t include Mothra in that justification considering how weakened she was.

And for his third key, his “Post-Training” stats really should be another key. He trained and got a significant increase in stats, that warrants a new key. His third key should be renamed to “Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster to Godzilla vs. Megalon” and his post-training stats would go into a new key called “End of Zone Fighter”.

That’s it for Showa Godzilla, but as a bonus, OG Godzilla has an At least rating for his Below Average Human speed, that needs to be removed as well. The justification for that rating comes from Godzilla himself, there’s literally no reason for him to have an At least.
I feel like the Queen is kinda being disrespected-

Her AP justification mentions that a “prime” Imago Mothra knocked Godzilla down with a tackle, but the Mothra in MvG wasn’t in her prime. She was old and dying throughout the entire movie, so the mention of her being in her prime needs to be removed.

Her first key needs speed justifications, because right now, it has literally none. Now, I don’t know where the Subsonic+ on land rating comes from, but for her flight speed and reactions, she should be scaling to Godzilla since she dodges multiple blasts of the Atomic Breath.

Lastly, her lifting strength. In addition to her current justification, she was able to grab Godzilla by the tail and drag him around, despite Godzilla visibly struggling against her.
Very simple here, KKE!Kong is only scaling to 48.95 Teratons despite being stronger than KKvG!Kong, who scales much higher.
 
OP looks fine to me.

If this thread gets accepted, as usual I will make the updates, as after all I have experience applying Godzilla CRTs, and I would like to take care of the pages that I created by myself.
 
Alright, that’s two staff approvals and Grace passed a while ago. These can be applied now.
 
Hmmmmm.... I don't agree with certain things, tho.

Why did you add the stats at the end of each AP section? For example, you added the 234.16 Teratons near a High 6-C calculation. I prefer the stats to be near their calculations, not at the end of each AP section.

I prefer at the end personally. It looks much nicer, and it gives the impression that its the character overall and not the feat's value when its at the end.
 
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