General Grievous vs Kamen Rider Shin: Bugged In Space!!! (7-0-2) GRACE STARTED

[Shadowslash125]

I see General Grievous matchups being spammed like wildfire.

Spoiler: THE STORY

General Grievous tilts his head at an unexpected intruder. "A weird creature... How did you get here?
This thing he has never seen before has somehow appeared in front of his very eyes. In a place packed with soldiers that would answer his heed and call. "Raargh," this man groans, standing up without much issue. His tone makes him sound puzzled at his own predicament

"Hmph, no matter. I will end you where you stand."

Shin has no choice but to fend for his life here and now.

Keys and Versions used:​

Pre-Dai-Shocker Kamen Rider Shin (8-A) & Default General Grievous (8-A).

Location:​

Utapau. Starting Distance is 15 meters.

Battle Conditions:​

• Both are in character, but willing to win.
• Win Condition is by any means necessary, so killing is not off the table.
• Speed is NOT equalized
• Standard Equipment Only
• Everything else unmentioned will be according to SBA

Votings:​

THE MUSIC:

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Combatants​	Votings​
4-Armed Menace To Society:	@Doggo, @noninho, @TegamiBachi25, @OrangeFR, @Jamesthetaker, @Shadowslash125, @Ms.Luzifer
One Buggy Boi:
:	@Stillwinston, @BERRIES555,

 

[Arkansalter2]

What's Tycoon's wincons? We all know Grevious right about now (saber stuffs).

 

[BERRIES555]

Literally, every single Geats match will end up having Spark Manipulation equalize physical stats. This fight comes down to each fighters skills, versatility, and other tertiary factors.

For skill, while Grievous is a highly stilled fighter, he’s sadly up against someone who’s within the top 10, possibly too 5, most skilled Riders in all of Kamen Rider. As for versatility, Keiwa kinda clears. Elemental attack, duplication, teleportation, substitution. Grievous can’t really compete

 

[Shadowslash125]

Probably should get the supporters before coming to that judgement tho.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Probably should get the supporters before coming to that judgement tho.

@Stillwinston @Ms.Luzifer if you want to come to their walls

 

[Shadowslash125]

It has been done.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

yeah.... I'm not that good at arguing for my fav.

try sending this to the general star wars discussion

 

[DaReaperMan]

Is this one of the skill God riders? If so, switch off Grievous.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Is this one of the skill God riders? If so, switch off Grievous.

Is this guy a better opponent for him? He ain't le skill god.

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[DaReaperMan]

Is this guy a better opponent for him? He ain't le skill god.

Kamen Rider Shin

Shin Kazamatsuri (風祭 真, Kazamatsuri Shin) is the main protagonist of the movie Shin Kamen Rider: Prologue. Transforming into Kamen Rider Shin (仮面ライダーシン, Kamen Raidā Shin, Masked Rider Shin), a Cyborg Soldier Level 3 (改造兵士レベル3, Kaizou Heishi Reberu Surī) mutant, Shin eventually finds himself...

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Dunno. All I know is the skill gods are NOT fit for a match with non-legends Star Wars. And even Legends skill god-tiers might have some problems.

Star Wars is good, it isn't THAT good.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Welp, changing opponents then.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Changed

 

[Shadowslash125]

bump

 

[Doggo]

Both can dura neg each other. Grevious regularly fights people with precog, so that is not an issue. Shin's info analysis might help him a bit

This seems to be a skill match and Grevious seems to be better here

 

[Shadowslash125]

Both can dura neg each other. Grevious regularly fights people with precog, so that is not an issue. Shin's info analysis might help him a bit

This seems to be a skill match and Grevious seems to be better here

I did hear that Jedi precog is different from how most precog are portrayed or some shit.
Also shin does have low-mid regen, he can regain limbs.

 

[Shadowslash125]

bump

 

[Stillwinston]

I did hear that Jedi precog is different from how most precog are portrayed or some shit.
Also shin does have low-mid regen, he can regain limbs.

Grevious will go for a decap/slice him up into pieces in character iirc, he's also more than willing to play dirty and cheat and use bystanders as meat shields if need be. Also looking at Shin's design he unironically would fit in with the sw aliens so Greviou's approach prolly won't change much.

Looking over Shin's profile I'm gonna vote Incon here, Grevious has the skill advantage from the looks of it (Dooku taught him all 7 forms and most jedi/sith ever only truly learn 1 maybe 2 forms in their careers etc) and one good swing from his 4 arms ends it. While Shin also has dura neg and instinctive action that might help him avoid being turned to sashimi but only has 2 arms.

 

[BERRIES555]

I think incon works. Both can easily kill the other with little effort. Grievous has skill by a mile while Shin’s precog will allow him to easily dodge and counterattack.

Incon FRA

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I did hear that Jedi precog is different from how most precog are portrayed or some shit.

It works like this.

He'd taken barely five steps when his peripheral vision spotted the men in the two vehicles farthest from each other slide blasters from their holsters. He took one more step, settling his mind and body into combat awareness ...
Double vision: the Force showing him the present overlaid with a glimpse of a moment into the future-two blaster bolts coming from the drivers of the two vehicles-the first scoring into his upper chest, the second into his lower side-
With a snap-hiss his lightsaber blade blazed into existence-
He swung the blue blade against the first bolt, then the second, and paused.
For perhaps two seconds no one moved. Then, as if on signal, the other seven snatched their blasters from their holsters and opened fire-
Double vision: blaster bolts coming at torso, at side, at head, at
side-the Force speeding his perception, slowing down time-moving his hands in a blur-no longer deflecting bolts away, but sending them back to their points of origin-
Thrawn: Alliances

Double vision: the Darshi feinting left, then swinging his stick from the right-
The attacker staggered back, twisting around from the impact as Vader slapped him hard across the side of his head with his lightsaber hilt.
Not the blade. Only the hilt. If Thrawn could take on three opponents with just a stick, so could Vader.
Double vision: stick jabbing at his helmet-
Vader swung his lightsaber, deflecting the attack, then jabbed the end hard into the center of the alien's chest.
Double vision: slapping blows against helmet and right forearm from the remaining two Darshi-
A complete waste of their time, of course, combat sticks against body armor. But Vader allowed the attack, letting the blows land without effect, luring them into moving within range of counterattack. Two more quick jabs with his lightsaber, and they had joined their companions on the floor.
Thrawn: Alliances, Chapter Eight, Page 210

Double vision: bolt coming at right shoulder-
He looked at the three backups, swinging their blasters toward him. He brought up his left hand, catching the bolt on his palm, feeling a brief rise in heat as the energy expended itself against the armored glove.
Double vision: bolts coming at chest, at helmet-
He reached out to the Force, tweaking the attackers' blasters a couple of degrees to the sides, just far enough to throw off their aim. Probably they never even realized what had happened. He strode toward them, feeling his cloak billowing behind him.
Thrawn: Alliances, Chapter Eight, Page 211

 

[Doggo]

It works like this.

Wait for the last scan, Vader can feel from his prosthetics? That's new and impressive since he lost his hand to Luke in EP6 and wasn't screaming.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Wait for the last scan, Vader can feel from his prosthetics? That's new and impressive since he lost his hand to Luke in EP6 and wasn't screaming.

That's how prosthetics works.

Don't you remember ESB? At the end, when they're making Luke's robotic hand, the robots poke his hand to see if it has any feeling.

 

[Doggo]

That's how prosthetics works.

Don't you remember ESB? At the end, when they're making Luke's robotic hand, the robots poke his hand to see if it has any feeling.

Forgot about the scene for a sec, also Vader has a new stamina/supernatural willpower feat for being ok with "disarming"

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Forgot about the scene for a sec, also Vader has a new stamina/supernatural willpower feat for being ok with "disarming"

This doesn't even come close to what Vader has already suffered.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Ok so...

I can't really tell y'all how his precog works since it's from scans in a scanbook. But from what I gathered, he can see into the future and also be instinctive afaik.

 

[Doggo]

Ok so...

I can't really tell y'all how his precog works since it's from scans in a scanbook. But from what I gathered, he can see into the future and also be instinctive afaik.

That's how force precog works. Grevious regularly deals with Jedi, so this is not an issue

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Incon FRA? The precog seems to be a problem tbh

 

[Phsccarvalho]

The precog seems to be a problem tbh

why?

 

[Doggo]

Incon FRA? The precog seems to be a problem tbh

It won't. Grevious regularly fights and beats folks with precog, so it won't really matter.

How skilled is Shin exactly?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

mhm, I'll wait for more Args but leaning towards incon

edit: also I think you should add the current votes to the OP

 

[Shadowslash125]

How skilled is Shin exactly?

Ok so he's initially just an average joe. When he's experimented on and became this thing, he's able to go up against police forces, and defeat a cyborg supersoldier far more skilled than him. The latter is able to give Shin a run for his money despite the former's more up-to-date super soldier abilities (Shin is Cyborg Soldier Level 3 to Goushima's Level 2) and precog. They were pretty much neck and neck in overall skill, but Goushima is skilled enough to go-to-toe with Shin despite his disadvantages, and Shin's able to grow in skill level thanks to the fact that the former is essentially hitting him even with precog on his end.

So like while GG has fought against precog users by skill alone, Shin's able to fight someone who can keep up to his precog with pure skill (the precog itself helps but you know what I mean).

only has 2 arms

Also keep in mind he has low-mid regen, which is enough to regen lost limbs.

Votes will be counted.

 

[Shadowslash125]

bump

 

[Nonynho]

IMO If Grievous has the skill advantage, he always wins.
But since we're going Incon here, imma go with it to collaborate with the votes. FRA, of course

 

[Shadowslash125]

IMO If Grievous has the skill advantage, he always wins.

I know everyone's voting incon but gotta explain this one rq.
Shin's able to defeat someone similar to Grievous in the way that the opponent is able to tag precog users (Shin) with pure skill alone.

 

[Nonynho]

I know everyone's voting incon but gotta explain this one rq.
Shin's able to defeat someone similar to Grievous in the way that the opponent is able to tag precog users (Shin) with pure skill alone.

Grievous does basically that too, defeating Jedi Masters for breakfast, for starters

 

[Shadowslash125]

Grievous does basically that too, defeating Jedi Masters for breakfast, for starters

This is what I meant.

Ok so he's initially just an average joe. When he's experimented on and became this thing, he's able to go up against police forces, and defeat a cyborg supersoldier far more skilled than him. The latter is able to give Shin a run for his money despite the former's more up-to-date super soldier abilities (Shin is Cyborg Soldier Level 3 to Goushima's Level 2) and precog. They were pretty much neck and neck in overall skill, but Goushima is skilled enough to go-to-toe with Shin despite his disadvantages, and Shin's able to grow in skill level thanks to the fact that the former is essentially hitting him even with precog on his end.

So like while GG has fought against precog users by skill alone, Shin's able to fight someone who can keep up to his precog with pure skill (the precog itself helps but you know what I mean).

 

[Nonynho]

This is what I meant.

Yeah, but precog ain't all, Grievous was dealing with this too, still slaying masters as if nothing:

• Instinctive Action and Perception Manipulation (The Force guides and warns the user of incoming danger instinctively, allowing them to react effortless in situations where there is not time for thought. The Force is capable of guiding the actions of sensitives. Being guided by the Force allows the user to see everything in slow motion. Through Force Speed the user can see the world and entities around them in a sort of slow motion, allowing them to dodge attacks easily and strike faster with greater accuracy)

Also, as a cyborg, Force wielders could just TK him, but they can't just due to the fear he instigates, usually, which is another great feat

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Grievous is superior to IG-100, one of the few droids capable of killing Jedi (they have to deal with precognition, Force sense, instinctive reaction, heightened perception up to slow motion, etc.) and are trained in all forms of lightsaber combat.

Furthermore, Grievous is superior to Ahsoka CW, who can face and defeat three Magnaguards while protecting a creature.

And Grievous is trained in the Jedi arts.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Yeah, but precog ain't all, Grievous was dealing with this too, still slaying masters as if nothing:

Also, as a cyborg, Force wielders could just TK him, but they can't just due to the fear he instigates, usually, which is another great feat

Grievous is superior to IG-100, one of the few droids capable of killing Jedi (they have to deal with precognition, Force sense, instinctive reaction, heightened perception up to slow motion, etc.) and are trained in all forms of lightsaber combat.

Furthermore, Grievous is superior to Ahsoka CW, who can face and defeat three Magnaguards while protecting a creature.

And Grievous is trained in the Jedi arts.

Precog isn't all, but Shin's instinctive action is far different from those of the Jedi. His attacks are stated to be wild, which would at least throw people off due to how sporadic and unorthodox his fighting style is. Not only that, he also have some sort of pseudo-analytical prediction that allows him to read 90% of his enemies' moves. Not to mention, he's not going to be bumrushing Grievous willy-nilly since he'd pick up on how hot his lightsabers are, noting it as a danger thanks to more than one sense organs.

Like I'm not saying Grievous skill is unimpressive, but Shin went from a normal dude with zilch combat experience to throwing hands and winning against a cyborg soldier initially far more skilled than him. I don't think the latter's going to be a slouch, especially when he's going to be jumping around here and there.

Btw GG has to aim for the head because Shin would be able to regen his limbs rather quickly.

(Also since GG is that skilled, I probably should've kept my original match going instead with this guy /jk).

EDIT: Forgot to link pseudo-ANPR scan. GG might not have muscle, but other tactile info is still there to be utilsed.

 

[Nonynho]

Hacking (4D

wtf are kamen rider characters doing lmfao
mf has 4D Hacking and, according to the fella, is as skilled as Grievous
what are those mfs eating?????

 

[Shadowslash125]

wtf are kamen rider characters doing lmfao
mf has 4D Hacking

This is because the spider phone that those particular riders have can hack the technology that are created by the future humans, and their tech are 4-D in nature due to being a part of the 4-D metaverse.

and, according to the fella, is as skilled as Grievous

I jest at the suggestion of reverting the match back to its original state, but if you see Reaps slighty concerned about the skill of a certain character, that speaks volumes. So yea, it was a good call to change it to this. I'd rather get a match where the character I defend for gets an L than a stomp from either side.

what are those mfs eating?????

Get a load of this.