Looney Tunes Discussion

[Thanganimator]

mb I typed too much. But...
If I remember correctly, Toon Physics stated that low-tier toons already have resistance to plot hax. That’s why I think there should be an additional layer of plot resistance, or plot-resistance negation, granted to the animator.

Plot manipulation 2 layers for The Animator (just joke)

 

[Tank1418]

Plot manipulation 2 layers for The Animator (just joke)

lol, but why?

 

[Thanganimator]

lol, but why?

Well at first i thought if low tier resist plot manipulation they would have baseline and high tier characters like bugs resist breaking narrative structure would have 1 layer and The Animator who controls the plot would have 2 layers but that's not the case so i'm just kidding

 

[Tank1418]

Well at first i thought if low tier resist plot manipulation they would have baseline and high tier characters like bugs resist breaking narrative structure would have 1 layer and The Animator who controls the plot would have 2 layers but that's not the case so i'm just kidding

Honestly, what I originally thought was that low-tier toons can resist plot hax, but it turns out the animator can simply ignore that resistance, so I’d give animator +1 additional layer.(I’m not sure if this works.)

 

[Thanganimator]

Honestly, what I originally thought was that low-tier toons can resist plot hax, but it turns out the animator can simply ignore that resistance, so I’d give animator +1 additional layer.(I’m not sure if this works.)

But if their plane is also informational type 2 and they can withstand that destruction i think they should also be resistant to information manipulation type 2 like how Bill Cipher got it

 

[Tank1418]

Honestly, what I originally thought was that low-tier toons can resist plot hax, but it turns out the animator can simply ignore that resistance, so I’d give animator +1 additional layer.(I’m not sure if this works.)

But if their plane is also informational type 2 and they can withstand that destruction i think they should also be resistant to information manipulation type 2 like how Bill Cipher got it

@Accelerated_Evolution What do you think bro?​

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

@Accelerated_Evolution What do you think bro?​

The "resistance to information manipulation (type 2)" stuff might work

The Animator having 1 layer of Plot Hax seems to make sense, although it should be noted a high-tier Toons' Plot Hax would still be superior to The Animator's as Yakko, Wakko and Dot already overcame it's plot manipulation

 

[Thanganimator]

It seems that the toon's soul is also their power/ability

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

It seems that the toon's soul is also their power/ability

It is something more fundamental than the soul, as showed when Bugs tooniness allowed him to regenerate even after him being destroyed on an informational level (Plus, Toon have already destroyed their own souls and came out fine)

Just like some weird type of "essential life-force".

 

[Thanganimator]

It is something more fundamental than the soul, as showed when Bugs tooniness allowed him to regenerate even after him being destroyed on an informational level (Plus, Toon have already destroyed their own souls and came out fine)

Just like some weird type of "essential life-force".

Hmm... if it's a type of life energy then for low level toons losing toonliness they will die and humans in this universe when losing toonliness will not die like in the video right?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Hmm... if it's a type of life energy then for low level toons losing toonliness they will die and humans in this universe when losing toonliness will not die like in the video right?

No, in one of the episodes of Tiny Toons Babs even loses her tooniness, but instead of dying, they will just become unable of using their Toon powers.

I don't remember the name of the episode of this situation happens btw, but the episode of the above clip is named "WashingToon"

 

[Fireld]

I think that other episode was called "The ACME Acres Zone".

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I think that other episode was called "The ACME Acres Zone".

Yup, the scene which i described above happens in the last segment of this episode

 

[Thanganimator]

The "resistance to information manipulation (type 2)" stuff might work

The Animator having 1 layer of Plot Hax seems to make sense, although it should be noted a high-tier Toons' Plot Hax would still be superior to The Animator's as Yakko, Wakko and Dot already overcame it's plot manipulation

But wait if Bugs Bunny is resistant to type 2 information destruction when the plane of existence is destroyed, then the animator would also have 1 layer of information manipulation right?
This even make them scarier

 

[Thanganimator]

Hey can someone explain why in cosmology Yakko says the universe expands to a place that never ends then the universe is infinite? Infinite requires more than that while expanding to a place that never ends then it is just expanding, it can never become infinite

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

But wait if Bugs Bunny is resistant to type 2 information destruction when the plane of existence is destroyed, then the animator would also have 1 layer of information manipulation right?
This even make them scarier

I don't know how layered information hax would work on these cases, but maybe?

Hey can someone explain why in cosmology Yakko says the universe expands to a place that never ends then the universe is infinite? Infinite requires more than that while expanding to a place that never ends then it is just expanding, it can never become infinite

He doesn't says that, though

He says "And still the universe extends to a place that never ends", AKA, it's physical extension is already of infinite size

 

[Thanganimator]

He doesn't says that, though

He says "And still the universe extends to a place that never ends", AKA, it's physical extension is already of infinite size

But isn't expanding to a place that never ends necessarily infinite?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

But isn't expanding to a place that never ends necessarily infinite?

I.... didn't really get your question

Yourself answered this above:

Hey can someone explain why in cosmology Yakko says the universe expands to a place that never ends then the universe is infinite? Infinite requires more than that while expanding to a place that never ends then it is just expanding, it can never become infinite

 

[Thanganimator]

I.... didn't really get your question

Yourself answered this above:

Oh... I confused between "extends" and "expands" and thought Yakko was saying the universe is expanding to a place that never ends.
My mistake

 

[Thanganimator]

I.... didn't really get your question

Yourself answered this above:

But if the universe is infinite and they travel all over the universe then why isn't their speed infinite?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

But if the universe is infinite and they travel all over the universe then why isn't their speed infinite?

Yakko technically doesn't travel across the entire universe on the music video

That said, there are actual feats of them crossing the entire universe in seconds that i would comment upon in a revision that i was planning, although i stopped working on it some time ago (i still plan to publish it someday, though)

 

[Thanganimator]

Is it possible to give Daffy acausality type 1 with this? He interacted with his past self and was fine.

 

[Thanganimator]

May I ask: isn’t the canon of Looney Tunes not about narrative continuity between episodes, but rather about a certain kind of internal consistency and linkage? And doesn’t it operate under a different frame of reference compared to what is usually called "traditional canon"?
I just had a debate with the death battle community in my country, and they don't accept Looney Tunes' actors canon argument; instead, they insist on the mainstream canon.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

May I ask: isn’t the canon of Looney Tunes not about narrative continuity between episodes, but rather about a certain kind of internal consistency and linkage? And doesn’t it operate under a different frame of reference compared to what is usually called "traditional canon"?

Yeah, kinda of

The Actors Canon is an idea mentioned a few times in the classical shorts, greatly expanded in the 90s with Animaniacs and Tiny Toons and later referenced a few times in modern media

 

[Thanganimator]

Oh, I think the Looney Tunes white space isn't just devoid space, it's devoid time too, because apparently after the film reel (a higher timeline) is destroyed, the white space appears, and the animator is manipulating time in a place where there's no space-time, what would that be?

Oh and Animator tool's can even deleted the entire cosmology, EE Space-time 5D?

 

[Thanganimator]

Can anyone explain to me why The Animator in Animaniacs has Acausality type 4 while the characters who gain Animator's tools in the real world don't?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I will try to answer the posts above later, as i am really busy right now

 

[Thanganimator]

Thank you

I will try to answer the posts above later, as i am really busy right now

 

[Tonygameman]

 

[Tonygameman]

You know, a boulder in Shot and Bothered could actually buff low-tier Lifting Strength.

 

[Tank1418]

Oh, I think the Looney Tunes white space isn't just devoid space, it's devoid time too, because apparently after the film reel (a higher timeline) is destroyed, the white space appears, and the animator is manipulating time in a place where there's no space-time, what would that be?

I don’t think that white space is the same area as the outside of the film reel, because it look like an empty background that simply hasn’t been created or filled in yet, similar to this.

Oh and Animator tool's can even deleted the entire cosmology, EE Space-time 5D?

JACKPOT!!!

 

[Thanganimator]

I don’t think that white space is the same area as the outside of the film reel, because it look like an empty background that simply hasn’t been created or filled in yet, similar to this.

JACKPOT!!!

Hmm... characters like Yakko have the ability to influence the "higher plane," even bringing Animator into the film, so should they be given "Negation Beyond-Dimensional Existence Type 1"?

 

[Tank1418]

Hmm... characters like Yakko have the ability to influence the "higher plane," even bringing Animator into the film, so should they be given "Negation Beyond-Dimensional Existence Type 1"?

It seems right.

 

[Thanganimator]

It seems right.

Why don't we give characters who have progressed to the "Real world" to possess Acausality type 4?

 

[Tank1418]

Why don't we give characters who have progressed to the "Real world" to possess Acausality type 4?

Honestly, there are still some AP feats that haven’t been added to the profile yet, not to mention the hax layers we talked about a long time ago
P.S. I’ve got a wild idea to upgrade the cosmology even more using Rick & Morty’s cosmology, but I’ll hold off for now because there’s a downgrade thread happening.”

 

[Thanganimator]

Isn't it true that we can't use collaborations for scaling?

Honestly, there are still some AP feats that haven’t been added to the profile yet, not to mention the hax layers we talked about a long time ago
P.S. I’ve got a wild idea to upgrade the cosmology even more using Rick & Morty’s cosmology, but I’ll hold off for now because there’s a downgrade thread happening.”

 

[Tank1418]

Isn't it true that we can't use collaborations for scaling?

Yes, if it isn't canon. But in this case, there’s evidence showing that both verses are connected through the server verse, and it’s even referenced in Rick & Morty.

 

[Thanganimator]

Yes, if it isn't canon. But in this case, there’s evidence showing that both verses are connected through the server verse, and it’s even referenced in Rick & Morty.

Good! Anyway, I'm also planning to scale their emotions = their power. That means if a character wants to touch/manipulate the emotions of Looney Tunes characters, that character needs to have their hax.

 

[Thanganimator]

Yes, if it isn't canon. But in this case, there’s evidence showing that both verses are connected through the server verse, and it’s even referenced in Rick & Morty.

Just done. What do you think?

Every Toon has "Looney" within their body, which acts as their essence. When Toons lose this, they lose both their personality and their powers, rendering them personality-less.

Looney also exists within humans. When the woman mentioned above regained the Looney, she recovered her manic personality and her powers.


Babs Bunny also intended to extract her Looney matter; as a result, she lost all her powers and personality, while that extracted matter transformed into a separate Toon entity.

When the "Looney essence" of one character enters another's body, the host will take on the personality of the original character.
(Ref: Minute 19:20)

=> Therefore, this implies that Emotions = Power for each character. Anyone wishing to manipulate these emotions would require the specific hax unique to Looney Tunes characters.

 

[Tank1418]

Just done. What do you think?

Every Toon has "Looney" within their body, which acts as their essence. When Toons lose this, they lose both their personality and their powers, rendering them personality-less.

Looney also exists within humans. When the woman mentioned above regained the Looney, she recovered her manic personality and her powers.

I’m not very sure, because it’s really hard to understand when watching a video without sound.

When the "Looney essence" of one character enters another's body, the host will take on the personality of the original character.
(Ref: Minute 19:20)

Bro... I can't open it.

But anyway, I’ll tp someone else to help check it .
/tp @Accelerated_Evolution ~ ~ ~