for now no Welt got emanator stat value after his upgrade
no we are not making the aeons or emanators have conceptual forms immeasurable speed because they're able to travel in imaginary space
Nono. Imaginary Energy itself isn’t physically bound by linear time, not simply Imaginary Space. Emanators can use it so they have it as an addition to their physical key, but Aeons could in a way be identified with Imaginary itself and grant it like that.
Is this about LOTM lol
ok but I'd rather it be a regular immeasurable thank you, like I wouldn't even prefer conceptual forms immeasurable speed because how do you even think to conceptualize speed ratings
The avatars aren’t even the Aeons. Their real selves are just Imaginary Energy (most likely). So we can just add “Immeasurable Speed” and keep it like that with no issues.ok but I'd rather it be a regular immeasurable thank you, like I wouldn't even prefer conceptual forms immeasurable speed because how do you even think to conceptualize speed ratings
"oh yeah my immeasurable is conceptual, yours aren't so im superior" like layers into immeasurable is only through higher temporal dimensions
wouldnt that make him omnipresent?
Kinda yeh. But whatever movement (if there can be any) we assign to him would also necessarily be Immeasurable
him????
Lwk, ya’ll think HooH would be a futanari because they represent duality? And we know he has two parts which should include Male and Female sooo
does this make HooH High 1-A++++++++?
That’s kinda how it works in many gnostic belief systems. Doubt they have genitals tho
I mean, we can cope
Dunno about gnosticism. I only read the chad neoplatonic texts
Don’t know anything about new plato. Sounds interesting
Not Plato, but Plotinus instead wiped the floor with the Gnostics.
Can you expand on the “wiped the floor” part?
Enneads 2, Tractate 9: “Against the Gnostics”
It’s much longer but this was just a part I found particularly funny cuz of the Plato glaze
The entire thing is very long, I’ll have to read this after classes.
It should be most of them.
ok but I'd rather it be a regular immeasurable thank you, like I wouldn't even prefer conceptual forms immeasurable speed because how do you even think to conceptualize speed ratings
"oh yeah my immeasurable is conceptual, yours aren't so im superior" like layers into immeasurable is only through higher temporal dimensions
I imagine we can apply this to their avatar forms? (There's nothing to say that the conceptual form and avatar aren't both made up of imaginary energy.)
I seem to recall SU stating that Hooh has no form, or perhaps I'm confusing him with Mythus, and even if he did have one, I suppose he would probably resemble that strange block that represents him.
I mean… they are projections from Imaginary Space, so they would honestly js be Real Space forms. Naturally, these “avatars” are also capable of utilizing Imaginary, but I doubt they’d have the same ontology as their True Forms.
No issues with this. Especially with my view that they are CM3-adjacent beings.
I would really like to treat this in a sort of case-by-case scenario. Since what’s Immeasurable here is the pure Imaginary Energy as you’re stating. Not the energy that is transformed into the things in Real Space, since at that point, their ontology is already distinct. Because everything in the cosmos is fundamentally formed by Imaginary Energy, so then we risk giving even HSR atoms Immeasurable Speed.
Iirc it says he split into two. But having no form isn’t really an issue because Imaginary Energy also doesn’t have form. At least, a concrete one that is, since that’s something that happens when it enters Real Space. Which also kinda means that HooH inherently won’t have a real form since he’s merged with the entire cosmology.
I'm not saying the opposite, but simply that the assertion that an avatar isn't also made of imaginary energy doesn't exist yet. I'm one of the first to tell you that there's an ontological difference between the two.
This sort of thing is quite absurd anyway; I only believe in beings purely imaginary and beings that might have followed, closely or remotely, one of these beings capable of moving at such speed.
I don't think it would bother him, as long as this guy is symmetrical I doubt he'd really be upset...
any mftl+ speed feat in hsr is like higher than 95% of all the mftl+ calcs in the wiki so like unless you wanna bother with the values, you'd know like just say infinite instead of mftl+ because the value in mftl+ is so arbitrarily high that if you count them you'd rather just die
stellaron is virtually impossible to destroy btw (silent galaxy mission), it's indestructible like bedrock so you have that and himeko stated not even herta could destroy it
Interesting
Zandar blew one up
If Zandar blew it up, Polka would've came and killed him right there before Irontomb hatched
Your scans literally say he contained the ripples so Polka wouldn’t find out
Stellaron contamination ≠ stellaron being blown to pieces, how did you think the ripples there are the pieces
He blew the stellaron up… causing contamination… and then he sealed that contamination…
Pretty sure a stellaron doesn't have to be blown up to even cause contamination
Herta couldn't do it bro, like what makes you think zandar is able to do that also like the stellaron there is merged with demiurge so demiurge is like the stellaron itself and it resonated with trailblazer so yeh
Ok here's the thing, detonating a stellaron is like exploding it, it's like trailblazer's stellaron almost exploding or cocolia's death because obviously the stellaron exploded right and that's the reason cocolia died but after that the stellaron is still intact and this is the same stellaron himeko said to be virtually indestructible so like it's still indestructible
Since it still exists where is it? Because it would be very convenient for everyone if Zandar just lost it and didn’t use it to further power himself or irontomb.
Because Zandar One is better than Herta, that simple. Him being out of touch with the modern universe doesn’t disqualify him from something Herta isn’t able to do. He was the first emanator of Nous, who was made using Zandars likeness. Why would Herta be his equal? Not sure what your dreamscape point is even supposed to mean, like so what?
Existed as Demiurge, I literally told you the stellaron contamination fused with the core
Anyway it sounds like rationalizing when you have no real proof. The thing was detonated and now it’s nowhere to be found. Until further information, information you lack, it’s safe to assume the stellaron is indeed gone. Unless you have more information of course.
