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In fact if you look the scene they all look like they are contributing more or less the same since it's supposed to be a "working together" kinda sht
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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Not equal, but it's clear that Viv does not want to make Val be over a million of times above Cherri. It's about the obvious author intent
Charlie scales relative to Adam who can one shot Full Power Alastor. Do you want to tell me that the cactus devil halped just as much as her? Or Val, who had a hard time against Cherri and had to ask Angel for help?
Vibe scaling is saying that every overlord can punch a nuke when the show does not make it logical
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Which is again an outlier unless you mean owning so many souls and being an Overlord that can fight on equals with Vel and base Vox is only slightly above normal Sinners like Cherri
I told that to @DaReaperMan, he said that's what we do for other verses, talk to him
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I mean, Niffty and Husk don't have any more souls to own, yet they keep their overlords powers
Mythic381
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Technically speaking, we only saw her being physically comparable when she transformed more, we don't know how their fight actually went before Lucifer came, especially with the fact she was using her Pitchfork.
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That's because they were former Overlords and evidently kept their powers
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Yeah because that's pretty much what the scene shows and we can't put our personal perceptions over the show
Why doesn't it make it logical? What you're saying is "These characters are not hyped and spectacular enough to be island level" and saying logical in order to make it sound like you're argument holds more weight than it truly does.
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She needs to hit the gym fr
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I will stand for what I said. If you guys ever make a CRT, I will argue further on this point. It would make the scaling look waaaay more neat
Top overlords, Charlie and Emily = Tier 6
Weak overlords = Tier 8 to 7
Instead of
Everyone = Tier 6
It would avoid tons of inconsistences from future seasons
Top overlords, Charlie and Emily = Tier 6
Weak overlords = Tier 8 to 7
Instead of
Everyone = Tier 6
It would avoid tons of inconsistences from future seasons
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This is also not how powerscaling works: You either scale or not scale. If you scale you get a statistic derived from the thing you scale, if you don't scale, you don't, the specific difference isn't really quantifiable in the vast majority of cases.
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Nah nah, we need to waste the timescreen of 8 episodes per season series (which is arguably its biggest issue) to glaze all the random Overlords!
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The **** are you yapping
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Actually if we accept your vibe-based argumentation weak overlords would all get 8-A and be quantifiable indistinguishable from Cherry Bomb or Angel Dust. So the thing you're complaining about remains just in the opposite direction.
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I quite literally argued the same thing but Reaper said that's what we do around here. So just discuss it with him so he can show you some examples.
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Bruh Reaper aint no god, not even a mod.
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I'm explaining to you why "Val isn't a million times stronger than Cherry Bomb" is not a real argument and it doesn't work in the context of powerscaling.
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Base Charlie is an overrated bum ngl
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I never said that? I'm just saying he is the one who came up with this scaling. I believe it's only intuitional to talk to the guy who invented thing if you criticize the thing, don't you think?
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Eden_Warlock99
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I'm not sure if it's something that should be taken literally
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It should be something like "At least Island level, likely far higher" not Multi-Continent
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Just remove the { }} from the tier part, everything looks fine.
Edit: Actually he is not High 6-A, only 6-C
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Do we assume that Shok.wav was always that strong or that Vox empowers it? It wouldn't make much sense for Shok to be "Strongest Sinner in Hell" levels even before Vox
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Several moments:
- It's "At least 6-C, likely far higher"
- Speed is Supersonic+ only in travel, he scales to FTL in R/C via fighting Alastor
- Actually you can use {{Tier}} in blogs and sandboxes, it won't add categories anymore
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I mean...don't we see this characters sing all the time?
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Considering it's mechanically enhanced? I'd go for the latter
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I mean yeah but the guy who composes the song is talking about how he feels about the songs that he writes and sharing his interpretations of the series so I'm not sure if it's something that literally happens inside the world
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One of the workers in the show treated it seriously, I believe that his word holds more weight than yours...
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Nah he just secretly neggs the verse
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but he brings a good point...wasn't Lilith in the story of hell literraly showing musical notes to empower all of hell?
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I mean there's the whole Lilith singing and empowering demons stuff
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Didn't think about that
Eden_Warlock99
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Ah cool.
Still think the whole nuke thing is High 6-A but Ig that's for the CRT.
Also we decided on FTL? Just like straight up?
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Yeah, Stellar_Fish is just being obtuse for no reason trying to deny what's obviously shown in the episode itself
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Weird given that only Overlords influenced it via singing while others were just standing there.
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...so do overlords are more in sync with the power of music?
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The thing that makes me doubt it is that this is probably the only song to be directly implied to possibly empower the singers.
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He was still Alastor's tier even when Vox started to lose his powers and became even weaker than his base stuff, so Shok.wav really is just that guy.
Vox was also kinda already number 2 strongest before so it ain't that weird too.
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I suppose so given from what I saw on others working in sandboxes
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