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Miraculous Ladybug General Discussion 2
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Damn i was waiting some high 7-C or town level smth
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The Eiffel Tower is often too light for that.
Mind that there are calcs with buildings having a much, much higher weight.
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i finixhed watching the new grandiaper ep with my friend and i just wanted to talk abt how zoe’s vigilante fit is so tea
she’s lowkey giving cassandra cain vibes, like not what’s going on with her rn but literally just her outfit
she’s lowkey giving cassandra cain vibes, like not what’s going on with her rn but literally just her outfit
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She does looks great.
Fury's Supremacy is my new motto.
Fury's Supremacy is my new motto.
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Anyways...i've started to this any comments?
Akumatized Villains & Sentimonsters Physiology
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At this point making an Akuma (the butterfly itself) profile seems more intuitive than listing it on an Akumatized Villain's phisiology page. There doesn't seems to be a correlation.
Type 6 Immortality is for the relationship of the Akuma with an akumatized villain.
No layered Power Mimicry or resistance stuff. Miraculous powers not being able to be copied is not because the Miraculouses have a particular resistance to that, it's because of how the cosmology of the universe works. It's an internal inconsistency that Akumas can grant those powers.
I will say that I have a particular issue with Sentimonsters because their very nature is just not consistent with each other to lump them in a single physiology. Like how are you going to say that Hack-san and Red Moon are skilled Martial Artists? Most of Akumatized have a lot of traits alike for it to justify it that Sentimonsters as a group just don't seem to have.
Speaking of Martial Arts; Fencing is a martial art too since we're keen to mention Adrien's comment of knowing karate.
It's this one.
They have a feat that makes them faster than that anyways.
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i wanted to give a blog about it since they are releated
could write an explanation for the profile and give it to me? the old one is lowk undetailed
do you have a statement for that to be inconsistency i mean i can understand feats before season 5 but those wax statues getting powers in season 5 is a problem
true but most of them still has it
sure i can add it also boxing as well? alya learned boxing from her big sister a bit during season 5
yes this one, is it usable for akumas?
also what do you think rena rouge having resistance to her own power or some extransensory perception as she was capable of knowing which ball was the real one in revelator
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chloe’s ender!She does looks great.
Fury's Supremacy is my new motto.
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Powers of Miraculouses cannot be granted because a concept cannot exist twice in the universe. That's the whole reason why Orikko cannot replicate it, because it's impossible within cosmology to have two of the same concepts at the same time. Conceptually speaking, it's an unconvential resistance on itself, so nobody who replicates it's byapassing anything.
I think the only villain she has fought since S5 is Revelator, but ig is fine or w/e
Yes.
Not a Resistance nor ESP. She can perceive stuff through her illusions, so it's Clairvoyance.
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Class T :0
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wouldn't this be immunity to power mimicry in-verse?
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No.
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bruh i was expecting kagami
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Optigami:
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Lila was about to cover Marinette's secret identity she is suspecting from dark castle that mari is ladybug
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lila is such a weirdo 
that bathroom scene was so uncomfortable like she rlly had a camera set up in the bathroom for mari
i feel like atp they could get felix to make a senti version of marinette so lila wouldnt suspect anything
that bathroom scene was so uncomfortable like she rlly had a camera set up in the bathroom for marii feel like atp they could get felix to make a senti version of marinette so lila wouldnt suspect anything
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lila is such a weirdo
i feel like atp they could get felix to make a senti version of marinette so lila wouldnt suspect anything
She planned everything she locked the Doors so mari can't escape and she knows that she would go hide in WC so she did that also Felix doesn't prefer to create senti-beings and destroy them after that but we have Rena Rouge that can create a Marinette illusion
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Theres a thread about Class 1-A vs the Miraculers that Astruc himself has commented on. Now fair game, Miraculers outhax 1-A by a lot but Astruc getting carried away thinking they can beat the likes of Marvel or DC barring Batman, WW and Superman lol
He thinks because the characters have 'infinite potential' when in reality the power is RESTRICTED by being on these teenagers, that they can somehow overpower Marvel/DC Heralds (Who also have showings of being above that)
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Link please.
Also if it really is Astruc he can make up whatever he wants to make them above Marvel and DC characters, heck he can probably make Kwamis high 1-A just to prove he was right. Anyways obviously based on what we know now he is just being ridiculous.
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Base Ben solos
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Miraculous is tier -1 transcending power scaling that's what Astruc said.
Ridiculous scaling that I hate please no.
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based scaling trust
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I mean, Thomas has already said that Ladybug and Chat Noir could defeat Thanos and the Lucky Charm could defeat Goku.
It’s a funny thing to think about, but it’s not really scaling potential. He himself says that he’s not into power scaling. Just that that’s how the logic of his universe works: there’s no bigger thing that the concept the Miraculouses represent. There’s no storms above Ryuko's and there’s no strength above Purple Tigress’
It’s a funny thing to think about, but it’s not really scaling potential. He himself says that he’s not into power scaling. Just that that’s how the logic of his universe works: there’s no bigger thing that the concept the Miraculouses represent. There’s no storms above Ryuko's and there’s no strength above Purple Tigress’
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Well cool but that literally doesnt make sense in the context of the show either, and takes place in its own separate verse lol. The Miraculers very clearly arent Infinite in all stats because of this, and they established themselves that Kwami's need their holders in order to limit the power they cant control iirc
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He doesn’t goes by stats, he’s goes by their powers. And they do state on the show that the limits Miraculous holders have are only the ones they put on themselves.
Kwamis aren’t able to control the scope of their powers, which leads to them doing unintended things like throwing an skyscraper and the unfortunate souls on it into a volcano. It’s not something Pegasus cannot do himself, but can deliberately avoid.
Kwamis aren’t able to control the scope of their powers, which leads to them doing unintended things like throwing an skyscraper and the unfortunate souls on it into a volcano. It’s not something Pegasus cannot do himself, but can deliberately avoid.
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Theres still obviously some scope of stats thats limited. And in regards to how readily accessible this infinte potential of theres is.
In cross-verse, they'd only be able to go off their own verse. None of the Miraculous Holders are taking on Marvel/DC heralds tho with this logic.
In cross-verse, they'd only be able to go off their own verse. None of the Miraculous Holders are taking on Marvel/DC heralds tho with this logic.
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By this wiki standards, sure, I do agree. But that’s not what he’s referring to, he doesn’t gives a shit about power scaling as a whole.
He’s talking about in-verse portrayal. Similar to how Superman is strong because he’s Superman, not because he can do X feats.
He’s talking about in-verse portrayal. Similar to how Superman is strong because he’s Superman, not because he can do X feats.
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They might be able to beat some chars from mcu
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Cool but he shouldnt be trying to make claims like that then lol. His power system doesnt make sense to make everyone have infinite powers and potential because of their conceptual magic, then rag on other series for making other characters all-powerful
As long as we dont take it seriously tho, cause judging by other cases like this (such as Kirkman saying Invincible beats Superman), there are people that will religiously believe this
As long as we dont take it seriously tho, cause judging by other cases like this (such as Kirkman saying Invincible beats Superman), there are people that will religiously believe this
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There’s few things Thomas doesn’t rags on.
Anyways we don’t take Crossverse Scaling here. It does oddly give an insight on the what the characters are on thought.
Anyways we don’t take Crossverse Scaling here. It does oddly give an insight on the what the characters are on thought.
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I don't think most of the ppl from this wiki would believe into these statements, we go by feats like those statements were tuff in 2018-2021
i personally don't care about those statements and i don't take them seriously anymore
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Well tbh, Thomas is admitting hes made up an entire power system since he doesnt understand the powerscaling. So its a double edged sword too.
Obv the Miraculous are conceptual magic so thats fine (major inconsistencies aside), but hes trying to create a playing field where...physical stats are null and void amongst everyone? even though hes also trying to act as if he thinks someone like Tigress is stronger than Hulk (who goes beyond his own logic)
Obv the Miraculous are conceptual magic so thats fine (major inconsistencies aside), but hes trying to create a playing field where...physical stats are null and void amongst everyone? even though hes also trying to act as if he thinks someone like Tigress is stronger than Hulk (who goes beyond his own logic)
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Yall need to see this
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It’s not that he believes that stats doesn’t matter, it’s just how people who don’t pay mind on stats think of Powerscaling see the discussion.
A few months ago I saw a discussion about the Miraculers vs the Omnidroid. If we go by physicals the Miraculers fold it, but people don’t see the Miraculers physical stats, not really. In their perception they default to weaker than Mr Incredible and slower than Dash given how they are treated by the narrative. So it then becomes a discussion of which Miraculous power would defeat the Omnidroid, not on how powerful the Miraculers or the Omnidroid truly are.
The Purple Tigress thing is because her power is literally punching hard and going boom
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