Uraume Calc Discussion

[Buraqibear]

Shmeatywerbenmanjenson votes:

Buraqibear votes: @ElJoaki5 , @Drite77, @Dalesean027

Here we have two accepted calcs for Uraume's ice block from chapter 237, one, currently being used and my one that recently got accepted. I saw people saying that the accepted Uraume calc is invalid for chain scaling with others since it has wonky pixel scaling so I decided to do my own version and got a pretty big difference in results. The purpose of this thread is to decide which one is more valid and should be used.

Also, the original calculation assumes the ice creation started while Gojo was still fighting Sukuna, where a timeframe was given when Gojo would use his Hollow Purple 41 seconds later, but the issue with that is that Gojo, who is known to have keen Cursed Energy perception and vision would've noticed Uraume forming the ice structure, also the structure was also mainly to deliver a weapon, Kamutoke to Sukuna, which would've been suicide since Gojo is leagues above Uraume and that Kamutoke would've been completely ineffective against Gojo thanks to his Infinity. Gojo would've also not just sticked around while the block fell and no one knew that Sukuna would win the fight by then and that Gojo would be killed, and the ice structure is stated to have 'appeared' above Kashimo, who didn't notice Uraume till then. That's why I didn't use the timeframe.

 

[Mommyleona]

i think yours is better, atleast timeframe makes more sense in the story and logically, i mean how would Uraume slowly create a large ice cube in the sky for over ~40 seconds without it.. just falling down mid creation, Uraume cant fly or levitate objects like that
Besides, all her other showings of creating ice structures are basically always instant
cant speak on pixel scaling

 

[ElJoaki5]

I agree that the height Kashimo was stated to vault shouldnt be used as building height since in the panel showing how high he jumps he is above most buildings.
I also can agree with not dividing over time, not because of what youre saying though. Thing is the block of ice was free falling towards the ground, so it doesnt make sense for it to be made over a long period of time.
Overall the new calcs seems better (If I havent missed anything)

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

let's freaking go.

 

[Buraqibear]

So...does this also need 3 votes?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

no I think, just two (though I might be mistaken since it's a controversial verse (the scaling part comes later and that'll need 3 votes, ofc))

 

[ElJoaki5]

So...does this also need 3 votes?

Go message wall some cgms

 

[Drite77]

Ello, I'm on my daily game break, but this is easier then evaluating calcs '-'. The original calculation's pixel scaling on the building was off, since some of the stories were obstructed by debris. About the timeframe, I heard the explanation of why it wouldn't make sense and I found reasonable, but I'll say that's something the supporters know better then me

 

[Buraqibear]

Ello, I'm on my daily game break, but this is easier then evaluating calcs '-'. The original calculation's pixel scaling on the building was off, since some of the stories were obstructed by debris. About the timeframe, I heard the explanation of why it wouldn't make sense and I found reasonable, but I'll say that's something the supporters know better then me

Alrighty, I suppose I can count your vote towards my calc then?

 

[Drite77]

Alrighty, I suppose I can count your vote towards my calc then?

ye

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

2 for two ig. Now then, we wait for the grace to end

 

[Buraqibear]

2 for two ig. Now then, we wait for the grace to end

Who's grace

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

this grace? CRTs have a grace period too (at least, when the CRT has been created recently)

 

[Buraqibear]

this grace? CRTs have a grace period too (at least, when the CRT has been created recently)

What's that

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

What's that

Grace signifying that a matchup or CRT has reach the nessasisary votes to be completed BUT there's a time period before it can go through, typically 24 hours after a CRT's grace

 

[Mommyleona]

Grace signifying that a matchup or CRT has reach the nessasisary votes to be completed BUT there's a time period before it can go through, typically 24 hours after a CRT's grace

Why are you falling for bait

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

If we have a problem with the timeframe, we could assume a lowend where Uraume took 3 to 10 seconds. I think it would be a fair shot and would avoid people being skeptical about the feat

 

[Buraqibear]

Grace signifying that a matchup or CRT has reach the nessasisary votes to be completed BUT there's a time period before it can go through, typically 24 hours after a CRT's grace

I genuinely didn't know what grace was, Anyways are we totally sure this only needs 2 votes?

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Yours is significantly better from a pixel scaling perspective imo

 

[Mommyleona]

Anyways are we totally sure this only needs 2 votes?

i mean you can wait for a 3rd one if you want to be sure

 

[ElJoaki5]

Theres a small mistake in buraqis calc tho, the line you drew on the building includes 20 storeys, not 21

 

[Buraqibear]

Theres a small mistake in buraqis calc tho, the line you drew on the building includes 20 storeys, not 21

Fixed

 

[Buraqibear]

Grace would be over if two mods were enough. Bump

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

if grace is over, this can be closed

 

[Buraqibear]

if grace is over, this can be closed

Idk if two mod votes are enough

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Theres a small mistake in buraqis calc tho, the line you drew on the building includes 20 storeys, not 21

are two votes enough to proceed?

 

[ElJoaki5]

are two votes enough to proceed?

I dunno Get a third one just to make sure, preferably someone knowledgeable on the verse

 

[Drite77]

Technically speaking, it is two votes, three for verses that are controvertial

Calc Group Members, such as myself and Joaki, do not have voting rights, but given this is a calc question, maybe our input is taken more seriously

 

[ElJoaki5]

Technically speaking, it is two votes, three for verses that are controvertial

Also for calc group threads? (This verse is controversial btw)

Calc Group Members, such as myself and Joaki, do not have voting rights, but given this is a calc question, maybe our input is taken more seriously

Not on crts ofc, but we do on calc discussion threads like this. Youd have to make a crt after this to actually replace calcs.

 

[Drite77]

Also for calc group threads? (This verse is controversial btw)

Huh, I didn't know that. Perhaps a third one would be better then

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

then grace isn't over, we need another CGM

 

[Buraqibear]

then grace isn't over, we need another CGM

Do God’s work and send this to some cgms

 

[ElJoaki5]

Do God’s work and send this to some cgms

And then unc wonders why his threads dont get attention . (Bump btw)

 

[Sammy818]

So once this gets accepted will we need a second thread for ryu scaling or will we just instantly jump to it

 

[Mommyleona]

So once this gets accepted will we need a second thread for ryu scaling or will we just instantly jump to it

it will need another crt to actually apply the scaling, or try to atleast

 

[Buraqibear]

So once this gets accepted will we need a second thread for ryu scaling or will we just instantly jump to it

It'll take another CRT. I'll do this it the same one as the Sukuna CRT in a while

 

[Sammy818]

Someone call in due date so we can get this closed and accepted

 

[ElJoaki5]

Someone call in due date so we can get this closed and accepted

We need a cgm unc

 

[Sammy818]

We need a cgm unc

He is a cgm me thinks

 

[Buraqibear]

Bump