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GRACE [7-0-0] The Harbinger of Violence Versus the Staff Of Change - War Vs Hazbin Hotel Staff- Darksiders VS Hazbin Hotel

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War (End Game Darksiders)
  • AP: 682.157 Tons of TNT, possibly 59.44 Zettatons with Havoc
  • LS: 16,813.2541 tons
  • Dura: 682.157 Tons of TNT, 59.44 Zettatons with Havoc
Hazbin Hotel Staff:
  • AP: 93.7280301597863 Tons of TNT for Regular Members, 126.694 Tons of TNT for Higher Tiers, 44.91 Kilotons of TNT with Charlie's Pitchfork
  • LS: At least 1156.36176953 tons
  • Dura: 93.7280301597863 Tons of TNT for Regular Members, 126.694 Tons of TNT for Higher Tiers, 44.91 Kilotons of TNT with Charlie's Pitchfork
Battle Rules:
  • Battlefield: The Gilded Arena
  • Start Distance: 20 Meters
  • Charlie has her Pitchfork
  • War has all his equipment
  • Speed is Equalized
  • Both sides are in character
  • Note: Lucifer is not part of the team despite what the image shows.
Song Of Battle


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The Rider of the Red Horse: @DaReaperMan, @Anonymous_Learner, @Flowerguy2, @TheOrangeGuy09, @Comiphorous, @LegendariumOfLies, @Naito-desu
The Hope of Hell:
 
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I barely know anything about Darksiders-verse but like

pretty sure Charlie just gets skill-stomped, one-shot and haxxed to oblivion bro, along with that she barely has any offensive ability to helped herself out with the Fire/Explosion Hax being the ones (even then she barely uses them and mostly goes physical)😭
 
I barely know anything about Darksiders-verse but like

pretty sure Charlie just get both skill-stomped and one-shot to oblivion bro, along with that she barely has any offensive ability to helped herself out with the Fire/Explosion Hax being the ones (even then she barely uses them and mostly goes physical)😭
Both combatants are bloodlusted. What is stopping Charlie from transforming immediately?
 
Both combatants are bloodlusted. What is stopping Charlie from transforming immediately?
Either Fury killing her immediately before she can transformed (She has a 5x advantage over base Charlie and she drastically upscales from that value) or by using any of the Scorn's abilities even after she transformed.

Adding on that Fury can also instinctively dodge all of Charlie's attacks so she has enough time to use one of Scorn's ability to killed her just as quickly.
 
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Fury's dura neg sucks, and you also can't restrict Havoc Form, as it's not a tier above Fury. Not like it matters.

The problem Charlie has is that she is a no skill low hax character going up against a skill god who's got IA and doesn't particularly tend to **** around. Even if Fury lacked dura neg outright, Charlie would literally NEVER land a single hit or graze on her, thanks to her best feat of skill being... surprising Adam and landing a hit on him. And then proceeding to lose that fight so badly she had to be bailed by her dad.

Fury also has an LS advantage. And she's not above restraining limbs with Scorn.

So uh... Fury casually outlasts Charlie or hits her enough with her Stasis Hollow that she just like, dies. Skill stomp. There is a reason Samael and Strife cleared the entire hotel with ease in a previous match.
 
Fury's dura neg sucks, and you also can't restrict Havoc Form, as it's not a tier above Fury. Not like it matters.
Correct me if I'm wrong - been a good amount of time since I have played Darksiders 3 - but doesn't Fury not start with Havoc Form at the beginning of the game or am I misremembering?
The problem Charlie has is that she is a no skill low hax character going up against a skill god who's got IA and doesn't particularly tend to **** around. Even if Fury lacked dura neg outright, Charlie would literally NEVER land a single hit or graze on her, thanks to her best feat of skill being... surprising Adam and landing a hit on him. And then proceeding to lose that fight so badly she had to be bailed by her dad.

Fury also has an LS advantage. And she's not above restraining limbs with Scorn.

So uh... Fury casually outlasts Charlie or hits her enough with her Stasis Hollow that she just like, dies. Skill stomp. There is a reason Samael and Strife cleared the entire hotel with ease in a previous match.
So you are saying Stomp or Vote for Fury?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong - been a good amount of time since I have played Darksiders 3 - but doesn't Fury not start with Havoc Form at the beginning of the game or am I misremembering?
She also doesn't start with any of her actual abilities, as she hasn't even met the Lord of Hollows. Also the super forms aren't restrictable as Fury in-lore has had her super form as long as all three of her brothers, and Death started his game with his own super form.
So you are saying Stomp or Vote for Fury?
It's a pretty nasty stomp. If you want to do Darksiders vs Hellaverse, this is the page you use for Hellaverse.
 
Would Fury (with her full Kit) vs all Hazbin Hotel Staff be atleast fair? Obviously, both sides will be bloodlusted.
If you give War prior knowledge of Charlie's 7-C that could be fair, but Fury likely just does the dodge God thing while dismantling them. At least War tends to block shit and sometimes just facetanks it instead of dodging all the time.

Also, bloodlusting someone with an invincible super form that lacks an in-lore time limit is a really funny idea.

As usual, War is the most matchable of the Horsemen. We do not talk about Strife or Death.
 

Hazbin Staff​

Charlie:​

Obviously she's one of the carries here, with the fact she can bust out tier 7 things and all, but her problem is that she's also the least skilled of everyone here, and is the hardest to get to actually go into proper combat instead of just defending. There's nothing really special about her beyond that though.

Vaggie:​

Of everyone here, say hello to the one who will die first. Vaggie unfortunately has basically no chance of survival against War because she is exclusively a melee against someone who uses a sword that could literally bisect her with a stab, plus the fact she's not exactly the most skilled individual in melee here. Not really close, and her extra angel stuff doesn't really help.

Nifty:​

No profile but she's the small one with a knife, and is also all melee. The only thing saving her is size, and if she gets grabbed once... squish.

Husk:​

The first ranged fighter, and one who can fly. Basically, Husk throws cards and explosives until he gets caught, incapped, and maybe regens to get back into the fray. nothing special here.

Angel Dust:​

Guns are effective. But Angel Dust isn't packing enough heat to solo carry this at that kind of AP disadvantage, and he suffers the same problem as Husk in that once it gets to melee, he's immediately incapped for a bit.

Sir Pentious:​

He's a melee fighter, with some gun options and an airship. He's unironically the best support the Hotel has because artillery is effective, to say the least. Suffers like the rest in melee, but he's useful.

Cherri Bomb:​

Copy/paste Husk or Angel Dust's section. Also add that her getting incapped in melee will bloodlust Pentious.

Alastor:​

Hey look it's the hard carry.

Alastor has tricks, the knowledge that getting into melee is a piss poor idea thanks to Nifty and Vaggie's sacrifices, and the unfortunate conundrum that all of his shit doesn't really work! Tentacles? Cut through or overpowered. Shadow minion zerging? Read War's skill section. Shadow attacks and giant form? Not the best idea. Alastor can do things beyond shoot at War and get full nelson'd though, so there's that.

War​

So... War is a monster. He has the LS to crush the smaller members, and can pretty casually execute anyone who lacks immortality, and if Charlie goes down to the initial conflict... that's basically GG.

With wrath powers he's got AoE, durability buffs, and a couple other things, but can also shoot them back and crush them in melee. Did I mention War had an arm lopped off and was mostly fine? Because yeah, this is basically a Juggernaut vs the mortals.

And the Juggernaut wins, since only Charlie is really a threat and War has an extra life or two to give to figure that out and just go Chaos Form or start dodging her.
 

Hazbin Staff​

Charlie:​

Obviously she's one of the carries here, with the fact she can bust out tier 7 things and all, but her problem is that she's also the least skilled of everyone here, and is the hardest to get to actually go into proper combat instead of just defending. There's nothing really special about her beyond that though.

Vaggie:​

Of everyone here, say hello to the one who will die first. Vaggie unfortunately has basically no chance of survival against War because she is exclusively a melee against someone who uses a sword that could literally bisect her with a stab, plus the fact she's not exactly the most skilled individual in melee here. Not really close, and her extra angel stuff doesn't really help.

Nifty:​

No profile but she's the small one with a knife, and is also all melee. The only thing saving her is size, and if she gets grabbed once... squish.

Husk:​

The first ranged fighter, and one who can fly. Basically, Husk throws cards and explosives until he gets caught, incapped, and maybe regens to get back into the fray. nothing special here.

Angel Dust:​

Guns are effective. But Angel Dust isn't packing enough heat to solo carry this at that kind of AP disadvantage, and he suffers the same problem as Husk in that once it gets to melee, he's immediately incapped for a bit.

Sir Pentious:​

He's a melee fighter, with some gun options and an airship. He's unironically the best support the Hotel has because artillery is effective, to say the least. Suffers like the rest in melee, but he's useful.

Cherri Bomb:​

Copy/paste Husk or Angel Dust's section. Also add that her getting incapped in melee will bloodlust Pentious.

Alastor:​

Hey look it's the hard carry.

Alastor has tricks, the knowledge that getting into melee is a piss poor idea thanks to Nifty and Vaggie's sacrifices, and the unfortunate conundrum that all of his shit doesn't really work! Tentacles? Cut through or overpowered. Shadow minion zerging? Read War's skill section. Shadow attacks and giant form? Not the best idea. Alastor can do things beyond shoot at War and get full nelson'd though, so there's that.

War​

So... War is a monster. He has the LS to crush the smaller members, and can pretty casually execute anyone who lacks immortality, and if Charlie goes down to the initial conflict... that's basically GG.

With wrath powers he's got AoE, durability buffs, and a couple other things, but can also shoot them back and crush them in melee. Did I mention War had an arm lopped off and was mostly fine? Because yeah, this is basically a Juggernaut vs the mortals.

And the Juggernaut wins, since only Charlie is really a threat and War has an extra life or two to give to figure that out and just go Chaos Form or start dodging her.
Counted a Vote for War
 
Technically Alastor will most likely be upgraded so idk about that, since we would have two Tier 7's in fight and one of them actually has good skill...

Edit: (This gets even worse if Sinners' regeneration becomes combat-applicable...)

But either way that does not happen right now + Hazbin is trash + L bozo = War neggs FRA.
 
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Technically Alastor will most likely be upgraded so idk about that, since we would have two Tier 7's in fight and one of them actually has good skill...
Let's be honest, once we actually get to see that Vox vs Alastor fight in season 2 that Tier 7 upgrade is going to become an outlier.
 
It's going to be a weakened Alastor vs. Vox so nah
It's a discussion for another thread, but Vox being comparable to a weakened Alastor when he beat a full powered Alastor years prior does make a valid concern regarding Alastor's scaling to someone Vox implies he didn't even know was killable in the first place. But that's for when that episode drops, so not a concern yet.

Until then, War seems to wash over them (and probably still would even if Alastor had that tier 7 stuff)
 
Isn't this your thread? Which you had added to the profile since he canonically won?
I think you can understand my motives behind that if you look at the first sentence of the OP. It's also in one of my comments there when grace happened.

Anyways, you yourself agreed to Vox part in my thread where I definitively proved that Vox did NOT beat Alastor. It was either the opposite or there was no physical fight at all in the first place.

And weakened Alastor rivaling Vox in a fight doesn't make any sense at all if Vox beated his FP. Atp I'm convinced you're just purposefully trying to cling to anything that downplays regardless of how reasonable the logic behind it is.
 
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It's a discussion for another thread, but Vox being comparable to a weakened Alastor when he beat a full powered Alastor years prior does make a valid concern regarding Alastor's scaling to someone Vox implies he didn't even know was killable in the first place. But that's for when that episode drops, so not a concern yet.

Until then, War seems to wash over them (and probably still would even if Alastor had that tier 7 stuff)
Counted
 
I think you can understand my motives behind that if you look at the first sentence of the OP. It's also in one of my comments there when grace happened.
Unless it's a spite thread i genuinely couldn't care less why you made it and i'm not going to investigate your old replies to figure out why either. I have better things to do with my time.
Anyways, you yourself agreed to Vox part in my thread where I definitively proved that Vox did NOT beat Alastor. It was either the opposite or there was no physical fight at all in the first place.
I told you very directly to wait until season 2 since Vox and Alastor were going to actually fight on screen. You had me down as agreeing with that section this entire time?
And weakened Alastor rivaling Vox in a fight doesn't make any sense at all if Vox beated his FP. Atp I'm convinced you're just purposefully trying to cling to anything that downplays regardless of how reasonable the logic behind it is.
Your thread did give the implication that the other vees did get involved, (Which seems to be the popular theory and potentially canon considering Val and Vel) but that still means the three of them are able to contend with, albeit are weaker, to a full power Alastor.

So even by your own logic Vox still scales to a full power Alastor (albeit weaker) but somehow manages to be rivaled by weakened Alastor, hence the scaling issue i'm seeing.

This is the final reply on this situation i'm doing here. It's unrelated to what's actually going on here and is going to go nowhere. We may go to the general discussion if you want to continue this.
 
Unless it's a spite thread i genuinely couldn't care less why you made it and i'm not going to investigate your old replies to figure out why either. I have better things to do with my time.
Then don't bring it up. Simple.
Yea. My bad then.
Your thread did give the implication that the other vees did get involved, (Which seems to be the popular theory and potentially canon considering Val and Vel) but that still means the three of them are able to contend with, albeit are weaker, to a full power Alastor.
So even by your own logic Vox still scales to a full power Alastor (albeit weaker) but somehow manages to be rivaled by weakened Alastor, hence the scaling issue i'm seeing.
My main argument is that fight never was physical. Alastor vs. Vox conflict was always about influence and radio vs. video. The physical fight option was a secondary one to show that it doesn't help Vox either way since it would still imply that Vox lost and other Vees interfered. It could have been a sneak attack help for all we know, so it doesn't definitely prove that they were comparable to him.

Vox himself HATES this incident, cursing at Val for reminding that. Seems like it was a rather unpleasant situation for him even according to the guy you are trying to wank off so hardly.

 
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