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Izuku Midoriya (Final Act) VS Kamen Rider Geats (Pre-Ascension): Clash Of Heroes (1-12-0) MATCH DONE

CastoriceTheFifth said:
@Shadowslash125 i know you saw the question 😭. If Deku’s Amps are pretty much useless, his opponent still gets stronger with their own amps, and the absurd skill gap, what is bros win con.
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I tend to read the site while I eat, so I can't reply yet. It's even worse considering I'm at a self-grill BBQ. I (or someone else) will answer it.
 
Like one thing is where a match gets created that neutralizes Deku’s amps so it isn’t a fa Jin gearshift gg feast. That’s cool and all but his opponent skill stomps Deku to hell and back on top of having their own amps. What is Deku supposed to do here.
 
To be fair, Geats just benefits from Deku amps by 'copying' it. If you want, I can put him in his highest form, so you only have to deal with the stat neutralisation. Command Twin Raising form even has the caveat that he can only use a sword till the energy is full. He won't have his own amps then. How about that?
Also his mobility doesn't include flight save for certain forms (one of which can only be accessed if he hits Deku enough).
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
@Shadowslash125 i know you saw the question 😭. If Deku’s Amps are pretty much useless, his opponent still gets stronger with their own amps, and the absurd skill gap, what is bros win con.
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Deku has pseudo-flight and shockwaves, which Geat lacks.
Deku's DC is also on a different level, so he can knock the ground out from under his opponent, destroying the ground beneath them, and attack Kamen Rider when they are in freefall and unable to dodge.
 
Actually, is there a chance he doesn't just go all out 100% full cowl or overlay? If so, he'd notice Geats can keep up with him, and do something smarter?
 
Shadowslash125 said:
To be fair, Geats just benefits from Deku amps by 'copying' it. If you want, I can put him in his highest form, so you only have to deal with the stat neutralisation. Command Twin Raising form even has the caveat that he can only use a sword till the energy is full. He won't have his own amps then. How about that?
Also his mobility doesn't include flight save for certain forms (one of which can only be accessed if he hits Deku enough).
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If thats the fairest it can become then sure because the current fight is absurd right now 😭
Shadowslash125 said:
Actually, is there a chance he doesn't just go all out 100% full cowl or overlay? If so, he'd notice Geats can keep up with him, and do something smarter?
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CastoriceTheFifth said:
If thats the fairest it can become then sure because the current fight is absurd right now 😭
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Will change when I get back.

CastoriceTheFifth said:
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Didn't stop Child Emperor from going toe-to-toe with him. Though this wasn't with his boost amps (not desire amp)
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Isamu vs Kamen Rider Geats (Tiersetter Tourney R1M7)

Two heavy tech users face off as part of my 7-C tourney. Isamu's gear will put him at 16.06 Kilotons. Umbrella Shield and Brave Giant will be restricted. Kamen Rider Geats will be in his Encounter Arc key, starting in Monster Form, with Boost Buckle restricted, putting his AP at 4.7 Kilotons...
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Shadowslash125 said:
Didn't stop Child Emperor from going toe-to-toe with him. Though this wasn't with his boost amps (not desire amp)
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Isamu vs Kamen Rider Geats (Tiersetter Tourney R1M7)

Two heavy tech users face off as part of my 7-C tourney. Isamu's gear will put him at 16.06 Kilotons. Umbrella Shield and Brave Giant will be restricted. Kamen Rider Geats will be in his Encounter Arc key, starting in Monster Form, with Boost Buckle restricted, putting his AP at 4.7 Kilotons...
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I don't remember much, but isn't Emperor able to go toe-to-toe with Geats mainly because of his machine guns? Doesn't matter how skilled you are against precog users, if you don't have feats showing him keep up with great rapid fire then eh. Deku doesn’t have such thing here (DC’s kinda useless if you can’t land hits on him repeatedly)
 
Shadowslash125 said:
Actually, is there a chance he doesn't just go all out 100% full cowl or overlay? If so, he'd notice Geats can keep up with him, and do something smarter?
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With Deku’s intelligence, and that he usually doesn’t start full send 100% in fights at first if I’m not wrong, he’d noticed that Geats is able to match him toe-to-toe even as he raises his power and speed. And he’d find it strange that Geats would only go equal, but not above him in strength. With the help of vestiges in analyzing Geats, Deku can conclude that Geats has the ability to match equally his power and speed, not more.

Thus, Deku would save his trump cards, Fa jin and especially gearshift, to only when he has a decisive move to victory, trying to prevent Geats from also matching his powers with the two quirks.

Tho this is only in terms of how Deku usually fights iirc. Actually against Geats’ skill is another matter entirely.
 
Chronster said:
With Deku’s intelligence, and that he usually doesn’t start full send 100% in fights at first if I’m not wrong, he’d noticed that Geats is able to match him toe-to-toe even as he raises his power and speed. And he’d find it strange that Geats would only go equal, but not above him in strength. With the help of vestiges in analyzing Geats, Deku can conclude that Geats has the ability to match equally his power and speed, not more.

Thus, Deku would save his trump cards, Fa jin and especially gearshift, to only when he has a decisive move to victory, trying to prevent Geats from also matching his powers with the two quirks.

Tho this is only in terms of how Deku usually fights iirc. Actually against Geats’ skill is another matter entirely.
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Until you realize what Deku’s standard tactics are on the profile 😭
 
There is this guy, arguably making this fight more thematic since they have similar personalities, and he isn't as skilled as Geats here (he is still in the skill chain tho). He even fits to the point I don't need to change the music!

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Kamen Rider Tycoon

Keiwa Sakurai (桜井さくらい 景和けいわ, Sakurai Keiwa?) is the secondary protagonist of Kamen Rider Geats, who's a college student with a noble goal of brining world peace however he can. One day, he was thrusted into the front row seat of an ongoing Desire Grand Prix finale match, where he and another...
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Ok, so there's a few options.
A. Restrict his form amps
B. Change his character
C. Buffa Vs Shigaraki.

Thoughts everyone?
 
I'm back and so, I will de-escalate as slowly as possible (a deku fight is still a must since Buffa vs Shigaraki was planned to come later).
I'll start off by having Geats be in Fever Boost Time, which would make him 7-B (without desire amp), where he's purely fighting with his fists. He has a weakness where he loses the boost time when he does specific moves, so you bet your ass he'd lose that form, and he'll be without the boost buckle. Hence, losing out on any amps that would inevitably outstat Deku (I am of course restricting command twin buckle, so he'd have his magnum and fever buckles). Also, I'll give him prior knowledge about how skilled he is, so he can use his brains too.
 
NikHelton said:
I have several questions that will influence my choice:

1) Does Geats Deku resist Soul Hax?
2) How good is his analytical prediction?
3) How good is his AD?
4) Does stat leveling occur after being hit or when the opponent increases stats?
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NikHelton said:
1) A question for those knowledgeable in MHA: is soul damage equivalent to physical damage, or does every attack by Deku destroy the soul? What are the consequences of minor soul damage?
2) Geat's and the other Riders' analytical predictions are too cartoonish, so Deku won't be able to land a single clean hit on the enemy and is forced to rely on unexpected combinations of his abilities and covering the entire battlefield with shockwaves.
3) When Deku uses Fa Jin + Gear, he's dead. These are temporary boosts that accelerate him to blitz levels and increase his AP by more than 5x. However, after the timer expires, he will return to his base stats, and Geat will retain the advantage. However, I believe Deku will notice the enemy's peculiarity and won't use this combination.

Geat Low Diff
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1. Deku can transfer OFA in such a violent way that it can damage the soul.
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And damage to the soul/spirit will also transfer onto the receiver's physical body.
As seen when Deku himself lost his arms after getting his soul partially decayed.

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2. Deku's analytical prediction is decent, as he was able to analyze Lemillion's movements and speed to find out where and when he would pop out after going underground, and Final War Arc Deku should just be vastly superior to that.

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He can also predict and analyze the movements of people he can't even perceive (Basically just a lesser version of what Meruem does)

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3. Fa Jin lets him store up to 5x the full force of OFA, which he can either release through his fists for a quintuple smash (a combination of 5 Detroit Smashes at once), or through the legs with Faux 100% to boost his speed to the point where even 45% was enough to cross hundreds of meters while completely statuing the same special bullets that he could previously barely keep up with. It works by storing up his KE, so theoretically he can become even stronger and faster if he has enough time to charge it up, though he would likely injure himself. Gearshift is even faster, as higher gears allow him to blitz opponents who are on par with his previous speed. Not to mention that one touch from Gearshift can freeze you in place for up to 5 minutes (more since Deku can go beyond his limits), and it would let Deku do whatever he wants until he loses steam.

Edit: Worth noting that even if Deku is severely injured and can't fight back on his own, he can just puppet his own body with Black Whip and continue fighting until he just drops dead
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Welp, we have one guy who thinks it's a stomp and one guy who doesn't (only counting deku supporters)
 
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