[SEMIFINALS/FINALS] 1st Island Ravagers Tournament - Prime Tomato vs. Novua (0-3-0)

[ExSENNA]

Welcome to the Semifinals of the 1st Island Ravagers Tournament! (Bracket) (Event Leaderboard)

On the blue corner, we have Prime Tomato, submitted by @FlipLaScript
On the red corner, we have Novua, submitted by @VeneficaAuthor
Duel 7, let's go!

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Tomato is 370 Gigatons. Novua is 70 Gigatons. Tomato has a 5.2x AP Advantage

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Prime Tomato is used.
Novua's Regeneration, Breath Attack, Deconstruction, Explosion Manipulation restricted (Thus this cannot be added onto the profiles)
Anything above High 6-C is restricted.
Starting distance is 20 meters.
Everything else is SBA.


Tomato:
Novua:3
Incon (coin flip):

 

[ExSENNA]

The winner of this match at the very least guarantees Silver Medal!​

 

[SSB64]

Time for some roast tomato.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Not sure why it says breath attack is restricted, without that she basically cant attack at all without just like clawing and wing attacks and such, unless this is just referring to the plasma flames specifically that she can normally deal out

Anyway, same deal as before, Novua's main attacks involve intense heat and strong radiation. It will be very difficult to beat her without a counter for one or both of them.

 

[ExSENNA]

Not sure why it says breath attack is restricted, without that she basically cant attack at all without just like clawing and wing attacks and such, unless this is just referring to the plasma flames specifically that she can normally deal out

Anyway, same deal as before, Novua's main attacks involve intense heat and strong radiation. It will be very difficult to beat her without a counter for one or both of them.

Ngl I didn't pay attention and just copy pasted whatevet Flip wrote in the previous match in terms of restrictions

If she wins without it than that's fine if she seems to closely losing I may progressicely unrestrict more and more of her stuff to see what happens

 

[FlipLaScript]

Time for some roast tomato.

damn bruh, what did I do

Anyway, same deal as before, Novua's main attacks involve intense heat and strong radiation. It will be very difficult to beat her without a counter for one or both of them.

While he has nothing to ignore the radiation, he likely has enough to deal with the extreme heat. >:3

Novua's heat is specified with 2 values, being 300,000 degrees celsius in base and about 550,000 degrees when enraged. Prime Tomato's heat was able to vaporize Helse Syr, that of whom had Novice Surel Physiology (at the time, he upgrades to advanced levels later). Characters with this type of physiology are able to easily tank heat up to 5,200 degrees celsius (scaling off of Experiment 88 being unaffected while within the earth's core). Despite this, Prime Tomato vaporized the dude. Presuming an 8x modifier for vaporization (This is based off the one-shot modifier, which has been used in previous threads I've been a part of for other stats), that's 41600 degrees celsius that he's dishing out and able to tank due to the aura enveloping his hands and being unaffected by it. After presumably dying via that vaporization, Helse Syr gained Advanced Surel Physiology, in which he was unaffected by Prime Tomato's heat. Nevertheless, Helse Syr was reduced to absolutely nothing via vaporization with that heat later on in the bout, which, using the 8x modifier again as a base, would be 332800 degrees celsius.

That means that the dude would have a resistance to 41600 celsius in his second form and 332800 in his 3rd, both values upscaling, which is enough to resist her heat in his 3rd form and barely so in his 2nd. He's also incredibly likely to switch to his 3rd form quickly after just being around Novua (if the radiation and heat wasnt enough to already push him to those levels, any attacks from her are also likely to do so given her durability negating properties, as he transitioned to his 3rd form from his second after getting batted by Helse Syr a mere 2 times).

Before I continue, I'm going to need to ask exactly how quickly her radiation could off an opponent by itself. If quick enough, this could be an easy win in her favor :0

 

[SSB64]

damn bruh, what did I do

You're going up against a member of Team Venefica Chronicles.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

That means that the dude would have a resistance to 41600 celsius in his second form and 332800 in his 3rd, both values upscaling, which is enough to resist her heat

Only at first. Once she is enraged the value nearly doubles.

Before I continue, I'm going to need to ask exactly how quickly her radiation could off an opponent by itself. If quick enough, this could be an easy win in her favor :0

Direct hits by her radiation blast can cause instant deformities, so even without that as it gets spread around stuff like that would just begin to occur naturally. Depends on how the fight plays out, mostly. Since she could go guns blazing and use as many attacks as possible or she could not use them much if the dude wants to fight her in close. But he also risks a direct hit much more that way.

Could be anywhere from right away to like ten minutes depending on how it -plays out, honestly

 

[SSB64]

Hmmmmmmm..... A bit premature, but I'm leaning towards Novua. Looking at their pages, it seems like Novua generally has more means to fight off Prime Tomato, as well as put him into more dangerous situations. Sure his heat tolerance is good, but without radiation resistance, he's probably gonna be in a lot of trouble in the long run.

 

[FlipLaScript]

Direct hits by her radiation blast can cause instant deformities, so even without that as it gets spread around stuff like that would just begin to occur naturally. Depends on how the fight plays out, mostly. Since she could go guns blazing and use as many attacks as possible or she could not use them much if the dude wants to fight her in close. But he also risks a direct hit much more that way.

Novua's starting tactic is to fire her laser. If the heat and/or radiation coming off of her wasn't warning enough, this will definitely be enough to cause Prime Tomato to go into his third form. Here, he'll probably try to get in close (due to her having shown off ranged abilities) and attack her as efficiently as possible. I'm pretty sure this is hinted at in his page, but his main strategy is overwhelming force - he'll likely use a mix of his clones & speed amps in order to try and defeat her, with telekinesis to use for mid to far ranges if needed :0

 

[Rayfire]

Watching

 

[ExSENNA]

harika kombat

Wow semifinal is on

 

[ExSENNA]

Why did this die

 

[FlipLaScript]

Why did this die

I just need a response from Vene in terms of how Novua would react, both in terms of personality and in terms of radiation...given the 5.2x AP advantage, it's likely that Prime Tomato would be able to off her in under 10 minutes, but if the radiation is an instant kill it wont matter

 

[ExSENNA]

I just need a response from Vene in terms of how Novua would react, both in terms of personality and in terms of radiation...given the 5.2x AP advantage, it's likely that Prime Tomato would be able to off her in under 10 minutes, but if the radiation is an instant kill it wont matter

I suppose she insta-kills if she lands on a critical area (face, head) but otherwise it may still maim and deform the body through radiation

So if they were to brawl Tomato would get messed up faster than she would, despite the AP gap

Novua also seems to have really good senses

 

[FlipLaScript]

I suppose she insta-kills if she lands on a critical area (face, head) but otherwise it may still maim and deform the body through radiation

So if they were to brawl Tomato would get messed up faster than she would, despite the AP gap

Novua also seems to have really good senses

Senses are hard to listen to if you have 10 guys attacking you faster than you can react to them though >:3

Something that I also didn't mention yet was Prime Tomato's aura, a fear-inducing kind to be specific, that of which would make enhanced senses far harder to listen to :0

 

[ExSENNA]

Senses are hard to listen to if you have 10 guys attacking you faster than you can react to them though >:3

Something that I also didn't mention yet was Prime Tomato's aura, a fear-inducing kind to be specific, that of which would make enhanced senses far harder to listen to :0

Idk man I just went along with whatever that is on the page

Where is Vene lol

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Novua's starting tactic is to fire her laser. If the heat and/or radiation coming off of her wasn't warning enough, this will definitely be enough to cause Prime Tomato to go into his third form. Here, he'll probably try to get in close (due to her having shown off ranged abilities) and attack her as efficiently as possible. I'm pretty sure this is hinted at in his page, but his main strategy is overwhelming force - he'll likely use a mix of his clones & speed amps in order to try and defeat her, with telekinesis to use for mid to far ranges if needed :0

Novua's attacks also have a potent blinding effect, do they resist that? It even worked on Miro, who was unaffected by his own lightning explosions and such.

If she screams she screws with gravity.

She could freeze or slow their movement with her own TK.

She has numerous options to still counter this.

 

[ExSENNA]

He is back let's gooo

 

[FlipLaScript]

Novua's attacks also have a potent blinding effect, do they resist that? It even worked on Miro, who was unaffected by his own lightning explosions and such. If she screams she screws with gravity. She could freeze or slow their movement with her own TK.

She has numerous options to still counter this.

Is she still going to be capable of doing all of this as easily while being hit by his fear aura? He also has forcefields for this exact reason of close-range attacks, which he was able to activate before Helse Syr was even able to swing. Prime Tomato also has a solid option for far ranges if needed, with telekinesis available for chucking large objects and regeneration (albeit varying) available for the radiation deformities :3

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Is she still going to be capable of doing all of this as easily while being hit by his fear aura? He also has forcefields for this exact reason of close-range attacks, which he was able to activate before Helse Syr was even able to swing. Prime Tomato also has a solid option for far ranges if needed, with telekinesis available for chucking large objects and regeneration (albeit varying) available for the radiation deformities :3

I doubt he can regenerate a deformity or mutation unless he’s just cutting those parts off.

She has her own tk… should at least cancel his out.

Saying the aura has fear inducement doesn’t mean much, and the profile also just says he has it. No feats or anything. If all he’s doing is just making her feel fear it’s just gonna tick her off faster. She’s not the type to cower and run. Think about a corned wild animal. That’s what you’ll get out of Novua with the fear aura. If anything, it’s a detriment to tomato to have it on.

 

[FlipLaScript]

I doubt he can regenerate a deformity or mutation unless he’s just cutting those parts off.

If it's internal damage via them then it can be healed unless too severe, otherwise fair enough

She has her own tk… should at least cancel his out.

The TK only has one feat names of slowing down someone, and that's just her freezing them. If it is actually telekinesis-based, Prime Tomato will be able to break out of it with his heavy LS advantage, thus being ineffective :0

Saying the aura has fear inducement doesn’t mean much, and the profile also just says he has it. No feats or anything.

That's because Surel users have a natural resistance to fear manipulation of any kind and no one else was around while he activated it

If all he’s doing is just making her feel fear it’s just gonna tick her off faster. She’s not the type to cower and run. Think about a corned wild animal. That’s what you’ll get out of Novua with the fear aura. If anything, it’s a detriment to tomato to have it on.

Not entirely? As per her standard tactics, getting her irritated causes her to delve into more of her fire attacks rather than her other abilities (doesn't mean that she stops using them entirely, just that she would use it less). Getting her further enraged would get her to the point that her attacks become more deadly but less tactical, which could be a problem but would be easier to overcome with the clones, combat IQ & speed amp >:3

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

The TK only has one feat names of slowing down someone, and that's just her freezing them. If it is actually telekinesis-based, Prime Tomato will be able to break out of it with his heavy LS advantage, thus being ineffective :0

She can make it stronger by absorbing his psychic energy though?

Not entirely? As per her standard tactics, getting her irritated causes her to delve into more of her fire attacks rather than her other abilities (doesn't mean that she stops using them entirely, just that she would use it less). Getting her further enraged would get her to the point that her attacks become more deadly but less tactical, which could be a problem but would be easier to overcome with the clones, combat IQ & speed amp >:3

She has her own speed amp actually, Plasma Wings makes her six times faster. Plus her maximum heat output surpasses his maximum resistance. Plus plus they risk her aura when they anger her.

 

[FlipLaScript]

She can make it stronger by absorbing his psychic energy though?

The only thing he's exporting in his 3rd form is his own life energy, unless she can absorb that then she'd be outta luck

She has her own speed amp actually, Plasma Wings makes her six times faster. Plus her maximum heat output surpasses his maximum resistance. Plus plus they risk her aura when they anger her.

a 6x speed amp is still less than a 60x speed amp, and still to a 10x blitzing extent >:3

That is true, but only to a little under a 2x extent. Since she's able to tank multiple of his 5.2x stronger strikes, it's likely that he'd be able to tank her >2x heat advantage :]

The aura description states that it can be overcome (as Waru did so), despite it stacking status effects. Presuming this is via sheer strength, it can be done with his AP advantage :>

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

The only thing he's exporting in his 3rd form is his own life energy, unless she can absorb that then she'd be outta luck

Should be able to if he’s manifesting it outwardly. This would give her whatever powers he is able to use with it.

a 6x speed amp is still less than a 60x speed amp, and still to a 10x blitzing extent >:3

No way a 60 times speed amp character was allowed in the tourney, doesn’t matter what anyone has at that point…

That is true, but only to a little under a 2x extent. Since she's able to tank multiple of his 5.2x stronger strikes, it's likely that he'd be able to tank her >2x heat advantage :]

Not really how heat works, he can tank the ap of the blast but the heat works regardless.

The aura description states that it can be overcome (as Waru did so), despite it stacking status effects. Presuming this is via sheer strength, it can be done with his AP advantage :>

Waru has a special ability which allows him to overcome what most others can’t and gain resistances to these things. That’s why he was a terrible matchup for Novua.

 

[FlipLaScript]

Should be able to if he’s manifesting it outwardly. This would give her whatever powers he is able to use with it.

No way a 60 times speed amp character was allowed in the tourney, doesn’t matter what anyone has at that point…

As per SBA, the speed amp will be restricted/ignored if it's a focal point, so dw about that :0

Not really how heat works, he can tank the ap of the blast but the heat works regardless.

How is heat not comparable to the other stats & abilities that use the 8x one-shot multiplier? If it can be safely used for AP and LS (and even heat in previous matches, such as Prime Tomato's with Luz), how does it not work for heat?

Plus, 332800 degrees celsius outlasts her base 300000 degrees celsius heat. Even when she's enraged, it's only 1.65264423x hotter than that resistance, it should be more than enough to resist it

Waru has a special ability which allows him to overcome what most others can’t and gain resistances to these things. That’s why he was a terrible matchup for Novua.

So it's just an unbreakable aura that cant be bypassed due to stacked status effects?

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

How is heat not comparable to the other stats & abilities that use the 8x one-shot multiplier? If it can be safely used for AP and LS (and even heat in previous matches, such as Prime Tomato's with Luz), how does it not work for heat?

The heat will still be effective in some fashion, it won’t be outright tanked like a regular physical would be since it mostly ignores durability but doesn’t negate it outright. So his resistance is helpful but not total in this case since she surpasses it. Plus her heat is like 550,000 when she’s enraged so not sure why you keep mentioning her 300,000 like that’s as high as she goes. And her plasma is even hotter than her fire.

So it's just an unbreakable aura that cant be bypassed due to stacked status effects?

It can be overcome but he basically used reactive evolution to do it and developed a resistance to what it does. Its sparks also cause deconstruction which im not sure tomato has a resistance to or not. She can’t directly manipulate these, but it does create a good deal of them, so tomato and the clones will have a hard time approaching and causing lasting damage. I didn’t see reactive evolution on the profile so he’ll need another way to bypass it.

 

[FlipLaScript]

The heat will still be effective in some fashion, it won’t be outright tanked like a regular physical would be since it mostly ignores durability but doesn’t negate it outright. So his resistance is helpful but not total in this case since she surpasses it. Plus her heat is like 550,000 when she’s enraged so not sure why you keep mentioning her 300,000 like that’s as high as she goes. And her plasma is even hotter than her fire.

I did mention it, she has a 1.65264423x heat advantage when she's enraged

I'm going to throw my vote for Novua here, not just because Prime Tomato is severely outclassed and she'd likely win due to hax alone but also because discussing this is kinda tiring, Novua FRA :3

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I'm going to throw my vote for Novua here, not just because Prime Tomato is severely outclassed and she'd likely win due to hax alone but also because discussing this is kinda tiring, Novua FRA :3

Understandable but how come it’s tiring for you? I hope I didn’t do anything wrong, lol

Anyway yeah novua FRA

 

[SSB64]

Novua FRA for GRACE!

 

[FlipLaScript]

Understandable but how come it’s tiring for you? I hope I didn’t do anything wrong, lol

Not you lol, now that the RP-verse's cosmology got rejected I'm trying to find another new thing to throw all of my effort into :3