Mirio Togata (Lemillion) Vs Ken Kaneki (My Hero Academia Vs Tokyo Ghoul) [9-7-0]

[JoeDM021]

She's not even participating in this match

mistype bro calm down

 

[NikHelton]

Ok but how is he supposed to hit lemillion. My question wasn't answered.

Lemillion doesn't use his ability constantly. Kaneki only needs to wait until he needs to breathe. Lemillion also needs to make his fist tangible before striking. Kaneki will take advantage of the opportunity. Did that answer your question?

 

[NikHelton]

mistype bro calm down

I won't calm down, I'll keep replaying this moment in my head for the rest of my life, and when I go crazy, I'll find you by IP

 

[JoeDM021]

I won't calm down, I'll keep replaying this moment in my head for the rest of my life, and when I go crazy, I'll find you by IP

yea im making goku fight 1 quadrillion kaneki's cuz of that-

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Ok but how is he supposed to hit lemillion. My question wasn't answered.

I dont know either

"I would like to say that Mirio's ability to dodge, even without his Quirk is pretty good. While Quirkless, he avoided Chisaki's attacks for 5 minutes. He didn't just survive either. He was able to hit Chisaki multiple times, and protect Eri from him as well. You can tell the former because Chisaki has more injuries than the last time we saw him.

Chisaki is trying to hurt Eri because he's the only one who can heal her. If she took damage, Mirio would have no choice but to give her to him in order to save her life. A single touch from Chisaki, even a single finger, is instant death as well. However, what's most important in the insane AOE Chisaki can unleash with his Quirk.

Yet he failed to kill Mirio or even scratch Eri in that amount of time. Even 20% Izuku, who is faster than Mirio, and has Analytical Prediction as well, struggles to avoid Chisaki's spikes. This is an extremely impressive feat, since Chisaki's spikes are Low 7-B and could easily impale straight through him.

Mirio's movements are pretty solid as well. While under the effects of a Quirk that made him lose his sense of equilibrium, he can still bounce around and attack like this. His precision with his Quirk is extremely good as well, being able to phase through Eri's head and land a hit on the person holding her.

He can also phase through the hand of someone attempting to catch his punch. So trying to block his attacks is pointless, dodging would be the best bet."

 

[Arkansalter2]

Kaneki only needs to wait until he needs to breathe.

I mean thats cool but theres also this:

Lemillion being unable to breathe while intangible isn’t overlooked. He never gets pushed into a situation where he’s pulling a guldo gasping for air. He always breathes when he’s not in permeation, which is basically to attack.

 

[NikHelton]

yea im making goku fight 1 quadrillion kaneki's cuz of that-

I suggest making a thread along the lines of "How many Immortals does it take to defeat Konquest?" Just with Goku and Kaneki.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I mean thats cool but theres also this:

Yeah itll be annoying as hell to even try to attempt on exploiting that

Just gonna correct you real quick.

Mirio doesnt need to dive underground to avoid getting hit. He just cant get hit at all while in permeation.



The quirk is so annoying enough that Shigaraki couldnt be bothered attacking him and just ignored him.

Im pretty sure being able to cover Mirio constantly is like the bare minimum because all these hands and none of them could land a hit on him

 

[NikHelton]

I mean thats cool but theres also this:

Do you have any examples of him fighting an opponent 1-on-1 for over an hour and actively using this ability? Yes, Shigaraki didn't waste time on him, but that was simply because it was the heat of the battle. If he'd decided to devote a few minutes to Lemillion, he would have certainly died.
In the battle with Overhaul, he fought him for some time without his quirk and was exhausted. This already suggests that his endurance has its limits.

 

[NikHelton]

Yeah itll be annoying as hell to even try to attempt on exploiting that

Those hands didn't hit any of the other characters in the room either, lmao.

Shigaraki just didn't waste his time on him. That's not an argument.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Do you have any examples of him fighting an opponent 1-on-1 for over an hour and actively using this ability? Yes, Shigaraki didn't waste time on him, but that was simply because it was the heat of the battle. If he'd decided to devote a few minutes to Lemillion, he would have certainly died.
In the battle with Overhaul, he fought him for some time without his quirk and was exhausted. This already suggests that his endurance has its limits.

Stamina: Superhuman (Superior to most Pro Heroes and high-ranking heroes in training, who can fight for hours on end.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Ok but how is he supposed to hit lemillion. My question wasn't answered.

Lemillions intangibility isn't passive, he just catches him off guard with IA

 

[NikHelton]

Stamina: Superhuman (Superior to most Pro Heroes and high-ranking heroes in training, who can fight for hours on end.

Yes, but fighting and fighting with a Quirk that restricts your breathing are not the same thing.

For example, ukaku ghouls have low stamina due to their kagune. Investigators can exert themselves at their maximum for hours. Shirazu is a Quinx with an ukaku-type. He can fight for hours, but that doesn't mean he can use his ukaku kagune for hours.

It's the same with Lemillion. I have no doubt he can perform heroically for hours. But can he use his Quirk for hours while being actively spammed with attacks? If we don't have proof of this, then claiming he's capable of it is fundamentally wrong.

 

[Arkenis]

voting Mirio

 

[Xaropadob3ta]

Let's go Lemillion!
Mirio Fra

 

[DarthSorox]

Stamina: Superhuman (Superior to most Pro Heroes and high-ranking heroes in training, who can fight for hours on end.

A general training program doesn't mean he can use an ability that directly impacts his stamina for hours on end by holding his breath. As long as he stays out of breath, Kaneki won't be harmed and will grow stronger.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Im back on my pc for a little

I mean thats cool but theres also this:

phantom menace gg

Do yall have votes

 

[Kaio1277999]

Lemillion FRA

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Tbf most UA training programs generally force you to keep spaming ur quirk



that said mirio usually never stays intangible forever and would more than likely get hit at some point due to kanekis level of forcasting and him actually dealing with people just as adaptive as him

 

[NikHelton]

Lemillion FRA

Let's go Lemillion!
Mirio Fra

mistype bro calm down

Can someone explain to me what stops Kaneki from biting off Lemillion's fingers when his fist becomes tangible for a punch? Considering Kaneki's perception is slow and he reads his attacks.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Has mirio even dealt with legitimate IA before?

 

[NikHelton]

Tbf most UA training programs generally force you to keep spaming ur quirk



that said mirio usually never stays intangible forever and would more than likely get hit at some point due to kanekis level of forcasting and him actually dealing with people just as adaptive as him

To be fair, their Quirk isn't based on holding their breath, and Lemillion always had time to catch his breath. But he's never shown the ability to fight for hours using his Quirk while being actively spammed with attacks.

 

[NikHelton]

By the way, why is everyone overlooking the kakuju? It provides enough of a speed boost that Lemillion simply won't notice Kaneki. As soon as he becomes corporeal, he'll be destroyed.

 

[Machmatej]

Changing my vote to Kaneki. He seems to have better stamina and blunt force trauma seems ineffective here. Lemillion can only hit and run, Kaneki is smart enough to find a way around that.

 

[Viott]

I vote for Kaneki.

Kaneki can easily evade Lemillion’s attacks thanks to his ANPR. In addition, since Kaneki has resistance to Analytical Prediction, Lemillion cannot dodge Kaneki’s attacks.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

@CastoriceTheFifth 9-8 in kanekis favor btw

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Kinky FRA

 

[NikHelton]

@CastoriceTheFifth 9-8 in kanekis favor btw

Didn't Laser vote for Kaneki?

 

[NikHelton]

Kinky FRA

Kinky Party?

 

[Arkenis]

By the way, why is everyone overlooking the kakuju? It provides enough of a speed boost that Lemillion simply won't notice Kaneki. As soon as he becomes corporeal, he'll be destroyed.

He starts out in it.

votes

Can you give clarification on this? Either I'm missing something or you already put Kaneki starting off in his MCB value which is kakuja.

 

[NikHelton]

He starts out in it.


Can you give clarification on this? Either I'm missing something or you already put Kaneki starting off in his MCB value which is kakuja.

No. Basic Kaneki in EoS Part 1 is already 8-A for defeating Hirako, who could deal deep damage to Kuzen and Mogan. Basic Amon also dealt damage to Scolopendra and withstood its attack, but he was trampled by Basic Kaneki at the end of the story.

 

[Arkenis]

No. Basic Kaneki in EoS Part 1 is already 8-A for defeating Hirako, who could deal deep damage to Kuzen and Mogan. Basic Amon also dealt damage to Scolopendra and withstood its attack, but he was trampled by Basic Kaneki at the end of the story.

The page doesn't say that

At least City Block level+ (Tore apart Jason's Kakuja with his bare hands while using his Kagune), up to Multi-City Block level+ (With his incomplete Kakuja, he incapacitated Yukinori Shinohara with a single hit while Shinohara was wearing Arata, which even the Non-Killing Owl was unable to do),

 

[NikHelton]

The page doesn't say that

At least City Block level+ (Tore apart Jason's Kakuja with his bare hands while using his Kagune), up to Multi-City Block level+ (With his incomplete Kakuja, he incapacitated Yukinori Shinohara with a single hit while Shinohara was wearing Arata, which even the Non-Killing Owl was unable to do),

Sorry, I phrased it poorly that way. I'll fix it when I get home.
We have 8-B Kaneki with 8-A kakuja and 8-A Kaneki, higher with kakuja.

 

[NikHelton]

We need someone who can make Kaneki's profile look like Genos and Luffy's so his keys are more organized.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

wincons for both?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

wincons for both?

Lemillion: outlasting while using intangibility to phase through kanekis attacks

kaneki: adapting and using his superior analytical prediction and AD to hit him

 

[NikHelton]

wincons for both?

Lemillion: He can become intangible while holding his breath and deftly maneuver through walls. Kaneki can't hit him while Lemillion is intangible. He also has analytical prediction.

Kaneki: Accelerated perception, mid-regen, AD, kakuja with blitz amp, analytical prediction, more lethal attacks.

It all boils down to either Lemillion harassing Kaneki for hours while avoiding his attacks, or Kaneki being able to catch him and kill him. The first option seems doubtful to me due to Kaneki's regeneration and the fact that Lemillion himself could become tired during those hours of combat.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

How long has Lemillion lasted in a fight? Profile says he should be comparable to others who can fight four hours on end.

Kaneki for his part was able to fight in top condition after 7-10 days of being tortured and starved.

Since this just depends on who gets tired loses, my first impression is that Kaneki just outlasts Mirio with a few days to spare at worst

 

[Arkenis]

Kaneki for his part was able to fight in top condition after 7-10 days of being tortured and starved.

Not the same as a fight but ok.

 

[Arkansalter2]

I just found out that Lemillion only has to hold his breath while his full body is intangible. He doesn't have to otherwise.