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Kai Chisaki (Overhaul) VS Ken Kaneki (My Hero Academia Vs Tokyo Ghoul) [12-3.5-0]
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If Decon is instant, it's a stomp. The match can be fixed with prior knowledge, but I have a better idea.
We can use a Post-Rose key, where Kaneki will have partial resistance to Deconstruction for his kagune. This way, both can one-shot each other, but the match will be more interesting.
We can use a Post-Rose key, where Kaneki will have partial resistance to Deconstruction for his kagune. This way, both can one-shot each other, but the match will be more interesting.
Machmatej
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Post-Rose, you say?
But no, the decon isn't instant. It's just really fast. And on some occasions, it can blow someone up with a mere finger, and on other occasions it can only take out an arm even if Overhaul touches you with his whole hand. It seems that you can limit how much the deconstruction spreads if you can move away from his touch fast enough.
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Considering that all the voters' arguments are based on "he only needs to touch him," and Kaneki has no knowledge of his opponent's strength, this is a sham.Post-Rose, you say?
But no, the decon isn't instant. It's just really fast. And on some occasions, it can blow someone up with a mere finger, and on other occasions it can only take out an arm even if Overhaul touches you with his whole hand. It seems that you can limit how much the deconstruction spreads if you can move away from his touch fast enough.
Post-Rose Kaneki can one-shot Chisaki, and his kagune won't be affected by deconstruction. Thus, Kaneki will have partial resistance and a stat advantage, while Chisaki has the ability to one-shot Kaneki with direct contact and higher AP.
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Machmatej
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Meruem bullies him badly
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How it's work?
Arkenis
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Check his page and check the Nen page.
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Do you mean Ken will grow old from Nen or what?
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Tsubone*Did we... won?
No, Kaneki... that was Pouf
Arkenis
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No I mean what the pages say about nen crush.
Machmatej
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Pre-Rose Meruem just has layered fear manipulation. Post-Rose Meruem has Type 3 Madness Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Hallucination Inducement, on top of even better Fear Manipulation.
Arkenis
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That is on page, you can just label it as layered if you want. Also on the nen page.
This was removed, it's just aging. I forgot why but there's a crt.
Machmatej
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Age Manipulation and limited Death Manipulation, then. Heat Resistance (Pre-Rose) and at least Mid Regeneration (Post-Rose) should also be there. I think a "possible" section could also be added that includes High-Mid Regen, Duplication and Size Manipulation for all of Pouf's and Youpi's abilities that he didn't show.
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Dude is too angry to explain in a few words.
Arkenis
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I'm not angry, the pages say what nen crush does. Asking me what it does will just be me linking whats on page.
That's not death manip then.
When did he do mid regen post rose?
I guess you could put that? Wouldn't hurt as a possible section
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Eh, kinda? Ren basically makes you too scared, making your body stress to such point which you start to get old asf. But it's not LITERAL age manipulatiom, that's why it's "limited". If you resist the fear part, you can resist the age part too
Machmatej
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Limited Death Manipulation is still on profiles.
Low-Mid, I guess. When he regenerated his arms. legs, and his burned flesh right after the nuke.
Arkenis
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Yes, many profiles have the wrong hax labeled and could be reworked, doesn't mean we should mislabel too.
Low-Mids already profile. Did he regen without eating or something? I don't remember that specific scene
Machmatej
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Death Manipulation is still on the Nen profile for Ren, and Pouf's limited Death Manipulation (which Meruem should have) seems untouched.
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Arkenis
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I forget the context but it says bodily failure, that's not what death hax is.
Machmatej
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It's linked in the Ren section.
Ren (練レン, Ren; "Refine"/"Enhance") focuses on outputting a larger amount of aura than Ten and projecting it outwards violently. The user emanates a large amount of aura which enhances all of their physical capabilities such as strength and durability. By projecting malice into Ren, also called "bloodlust" by Nen Users. A prolonged experience of this can cause paralysis, intense fear, in some cases madness and without a Ten as a defence, death. It's used to intimidate other Nen Users allowing them to see the difference in power. Without malice, the pressure of Ren cannot be felt by non-users and only by extremely attentive living beings with high potential in regards to Nen.
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But it's stomp, no?
Arkenis
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No I don't see how.
Machmatej
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Pre-Rose works. Post Rose is a stomp.
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Bro, it's literally removed from the P&A, stop to use mental gymnsatic and nitpick
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Meruem vs Kaneki?
Machmatej
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I'm not using mental gymnastics, I'm just reading what's on the page. The whole verse is in dire need of a rework.
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I reworked this match and now it's not a stomp
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-Kaneki vs Chisaki- [14-8-0] - GRACE
Speed is Equalized; Kaneki (Post-Rose) - 91 Kilotons of TNT and Class G; Overhaul (Nemoto Fusion) - 711 Tons of TNT physically, 2.15 Megatons of TNT with Spikes and Class K; Starting distance: 20 meters. Place: Tokyo. Kaneki: @DarthSorox, @Arsuzz, @Foriaa, @Mikazzzuchi, @MintyBoi1...
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According to @Machmatej, overhaul’s Decon spreads.
Also having partial resistance doesn’t help. Shigaraki’s profile has full resistance to decon but would still get cooked by Overhaul’s quirk.
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