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He is pretty strong within the verse. Theresia was stronger than every other sword saint except Reid Astrea.
Sword saints were literally unbeatable, strongest of the kingdom. Wilhelm is the first ever to defeat one.
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Re Zero Discussion Thread: Season 4 is Real
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Sword saints were literally unbeatable, strongest of the kingdom. Wilhelm is the first ever to defeat one.
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It's just when you say "pretty strong," I think of a top-tier character and sword saints, ain't that except for Reinahrd and Reid.
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All that remains are cheaters, with the exception of those who rival Reinhard like Cecilus and Halibel.
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Btw, I'm pretty sure this isn't his prime at all. It was even before he realized that she was the sword saint.
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Are we all talking about the same guy? Wilhelm? THE Wilhelm? The guy many would argue is stronger than most witches?
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We kind of compile his whole time from Ex2, Ex3, Ex6, and Arc 9 into "prime". But I'd take no issue with changing "prime" to "youth".
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I was just wondering since Reinhard can defeat Od Lagna, which is a concept, shouldn’t his non-physical interaction type include "concept" ?
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His sword already has cm so he can
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This looks more like law manipulation than CM but in any case as I said previously shouldn't this be added to its non-physical interaction?
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When was it stated that Reinhard can beat Od Lagna btw, Q&A or main story?
Cuz Tappei has this weird habit of riding Rein's meat in Q&A but not doing it as hard in main story. Most his Q&A seems very on the spot and not very reliable.
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There is huge gap between him and actual top tiers so yes.
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Q&A
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He never said Reinhard can fight the sun, that's just the same Q&A were he said Reinhard would defeat Od Lagna, which he likens to the sun in its nature of holding no animosity.
He also didn't say he can fight Godzilla, he said that Reinhard is the Godzilla of the Re:Zero world in how he can't be defeated, referring to comparisons like Petelgeuse vs Reinhard as the same as Kakashi vs Godzilla.
But the main reason we don't use the Od Lagna Q&A is that the main story claims Od Lagna is a concentration of power separate even from the pinnacles of power like Reinhard, Satella, or Volcanica.
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I'm pretty sure that in arc 4 it's implied that Satella is at least as powerful as Od Lagna. Nothing to do with it, but there's no discussion about Satella's world?
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Btw, Satella's profile needs resistance to Existence Erasure and Conceptual Manipulation.
While she can get hurt, The Dragon Sword Reid can't destroy her body. Reid Astrea can't do it as well.
While she can get hurt, The Dragon Sword Reid can't destroy her body. Reid Astrea can't do it as well.
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I'm a "Sword God=Reid" believer so yeah, I think he could.
It did in the WN, but as Return by Death is an Authority and new lore states Od Lagna permits Authorities to break its rules, there's no need for her to be as strong.
And we don't really know about the nature of the Castle of Shadows, so we don't discuss it much.
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It happened in WN. It was Subaru's "it might be the case" thought.
After Roswaal said what Od Lagna does to the people who breaks it's laws, Subaru thought either he's also under that risk or the one who lets him do it, Satella, might be stronger than Od Lagna.
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I mean, he stated that Reinhard would win if they were to fight with sticks. Also said that Reid is a very hard challenge for Reinhard as he can't use the Dragon Sword against him, showing he's very comparable. Also the fact that arc 6 would actually be much more difficult if Reinhard was there because of Reid.
He also said Reid can actually win depending on the situation. It probably refers to divine protections. I do believe Reid wins against a Reinhard with no divine protection.
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Just confirmation that Reid would be the strongest if Reinhard wasn't a bug-character.
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Oh, i thought you were trying to show me the opposite which indidn't understand how since this just supports me :d
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we dont know if she can get hurt or not, anyways there is a note in her profile at the bottom that covers this.
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Garfiel can grow plants with his divine protection!? Huge.
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She can get hurt. She can't get destroyed.
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Isekai quartet?
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anything below sub rel technically isnt a threat to yae so it would need to be relative to that atleast
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He's talking about in regards to calc rules and throwing "a mace flail"
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Superhuman speed at max.
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Calc Stacking.
Yeah I couldn't find any recorded speed for such flails/morningstars bc they're soooo unrealistic.
I could.
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Realistically longer arcs are faster so since it's longer than a whip, even if we lowball it should be sub-sonic?
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Realistically it should be not moving at all because a human cannot swing that thing around even a little bit without dislocating their shoulders, elbows, and wrists. Obviously that is not the case here so superhuman is the conservative estimate. Though I can't shake the feeling that there has gotta be some direct statement about its speed somewhere.
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I remember something about it cleaving sound or something something supersonic but I am not sure
Yeah obviously Rem is stro-
I am not gonna compliment her.
Yeah that hardass can move the Morningstar
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I don't think that would be a compriment, you just stating a fact
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