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Tom and Jerry - General Discussion

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Tom and Jerry​


Welcome to an eternal chase between a cat and a mouse.
Explosions, chaos, and endless laughter. Tom and Jerry, created by William Hanna and Joseph Barbera in 1940, is one of the most iconic animated series in history.
 
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Mainly about the games to see if it is canon and applied, I saw a game where Tom goes to real hell and defeats the boss who is the devil that rules hell there which can give Tom Immortality type 5, it is based on an episode where Tom dies and goes to heaven but it was all a dream so I'm not sure if this game can be counted as canon or not
 
Greatsage13th said:
There's that one game MIC with a bunch of lore
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You mean Tom and Jerry Chase? If so I know but most of the plot is on the wiki and can't be found anywhere else so I'm not sure if I can use it, but overall the plot will probably be consistent with the original as Journey Through Painting explains why they are in this world
 
In the 2021 Tom and Jerry movie, it is also implied that Tom and Jerry are actors in the credits, their "real" names here are quite strange.
 
I'm not sure why Tom being able to walk in the air isn't Physic Manipulation but ActuallySpaceMan says it's just Toon Force, I mean Looney Tunes characters and even Mickey get Physic Manipulation from this
 
Greatsage13th said:
Wow, that quick?
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Yes here is my draft, you can review and contribute if you want.

Remove Tom's shapeshifting because even though it says it's through the ring of power I watched it and only saw Tom with stronger stretching abilities and his whole body made of ice with the ability to freeze but no shapeshifting

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Text Manipulation: Can create and interact with physical exclamation marks

Damage Transferal: There is a painting that is enchanted by a ghost, when Tom takes any damage it will be transferred to the painting


Flight: Can fly by himself ()

Statistics Amplification & Statistics Reduction with Ultra Zapper (Speed; Tom used this gun () which can increase or decrease speed ()

Afterimage Creation: Shown here (https://imgur.com/a/tom-runs-so-fast-he-appears-multiple-places-once-oM7cYeK)

Time Travel: They create chemicals to explode and go back in time to prehistoric times, not sure if that adds to the durability of the two (https://youtu.be/1vln49KVgjk?feature=shared&t=2m06s)

Shadow Manipulation (Shadow Boxin's): With the sword of light and darkness, it can split the shadow into two different people.
https://youtu.be/jmDdKLTtGG8?si=D46KtVuSHEqpWmn7

Fusionism: Shown here (https://youtu.be/oDVLOgnDs9g?feature=shared&t=1m57s)

Telepathy: Can see Butch's thoughts (https://youtu.be/tDtbgeoPKcM?feature=shared&t=3m31s)

Smoke Manipulation: Make the smoke say "Howdy"
https://youtu.be/gjcRtKFwFDE?feature=shared&t=28s

Absorption Electricity & Electricity Manipulation, Energy Projection (old):
Tom can absorb and release electricity (https://youtu.be/30bOOf6XGV8?feature=shared) he can even kamekameha (https://youtu.be/30bOOf6XGV8?feature=shared&t=1m30s)

Magic Lamp: Lamp itself can transform to whatever their owner want: Maybe Transformation and Power Mimicry https://youtu.be/vMLvX2BPn4w?feature=shared&t=1m33s
Dimension Storage: inside the lamp is a whole other space, Tom can use it to let Jerry in, I think it's also a form of Sealing
(https://youtu.be/vMLvX2BPn4w?feature=shared&t=2m10s)
• Genie:

More hax for Magic Wand 2014: Earth Manipulation (https://imgur.com/a/wand-can-errupt-earth-create-living-fire-w7gseBY), Paralysis Inducement & Teleportation (https://imgur.com/a/wand-paralyzing-bfr-lBLV9Xn)

Maybe Dimensional Manipulation: They bring game characters to the real world, even if only by accident. https://imgur.com/a/enemies-come-to-live-slZOevi

Ogre’s Tooth: Enhanced Telekinesis - Tom's telekinesis was so powerful that it left the two witches unable to move.

Magic Ring: Life Manipulation,
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Resistance to

Ice Manipulation: Although the cold air from the refrigerator froze everything, even though Tom was outside, he was not frozen along with the objects. https://youtu.be/gN-XFmuN1xY?feature=shared&t=1m56s
And also break out from his ice when wear Ring of Powers:
https://youtu.be/6Jp-Ug6qB2I?feature=shared&t=1m53s

Cosmic Radiation: He's fine in space.
https://youtu.be/mm2Aevam-bg?feature=shared&t=2m48s

Extreme Hot: Although he was clearly in pain from the lava, his leg was not damaged.
https://youtu.be/et_F48Z8RDk?feature=shared&t=2m10s

Limited-Electricity Manipulation: Tom is not affected by electricity (https://youtu.be/30bOOf6XGV8?feature=shared) unless the amount of electricity is huge (https://youtu.be/30bOOf6XGV8?feature=shared&t=1m30s)

Acid Manipulation & Poison Manipulation: Tom drank milk mixed with all kinds of poison that made spoon disintegrate but he was fine.
(https://youtu.be/zqpNT-OfD7E?feature=shared&t=6m21s)
It can also be seen that Jerry used the same formula that Tom used to create milk and made the fly drink it and die.
(https://youtu.be/zqpNT-OfD7E?feature=shared&t=3m01s)
And I think they should also have Power Modification for both because obviously the poison can kill creatures but when they drink it they get powers or size manipulation. And give him Acid Manipulation for the obvious reasons above

New for Probability Manipulation:

Possibly Corruption type 1: When Tom was mind controlled by the vampire master, he was turned into a vampire(https://youtu.be/Vknt5KK3ggM?feature=shared&t=56s) After the vampire died, he was no longer mind controlled, but his vampire form remained. Then he took off all his teeth, hair, and clothes, so Tom was transformed, but he could have removed the transformation, but because he was mind controlled, he couldn't do it. (https://youtu.be/R9cxBLdQz-g?feature=shared&t=4m01s)
 
I changed Tom's tier to High4C in constellation form with only 1 staff agreeing, not sure if this is against the rules
 
Putting aside the cosmology and gaming issues, the more important issue is the problem of Tom and Jerry's outliers, how can we solve it? Or by assuming that their powers all come from the mind like the Captain Potato drink explanation?
 
For each sudden high level of power, we can tie it to a particular source or specific ability to keep things explainable.
 
Greatsage13th said:
For each sudden high level of power, we can tie it to a particular source or specific ability to keep things explainable.
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However, Tom and Jerry don't have an explanation that every time the power is that high, Tom and Jerry have another power for that, I think their solution with Subjective Reality is still quite good or the other explanation is that they never used their full power, the only evidence to support this is the video where Tom was drunk and he lifted the sun with Reality Warping
 
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Thanganimator said:
However, Tom and Jerry don't have an explanation that every time the power is that high, Tom and Jerry have another power for that, I think their solution with Subjective Reality is still quite good or the other explanation is that they never used their full power, the only evidence to support this is the video where Tom was drunk and he lifted the sun with Reality Warping
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Yeah, it could mostly be from subjective reality.
 
Ok after looking up some more of tom's speeds i found that tom's sun lifting speed is too big and many people will disagree to it even though it's explained as reality warping so this would probably be a good speed travel to start calculating tom's speed and i don't know how to calculate it
 
I just reread Tom and Jerry Chase's Next World Adventure and I found the Tree Of Life to be quite similar to a Hypertimeline. Each leaf is a different space-time and after 4 cycles falls off like the past, present and future in the same time (the breathing of the tree). In addition, the tree also provides energy for the entire universe below to operate and connect with each other. If it is damaged, the universes below will lose connection. So yeah, they maybe Low1c in Tom and Jerry Chase
 
I was wondering if all the movies produced by MGM like Tom and Jerry, Droopy, etc would have the same universe and we could scale back and forth with each other, currently only the Tom and Jerry Comedy Show has almost all the MGM characters
 
Guy! I founded videos about that event story of Tom and Jerry Chase, which mean we can make a scaling about this game now
 
Can this be considered against Tom's transmutation? When he was turned into a tin can his eyes were still closed on the outside and then when the dragon opened them he came out from inside.
 
Talking about the game Tom and Jerry in Infurnal Escape, can it be considered canon with the cartoon? I mean its intro and plot are based on the movie Heavenly Puss but it has been changed a lot, with the opening Tom is already in hell after the piano land on him and has a white cat who is an angel to help him revive but has to defeat Spike, collect souls, etc. However if it is recognized as canon then Tom will have Immortality type 4,5 and limited 8
 
Thanganimator said:
Talking about the game Tom and Jerry in Infurnal Escape, can it be considered canon with the cartoon? I mean its intro and plot are based on the movie Heavenly Puss but it has been changed a lot, with the opening Tom is already in hell after the piano land on him and has a white cat who is an angel to help him revive but has to defeat Spike, collect souls, etc. However if it is recognized as canon then Tom will have Immortality type 4,5 and limited 8
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I don't know.
 
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