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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

If the anime contradicts the manga, it will not take precedence regardless of Horikoshi's involvement.

For example, it's completely impossible for Nagant to be anywhere near the location of the battle between Bakugo and All For One.
 
If Nagant was at central hospital, why is the sea on the right when she’s firing at UA? Wouodnt it on the left if she’s facing Hamamatsu?

Where in the world is Lady Nagant?
 
The Nagant thing is what I have warned in the past about fans being hasty in treating the final season as canon with the hopes that an animator would contextualize or recontextualize a manga feat into something quantifiably impressive, when we very well might get something to the contrary.
I also remember saying something similar at the time when everyone was more excited about the idea.
This is ""bad"" news actually, now the anime could surprise us with more mentions similar to those of Mach 10. /s
 
The Nagant thing is what I have warned in the past about fans being hasty in treating the final season as canon with the hopes that an animator would contextualize or recontextualize a manga feat into something quantifiably impressive, when we very well might get something to the contrary.
The Nagant feat isn’t that relevant to the current ratings. And if the anime is accepted as canon, we have more Relativistic to FTL feats for them to scale to now (All Might dodging Radio Waves, then AFO blitzing him).
 
Trailers mostly show ep1 and ep2 stuff with some cuts of further epsiodes sometimes.

This can be both good and bad. From MHA's trailer I understood that the quality will be good since we saw parts of Shigaraki vs Deku months before the anime even started airing.

On the other hand OPM's trailer being 90% ep1 filled me with dred. And boy did it live upto that dred.
 
IIRC according to the map Hori drew of the Final War location, Central Hospital was near a body of water south of Japan, a bay along a small peninsula. That might be the body of water we're seeing.
This is probably taken into account in the calculation as well.
It's supposed to be to her left, not the right. Central Hospital is shown and stated to be in Tokyo, while we see the Coffin in the Sky in Hamamatsu.

So either Horikoshi forgot what direction the ocean/coastline should be, which is understandable.

Or he wants us to believe Lady Nagant went from Central Hospital, traveled over 200 km, went past the Coffin in the Sky, and turned around to shoot at Shigaraki.

I think I know what I believe. That Lady Nagant gained the ability to warp time and space so she could flip the direction of the world because it gave her a better shot.
 
The panel also shows the buildings ahead of Lady Nagant just silently fusing with the mountains on her left and the sea ahead. Hori's geography is probably bad but also it's Hori's choice of conveying placements of characters.

It's similar to AFO gazing on Deku vs Tomura after defeating Armored All Might, the buildings also blend into the horizon.
 
That is both a impossible calc and a useless one. First you have to calc which building Bakugo landed on. Then how far AFO travels and then find the shortest path from the Bakugo to AFO.

There are two problems here. We don't know AFO's flight speed and the most impressive part of the feat is that he covered the distance before AFO could react. But since we have no official number on AFO's reaction time, using anything more than Superhuman would be calc stacking.
 
First page of Chapter 379.

Lady Nagant was still in Central Hospital after Kurogiri was activated. Note: The doctor states Nagant walking could rip open her wounds. She can barely walk.

Kurogiri was activated by Chapter 374 and was shown at the Coffin in the Sky in that same chapter.

Chapter 377 picks up right where that scene leaves off. It even uses the same art from Chapter 374 to show when Kurogiri arrived.

Shigaraki gains his Quirks back mere seconds after Kurogiri arrives and he destroys the barrier around the Coffin in the Sky. Lady Nagant is still at the hospital at this point, that's fact. The timeframe is for her to get to a building's roof is Chapter 377 to the end of Chapter 378, as the latter is when Lady Nagant shoots Tomura.

That feat isn't as impressive as you'd think.

For example: Let's say AFO was 200 meters away from Bakugo when the latter started to move. Let's also say AFO has a speed of 200 m/s. I'm pulling a random speed out because it doesn't matter which speed you use, the percentile will be the same.

Using that timeframe, Bakugo takes 1.5 seconds or 36 frames to reach AFO's position. AFO, with a speed of 200 m/s, would've traveled an extra 300 meters in that timeframe.

200+300 = 500 meters would be the distance Bakugo would have to move.

500/1.5 = 333.33 m/s would be Bakugo's speed. Which isn't even 2x faster than what AFO is moving.

Increasing the distance would make the difference in speed greater, but the results aren't going to be good from what I've checked.

AFO wasn't looking at Bakugo, so you cannot say he covered that distance before AFO could react. AFO only noticed Bakugo when he came into his field of view. AFO's eyes turn to look at Bakugo right after he shows up. We cannot say if Bakugo could've blitzed him or not.

That's the reason why we cannot use a reaction timeframe. AFO would've had to be staring at Bakugo's position and be unable to react for that to count. The same was true in the manga, which is why it wasn't calculated. AFO turns around and only notices Bakugo when he puts his hand on his face, at least that's what we see.

It's also not that hard to find where Bakugo is. AFO and Bakugo are flying in the sky, so they're moving in a straight line. You can also calculate AFO's speed in this moment and it won't be calc stacking because it's all the same moment. Due to cinematic timing and the flashbacks, it's impossible to say how far AFO travels, so the distance would be low balled. However, the results weren't very good.
 
First page of Chapter 379.

Lady Nagant was still in Central Hospital after Kurogiri was activated. Note: The doctor states Nagant walking could rip open her wounds. She can barely walk.

Kurogiri was activated by Chapter 374 and was shown at the Coffin in the Sky in that same chapter.

Chapter 377 picks up right where that scene leaves off. It even uses the same art from Chapter 374 to show when Kurogiri arrived.

Shigaraki gains his Quirks back mere seconds after Kurogiri arrives and he destroys the barrier around the Coffin in the Sky. Lady Nagant is still at the hospital at this point, that's fact. The timeframe is for her to get to a building's roof is Chapter 377 to the end of Chapter 378, as the latter is when Lady Nagant shoots Tomura.


That feat isn't as impressive as you'd think.

For example: Let's say AFO was 200 meters away from Bakugo when the latter started to move. Let's also say AFO has a speed of 200 m/s. I'm pulling a random speed out because it doesn't matter which speed you use, the percentile will be the same.

Using that timeframe, Bakugo takes 1.5 seconds or 36 frames to reach AFO's position. AFO, with a speed of 200 m/s, would've traveled an extra 300 meters in that timeframe.

200+300 = 500 meters would be the distance Bakugo would have to move.

500/1.5 = 333.33 m/s would be Bakugo's speed. Which isn't even 2x faster than what AFO is moving.

Increasing the distance would make the difference in speed greater, but the results aren't going to be good from what I've checked.


AFO wasn't looking at Bakugo, so you cannot say he covered that distance before AFO could react. AFO only noticed Bakugo when he came into his field of view. AFO's eyes turn to look at Bakugo right after he shows up. We cannot say if Bakugo could've blitzed him or not.

That's the reason why we cannot use a reaction timeframe. AFO would've had to be staring at Bakugo's position and be unable to react for that to count. The same was true in the manga, which is why it wasn't calculated. AFO turns around and only notices Bakugo when he puts his hand on his face, at least that's what we see.

It's also not that hard to find where Bakugo is. AFO and Bakugo are flying in the sky, so they're moving in a straight line. You can also calculate AFO's speed in this moment and it won't be calc stacking because it's all the same moment. Due to cinematic timing and the flashbacks, it's impossible to say how far AFO travels, so the distance would be low balled. However, the results weren't very good.
I mean it IS important to have that travel speed noted anyways though if we don't have anything better already because that distinction does need to be made but otherwise it should be higher than just transonic for sure
 
So the writer for MHA live action confirmed that Horikoshi is heavily involved in the production and is giving supervison on the script.

I think the MHA panel next year is going to be the live action project
 
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This site really peaked with Shigaraki beating a planetary genshin character
Skirk got buffed Star level so Shigaraki did beat 2 Star level characters. Cool

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I mean it IS important to have that travel speed noted anyways though if we don't have anything better already because that distinction does need to be made but otherwise it should be higher than just transonic for sure
I assure you, there is something WAY better for Bakugo and it's his own feat.
 
 
10-1 for Shigaraki. This was a funny ass matchup
 
Looks like next episode is gonna be peak as well from all the previews I have seen. Apparently, there's even added scenes.

All we can hope is that Deku vs Shiggy gets the same treatment.
I still have PTSD from PLFW adaptation and MVA. I wish these 2 arcs were reanimated somehow. PLFW could even make a great movie that does actual justice to the fights at Jakku and Gunga outside Mirko's (hers was done excellently) and Mirio (somehow he got a great animated cut while Deku vs Shiggy was shortchanged).
 
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