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Welcome to the very first CRT of Genshin Impact related to Nod-Krai. Today, i'll upgrade the rating of the God-Tier in Genshin Impact and some additions for some Characters. Let's do it.

Introduction New Character


In Genshin Impact, there was a primordial creator and ruler of the Old World or the old version of Teyvat. His name was Dragon King Nibelung, he was the original ruler and logically the very first Throne of the Heavens before the Primordial One or the Heavenly Principles usurped everything including his Throne. Dragon King Nibelung is the King and Lord of all Dragons including the Seven Dragon Sovereigns like Neuvillette, Apep and Xiuhcoatl.

In the very ancient time of Teyvat, Teyvat are not only had one moon but Three Moons. The Three Moons of Teyvat were created by Dragon King Nibelung, each moons were ruled by Three Moon Sisters or Goddesses which also created by Dragon King Nibelung.

New Rating


As we know before, Dragon King Nibelung was the creator of the Three Moons of Teyvat. But apparently, he did not just created the Three Moons but also the Sun. It is stated in the Staff of the Scarlet Sands that The Sun and the Moons were created at the same time.

First, the sun and the moons were created, and thus day and night came to be. She once described the night sky adorned with three bright moons to me in a language I have now forgotten — yes, the number of moons should be three.
May the shadows of the world cast their pearly shimmer upon the earth when they awake, such that people can follow the silver-plated outline of the dunes at night to find their final fate.

Next, weight was created. Thus sand sank, forming the earth. And that which was without weight became the sky. I stipulated that one should rely on the earth, but dream of the sky.
The weight should not be excessive, or the land will bind people's feet, impede those longing to travel far, and hinder expansion through exploration, while causing people to be unable to fly high, unable to explore the future. – Staff of the Scarlet Sands Descriptions.

So by this Sun Creation feat alone, it should be rating as standard Star level 4-C (136.066 Quettatons.) Theres Kuuvahki Energy in Genshin Impact coming from the Light of the Three Moons of Teyvat, We know that the Moonlight is actually coming from the Sunlight, so, it's kinda make sense that Dragon King Nibelung also created the Sun too so the Moon he created also have Light.

In Genshin Impact Verse, Dragon King Nibelung is one of the God-Tier in the verse, like Top 2 Strongest character of all time below the Heavenly Principles or the Primordial One. Why? Because in the Great War of Vengance or the Funerary Year, Dragon King Nibelung and the remaining dragons fought against the Heavenly Principles. In that War, Dragon King Nibelung was killed by the Heavenly Principles but at a great cost. He manage to wounded the Heavenly Principles so bad to the point that the Heavenly Principles could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of the world.

So with that, The Dragon King Nibelung should be comparable to the Heavenly Principles and both of them should be the Top 2 Strongest characters in the game.

Scaling


Characters that would scales to this rating is the Top 5 God-Tier in the verse and anyone who's comparable to them.
  1. The Heavenly Principles
  2. Dragon King Nibelung
  3. The Four Shining Shades
  4. The Five Sinners of Khaenri'ah
  5. The Seven Dragon Sovereigns
Seven Dragon Sovereigns reason: In the year of "When the Doves Held Branches" In Before Sun and Moon, The Heavenly Principles or the Primordial One came to Teyvat for the first time and fought against the Seven Dragon Sovereigns, this war was called "The Sky-War" By Kukulkan. During their fight, the Heavenly Principles created the Four Shining Shades of itself. So, the Fight was between The Primordial One + The Four Shades vs The Seven Dragon Sovereigns. 40 years after the Heavenly Principles appears — The Heavenly Principles and their Shades emerge victorious over the Seven Sovereigns. So, The Seven Dragon Sovereigns manage to make the Heavenly Principles and the Four Shades struggle for 40 Years because it takes 40 years for them to defeat these Seven Sovereigns.

Because of the same reason, All Four Shades, Seven Sovereigns and Heavenly Principles should have at least Superhuman stamina via fighting for 40 years long.

"When the Doves Held Branches"
When the eternal throne of the heavens came, the world was made anew. Then the true lord, the Primordial One, came forth and did battle against the seven terrifying sovereigns, dragon-lords of the old world. The Primordial One created shining shades of itself, and the number of these shades was four.

"On Phanes, or The Primordial One"
The Primordial One may have been Phanes. It had wings and a crown, and was birthed from an egg, androgynous in nature. But for the world to be created, the egg's shell had to be broken. However, Phanes, the Primordial One, used the eggshell to separate the "universe" and the "microcosm of the world."

"Forty Years After the Held Branches"
Forty winters entombed the flames, and forty summers churned the seas. The Seven Sovereigns were vanquished, and the seven nations submitted to the heavens. The Primordial One, the great sovereign, began the creation of heaven and earth for "our" sake — that of its creations which it cherished most, who would soon appear upon this earth. –The Byakuyakoku Collection Vol.2, Before Sun and Moon.

And this war is also equivalent to the Great War of Vengeance led by Dragon King Nibelung against the Heavenly Principles and presumably the Four Shades too. According to this, the Seven Sovereigns should scale to the Four Shades and Heavenly Principles.

The War of Vengeance is happening in the Funerary Year, or around more than 400 years after the war between The Heavenly Principles x The Four Shades vs The Seven Sovereigns

For the Five Sinners part, thanks to Rhinedottir who's one of the five sinners merged herself with the Ruler of Life Naberius and become one of the Four Shades now so the Sinners can be scaled to the Four Shades.

Mavuika should also scale to this 4-C with her Ronova Amp Key and Venti should get "Possibly 4-C with Authority of Time" because The Ruler of Time Istaroth once bestowed a fragments of her Power and Authority to Venti. So far, Venti only performed a hax feat with Istaroth's power which is a Temporal BFR.

New Abilities


This section will be for those who will get a bunch of new Abilities.

The Ruler of Time Istaroth
Istaroth was mentioned before, now speaking of her, I want to give something new for her. I want to give her "Nigh-Omniscience". Yes, the very first Nigh-Omniscience in Genshin Impact.

So, the Ruler of Time Istaroth is already Omnipresence, Temporal Omnipresence to be exact, because she's THE MOMENT ITSELF AND EVERY MOMENT in Time, thus she can also be called "The God of Moments". According to Venti, Istaroth began to write the story of the world. To her, all living beings were equal, both in their value and insignificance. Like an ancient scroll, she engraved upon her memory all people, all events, all encounters, and all farewells. So basically, Istaroth knows ANY AND ALL THINGS in the World because she's the writer of the story of Genshin (Teyvat) itself. Her Temporal Omnipresence can also be the reason of why she's Nigh-Omniscience (which is kinda funny) because she's the moment and knows everything in every moment, be it in the past, present and future.

So with all that said, Istaroth should get Nigh-Omniscient because she's basically every moment in time and the Moment itself, thus she knows every moments in the world because she wrote and remember and destroy all of them.

Additional: Istaroth alongside the other Shades as a higher beings should immensely far superior to all of the allogenes in the human realm who can resist the prolonged exposure to the Smaragdus Jadeite, which contains highly concentrated elemental energy. Therefore, all Shades would get Resistance to Elemental Energy.

The Pyro Dragon Sovereign created a realm within the Sacred Mountain of Tollan, that realm was The Sacred City of Tollan, the city of the Dragons. He created this realm with just a single flap of his wings. Xiuhcoatl should get Pocket Reality Manipulation with this one.

Venti should get Low MultiversalInterdimensional Range from his BFR because he can blew the Mare Jivari off the Timeline with the power of Time. (Temporal BFR).

God-Tier = 4-C / Star level + Superhuman stamina.

Istaroth = Nigh-Omniscient

Four Shades
= Elemental Energy resistance.

Venti = Low MultiversalInterdimensional range

Xiuhcoatl = Pocket Reality Manipulation

—————— V O T E S ——————

Agree (Staffs):
@Qawsedf234, @Godernet

Agree (Members):

@PedjaTarzan, @AyOgUyS, @Puppet43, @FentyBeauty, @Furina003


Disagree:
@PedjaTarzan (Possibly 4-C Venti), @Puppet43 (4-C Venti and Mavuika)


New Profiles
I've already prepared new Profiles here which is Dragon King Nibelung himself and one of the Five Sinners of Khaenri'ah "The Foul" Surtalogi. I'm ready publish them after this CRT is Done.

 
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disagree on venti part bcs its specifically just hax from istaroth as venti explained that he got her authority of time to be able to time bfr mare jivari away.
Also surtalogi has an on screen feat on his own hidden in skirk trailer which shows star/planet completely shattered so you can use it as a scaling
 
disagree on venti part bcs its specifically just hax from istaroth as venti explained that he got her authority of time to be able to time bfr mare jivari away.
Also surtalogi has an on screen feat on his own hidden in skirk trailer which shows star/planet completely shattered so you can use it as a scaling
I agree with you.
 
Also surtalogi has an on screen feat on his own hidden in skirk trailer which shows star/planet completely shattered so you can use it as a scaling
Well.. Since my math is dogshit i'll leave that to somebody who can calculate it like Puppet.

Anyway, i assume you agree with the rest.
 
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So.. Because he can bfr someone/something to another Timeline, his range should be like Low Multiversal then?
Logically speaking yeah, BFR feats are range feats to begin with. So, assuming his BFR is actually another timeline like you say then putting something like "Low Multiversal" (with BFR) makes sense.
 
Same as Woomy ig but i disagree on Mavuika's part too (Like i disagree in both Venti and Mavuika scaling to 4C)
 
i think bc they’ve only been granted a part of their power n like not all of it so mavuika n venti with a piece of their power wouldn’t be as strong as ronova n istartoth at their best
 
Why? Mavuika's Ronova Amp key should also get that because its 4-C source of power.
I kinda see her more consisntent just being x3 times her base, i think i already explained the base to u but bassicly
  • Xbalanque Prime = Corrupted Xiuhcoatl
  • Gosoythoth copied Corrupted Xiuhcoatl
  • Mavuika fought and equal a 1/3 Xbalanque
  • Therefore the Ronova amp should had be just a x3 for her to equal Gosoythoth
Edit: Also what Fenty said
 
everything looks cute tho

but when ur creating the pages can u make sure to make the picture at like the front of the page bigger and not small like the ones u have in ur surtalogi and nibelung blogs
 
I kinda see her more consisntent just being x3 times her base, i think i already explained the base to u but bassicly
  • Xbalanque Prime = Corrupted Xiuhcoatl
  • Gosoythoth copied Corrupted Xiuhcoatl
  • Mavuika fought and equal a 1/3 Xbalanque
  • Therefore the Ronova amp should had be just a x3 for her to equal Gosoythoth
Edit: Also what Fenty said
this would be consistent if power she obtained to even beat gosoy isnt said to liteally surpass all archons combined, and that should include xbalanque since hes archon too, unless u believe hes some sort of outlier amongs them then idk go for it **** it
 
this would be consistent if power she obtained to even beat gosoy isnt said to liteally surpass all archons combined, and that should include xbalanque since hes archon too, unless u believe hes some sort of outlier amongs them then idk go for it **** it
Well since the one who surpassed all the archons is the one with that Ronova's power, Xbalanque also once surpassed all archons in his era.
 
Well since the one who surpassed all the archons is the one with that Ronova's power, Xbalanque also once surpassed all archons in his era.
but he didnt have it 24/7 did he? he used it to shape the rules in natlan and fight off the abyss no? so the xbalanque mavuika fought would still be 1/3 of his full archon power (though he also mentioned that the realm allowed them to fight with no limitations i think he WAS usijg the remaining 2/3 of his powers)
 
but he didnt have it 24/7 did he? he used it to shape the rules in natlan and fight off the abyss no?
Yeah but it doesn't mean he can't use it for a fight. After all, Lord of the Night already said that Mavuika will borrow the power that "Xbalanque Obtained" from Ronova.

So this power can be use for fight or something else.
so the xbalanque mavuika fought would still be 1/3 of his full archon power (though he also mentioned that the realm allowed them to fight with no limitations i think he WAS usijg the remaining 2/3 of his powers)
So, he only got 1/3 when he returned, he went to that realm so he can use the full power of that 1/3 power he got because he can't do it outside of that realm because it would hurt that body he possessed.
 
this would be consistent if power she obtained to even beat gosoy isnt said to liteally surpass all archons combined
ig she is talking about present, because she would still upscale x3 the other archons and Venti, he is just him
  • No one knew about his powers
  • He is currently 8C because no gnosis
  • He scales above Current Traveler
 
Yeah but it doesn't mean he can't use it for a fight. After all, Lord of the Night already said that Mavuika will borrow the power that "Xbalanque Obtained" from Ronova.

So this power can be use for fight or something else.
thing is Mavuika needs rituals and shit for that amp while Xbalanque got it directly from Ronova, and Mavuika rejected the rest of Xbalnques powers which include the usage of ronovas power so i doubt it for Mavu at least
So, he only got 1/3 when he returned, he went to that realm so he can use the full power of that 1/3 power he got because he can't do it outside of that realm because it would hurt that body he possessed.
yea pretty much
ig she is talking about present, because she would still upscale x3 the other archons and Venti, he is just him
  • No one knew about his powers
  • He is currently 8C because no gnosis
  • He scales above Current Traveler
Mf stop smoking crack current Venti isnt even archon level anymore why would i ever assume that key instead of his actual archon key vro
 
Because she didnt even witness his lvl
😭 as if witnessing his current lvl would change anything bro, we alr know her archon power didnt do shit to gosoy, she would obv resort to something far beyond when faced against entity that can mimic a sovereign and is said to be threat to the whole world by capitano
 
genshin profiles are so cooked bro i dont even know how that got rejected
Actually tragic, this is exactly why everyone should be downscaled to base hilichurl tier.
During their fight, the Heavenly Principles created the Four Shining Shades of itself. So, the Fight was between The Primordial One + The Four Shades vs The Seven Dragon Sovereigns. 40 years after the Heavenly Principles appears — The Heavenly Principles and their Shades emerge victorious over the Seven Sovereigns. So, The Seven Dragon Sovereigns manage to make the Heavenly Principles and the Four Shades struggle for 40 Years because it takes 40 years for them to defeat these Seven Sovereigns.
Question though, how exactly do the shades, five sinners and dragon sovereigns scale to the heavenly principles and dragon king if the heavenly principles split herself into the shades which would logically lower their overall level of power from when they fought the dragon king?
 
Question though, how exactly do the shades, five sinners and dragon sovereigns scale to the heavenly principles and dragon king if the heavenly principles split herself into the shades which would logically lower their overall level of power from when they fought the dragon king?
Its not like heavenly principles becomes 4 people but they created 4 shades of themselves. Like think of Bunshin no Jutsu of Naruto, so its not like split themself.

The Sinners can be scaled to the Shades because of Rhinedottir who's also one of the sinners but becoming one of the four shades.

The Sovereigns scales to the Heavenly Principles and Four Shades is obvious because they manage to fight the heavenly principles and four shades for 40 years, the same heavenly principles and four shades who fought Dragon King Nibelung.
 
So by this Sun Creation feat alone, it should be rating as standard Star level 4-C (136.066 Quettatons.) Theres Kuuvahki Energy in Genshin Impact coming from the Light of the Three Moons of Teyvat, We know that the Moonlight is actually coming from the Sunlight, so, it's kinda make sense that Dragon King Nibelung also created the Sun too so the Moon he created also have Light.
I was asked to comment. So with creation feats, you have to list a reason why they'd scale to AP
In order for a creation feat to be tiered and applied to a character's Attack Potency, several conditions need to be fulfilled.

The first obvious requirement is that it must be certain that an actual creation feat took place. If, for example, stars appear to have been created it must be certain that those aren't just minor light sources looking similar.

Furthermore, the object in question must be of physical nature. Energy beams and hard light are typically not considered quantifiable by this method.

In order to apply to a character's capacity to harm other characters, that is their usual Attack Potency, their Creation has to be connected to their other abilities. Often that is due to a common energy system, in which the same energy used for creation is used for attacks. For example, it can be reasoned that a mage which expends mana from its energy pool to make a city and then channels a similar or greater amount of mana into another attack can scale to its creation feat. However a character who can create objects without other ways of harming their opponents by using an equal amount of energy from their energy pool wouldn't be able to harness that power to hurt another character, and would fall under a light form of Environmental Destruction.

Lastly, the creation of the object(s) in question needs to happen within a reasonably short timeframe for the whole result to apply to the Attack Potency.
You have to show a UES (which afaik GE already has) and then show that the Dragon can use attacks requiring similar or greater energy to the creation to scale to that rating.

The rest of the proposed powers I don't have an issue with.
 
I was asked to comment. So with creation feats, you have to list a reason why they'd scale to AP. The first obvious requirement is that it must be certain that an actual creation feat took place. If, for example, stars appear to have been created it must be certain that those aren't just minor light sources looking similar.
Furthermore, the object in question must be of physical nature. Energy beams and hard light are typically not considered quantifiable by this method.
Well obviously it's not just a minor light sources looking similar thing.
Because he also created the real 3 moons as a satellite to the planet and then he created the Sun. The statement should be clear enough.
In the distant past, Teyvat had not just one moon, but three. It is said that they were created by the primordial master of this world, cast into the firmament to keep peace in the land below.
First, the sun and the moons were created, and thus day and night came to be.

You have to show a UES (which afaik GE already has) and then show that the Dragon can use attacks requiring similar or greater energy to the creation to scale to that rating.
About UES, in the second key of him he fought against his enemies with even stronger power than the one he created the sun which is the Abyss. The game has shown and stated Abyss is everywhere in the Universe and people in another planet also use the Abyssal power not just here in Teyvat.

He manage to severly wounded the Heavenly Principles who's stronger than him creating the sun and even with that Abyssal power.

It is not confirmed what power did Dragon King Nibelung used for creating the Sun, we can only assume he used one of the Primordial Energy of Teyvat because he was the king of the Light Realm, a realm of pure elemental energies and stated to be more fundamental than the current elemental energy.

One of his servant Xiuhcoatl was manage to create "an Astral Assamblages" with one of the primordial power named Phlogiston and it is stated to be comparable to Star Forging and Lunar Reconstruction.

For the Timeframe, i think it is pretty short enough because he created those moons and sun when he bout to leave the planet and then he left. We don't have any visuals about this because its a narrative of what happened in the past.

Operations stream along countless convolutions, flowing spectrum paths that shift across layered platforms.
The accumulated Phlogiston coalesces under immense pressure into a floating, controllable ball of heat.

"We've done it!" Your brethren cheer all around you.
Yet the one who masterminded this feat, in no way inferior to star-forging, stands outside the experimental site, as though wholly unrelated to this momentous deed.
Congratulations are in order, creating something equivalent to a celestial body in miniature.. An "Astral Assemblage," is it? Truly, a grand achievement, comparable with lunar reconstruction.
 
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Its not like heavenly principles becomes 4 people but they created 4 shades of themselves. Like think of Bunshin no Jutsu of Naruto, so its not like split themself.

The Sinners can be scaled to the Shades because of Rhinedottir who's also one of the sinners but becoming one of the four shades.
I mean yeah I understand this somewhat, but using your example of shadow clone jutsu from Naruto, war arc aside. Naruto's clones are consistently shown throughout most the series to be as about as durable as a hilichurl and they are always weaker than the original.
The Sovereigns scales to the Heavenly Principles and Four Shades is obvious because they manage to fight the heavenly principles and four shades for 40 years, the same heavenly principles and four shades who fought Dragon King Nibelung.
Yeah the sovereigns to shades scaling makes sense, I'm more so asking why the shades scale to the heavenly principles. Btw what tier does heavenly principles scale to anyways?
 
Yeah the sovereigns to shades scaling makes sense, I'm more so asking why the shades scale to the heavenly principles. Btw what tier does heavenly principles scale to anyways?
The Heavenly Principles/Celestial Order not have a profile on the wiki. However, given that it scales above its shadows, it is 5-B.
 
About UES, in the second key of him he fought against his enemies with even stronger power than the one he created the sun which is the Abyss
How do we know that though.

He manage to severly wounded the Heavenly Principles who's stronger than him creating the sun and even with that Abyssal power.
This seems like circular reasoning. What evidence is there that he used more energy fighting them than he did the Sun?
 
Btw what tier does heavenly principles scale to anyways?
The Heavenly Principles themself (they're androgynous) doesn't have any AP feat performed by their own, however since they're the strongest entity in Genshin all upscales from other characters would also upscale the heavenly principles.

As of right now, nobody is stronger than the Heavenly Principles.
 
How do we know that though.
This seems like circular reasoning. What evidence is there that he used more energy fighting them than he did the Sun?
Yes, it's this one. They once believed that this power is the ONLY power that they could defeat their enemy.

And Dragon King Nibelung, despite being lost, manage to severely wounded the heavenly principles with this power. The abyssal power basically can amped the user's strength.

So from this, we can conclude that the abyssal power that Dragon King Nibelung used is stronger than his original power because it's strong enough to severely wounded the strongest entity in the verse who's stronger than him which is the Heavenly Principles.

This guy right here, probably the strongest sinner out of five of them. He used the same Abyssal Energy and now he's basically destroying everything in the Universe and claimed himself to be the greatest calamity in the universe. Shows how strong is the Abyssal Power.
 
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I agree with your take on the Celestial Principles and the Dragon King, but I disagree with the possible 4-C scaling for Venti and Mavuika. Also, why on earth should the Sinners scale that high just because of Rhino’s case? It was explicitly stated that she merely found the “heart” of the Shadow of Life — we have no details on how that happened, let alone any indication that she actually fought it. Using Rhino’s feat to upscale all the Sinners feels like a massive stretch in logic. The most we know is that the Sinners can “shake” the world, but that statement lacks context.
Rhino’s situation is isolated and shouldn’t apply to the others.
 
I agree with your take on the Celestial Principles and the Dragon King, but I disagree with the possible 4-C scaling for Venti and Mavuika. Also, why on earth should the Sinners scale that high just because of Rhino’s case? It was explicitly stated that she merely found the “heart” of the Shadow of Life — we have no details on how that happened, let alone any indication that she actually fought it. Using Rhino’s feat to upscale all the Sinners feels like a massive stretch in logic.
Umm.. I never said that the Sinners scales to the shades because of Rhine ate Naberius' heart but HER being the new Shade/Ruler of Life.
The most we know is that the Sinners can “shake” the world, but that statement lacks context.
Rhino’s situation is isolated and shouldn’t apply to the others.
it's already been consistent that the Sinners can destroy the whole world. They already say it in the Livestream Special Program and then Surtalogi's lore in Skirk's character story.
 
Umm.. I never said that the Sinners scales to the shades because of Rhine ate Naberius' heart but HER being the new Shade/Ruler of Life.

it's already been consistent that the Sinners can destroy the whole world. They already say it in the Livestream Special Program and then Surtalogi's lore in Skirk's character story.
Yeah, exactly — and what does any of that have to do with the other Sinners? We have no idea how strong Rhino was before merging with Naberius, who’s basically a baseline Sinner. You’re trying to scale an entire group based on a single feat from one individual, without any explanation or demonstration of how that feat was even accomplished.
Just because Rhino merged with Naberius, that doesn’t automatically make all Sinners comparable to Naberius.
 
Just because Rhino merged with Naberius, that doesn’t automatically make all Sinners comparable to Naberius.
Comparable to Rhinedottir*

Theres no doubt that the Sinners can be scaled to the Four Shades as they're the god-tier in the verse right now and we already acknowledge that since long ago.

First, Most of the Sinners perfomed stronger feats than the Seven Sovereigns, the same Seven Sovereigns who fought the Heavenly Principles and the Four Shades and manage to make the heavenly principles and four shades struggle for 40 years.

So Heavenly Principles >= Dragon King Nibelung > Four Shades > Sinners >= Sovereigns.
 
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