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How do you propose his reactive evolution respond to it?
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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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It's actually pretty easy. Stop the functioning of all senses and rely only on the search quirk to show Gojo's location. Then kill him.
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I believe that the Unlimited Void would affect Tomura too quickly for that evolution to kick into gear.
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No. You can't think but all of the body's primary functions keep working because that's a different part of the brain. Reactive evolution has nothing to do with thinking as it is a completely instinctual process. I mean look at Doomsday, he doesn't even have functioning cognitive abilities. It's all evolved just to kill.
Plus it's not like UV can finish Shigaraki off anyway. Once the domain runs out he will heal. We see a Nomu straight up regen a chunk of it's brain while this isn't even doing much physical damage.
Not to mention the another layer of defense. All for One. He is a vestige, no brain to overwhelm. He needs to just give one command.
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Well, I didn't say it needed to finish him off. It just needs to immobilize him long enough for Gojo to hit him with a massive attack.
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Doesn’t the vestige world counter UV? AFO can pilot from within there.
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Also is there an ultra age translation archive or something?
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If the anime is considered canon now, I can bring up how the Nagant fight made it so Deku blitzed an entire city street BEFORE THE LIGHT from his own OFA energy could light up that same street. FTL?
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It only applies to Season 8
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What massive attack ? Tomura's Jumping KE is higher than Gojo's max AP.
It's like Guldo doing a time stop against Frieza. Congrats you took your last breath.
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I guess he could use something similar to the spatial manipulation cursed technique he used on the can. But I don’t k ow if he ever uses that on a larger scale, and it’s probably counteracted by Shiggy’s regen.
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A point-blank Hollow Purple to Tomura's brain would probably kill him.
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Ain’t that like a 400 kiloton attack
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To be fair this isn't an official versus thread, I'm just going off of vibes right now instead of strictly what is accepted on our profiles.
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I still can’t get over Quirkless Deku’s durability being higher than that listed purple’s value on the profiles man
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Exactly. I love Mirko to death but I don't see her strolling through a barrage of nuclear explosions without a scratch on her just because that's what our profiles say.
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Yeah but Shigaraki actually has gone through a nuclear explosion and much larger attacks than hollow purple even if we ignore calcs.
Even if we just use "Wahh, big explosion go boom" logic, MHA still leaves JJK in the dirt. It's far less consistent than OPM sure but it's still there.
Although Chain Scaling can lead to some ridiculous stuff. Like Ben Tennyson in human form being Solar System level and Millions of times in FTL. It's just hilarious.
Even if we just use "Wahh, big explosion go boom" logic, MHA still leaves JJK in the dirt. It's far less consistent than OPM sure but it's still there.
Although Chain Scaling can lead to some ridiculous stuff. Like Ben Tennyson in human form being Solar System level and Millions of times in FTL. It's just hilarious.
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@CastoriceTheFifth and you didn't want me to make gojo vs shiggy coz shiggy might lose
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He went through a small fraction of it thanks to some quick thinking on his part, but I get your point.
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He literally doesn’t have spatial manipulation quirk on his profile to even make this a fight
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no i mean speed unequal
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Are you trying to argue being FTL bypasses Limitless
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it does
blitzing gojo before he can activate anything
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He doesn’t need to activate anything, Infinity is always on and auto-ALLOWS non-threats.
That’s why he can step on ants he doesn’t notice and the ants don’t die.
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bruh
everytime i make a gojo thread and speed is not = the other dude always win coz of the speed difference
even saitama beat gojo
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Well maybe they shouldn’t have won, unless there were other factors involved.
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Tomura Shigaraki Vs Hulk (My Hero Academia Vs Marvel Comics) [0-0-0]
Tomura Shigaraki Vs Hulk Childlike Hulk is used Completed Shigaraki is used Speed is equalized Fight takes place in an inhabited planet Starting Distance: 240 meters Hulk is limited to 5-B since his rage power is restricted Symbol of Fear: The Strongest One There is:
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In theory.
We've only ever seen this "Piloting" dynamic when AFO was trying to take over Tomura during the Hospital Raid, so his Vestige wasn't feeling the attacks Tomura was taking. Although his level of control was limited. And perhaps when Tomura takes over during the Final War?
The more he takes control over the body, the more he comes to the forefront and would then be susceptible to the damages suffered by Tomura's body.
If AFO taking control (whether partially or completely) allows him to use some other attack such as an Air Cannon (like how AFO used the tendrils on Endeavor) then yeah that counts as overcoming UV.
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Can be said for the wiki in general tbh.
But Mirko has some undeniable strength feats and explosions in MHA are often portrayed to be non-lethal enough that I can see her survive nukes.
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I will say they still do upscale the fact that even goons like Stain could apparently still have his body intact and talk even if near death from being thrown through several skyscrappers so like they ARE impressive even for dudes who don't have strength or durability enhancing quirks
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Yeah. That's the level of feat that I would see Mirko getting up from with little to no issues.
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Since Shigaraki doesn’t have CE would Gojo just be able to spawn a Purple inside his brain or something?
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Also, Shigaraki vs Sage Centipede.
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He can spawn blues in him sure but Gojo still has to fire red from his fingers iirc so no purple spawn. purple spam is viable tho seeing as Gojo can use many purples at once and todo said Yuta in Gojo body could do spam purples and Gojo>Yuta, especially in terms of limitless usage
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All Might said that AFO's style was ranged energy attacks, and that's how we see him fight in his flashback with Nana, and most of the time when he was rewound, honestly if AFO could just nullify resistance with his "spatial manipulation" and that was what hurt All Might prime so badly, i'm 99% sure it would be something All Might would have mentioned instead of his ranged attacks, since attacks like that, just like decay and rewind, tend to be especially elevated in importance by the characters
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And it's been mentioned by multiple characters that All Might doesn't dodge attacks, he takes them head on. Which is probably the most important detail regarding this topic besides the fact that All For One had to distract All Might with mind games in order to get a clean hit on him.
Which boils down to two possibilities: either All Might dodged All For One's attacks (which, given the former point, indicates that he didn't) or he tanked most of All For One's offense (the most likely scenario) which necessitated AFO needing to play underhandedly.
Another thing is that All Might's stomach injury appears to be the only major injury he suffered during that fight. Which again supports that AFO had to use a different kind of Quirk that needed All Might to be stationary to hit him, otherwise All Might would've tanked it like most of AFO's other attacks.
All of this led to the belief that AFO likely used the space warp Quirk, an attack that he rarely uses, guarantees some form of dura neg and needs the opponent to be slowed down in order to hit.
As for All Might not mentioning it; it's a moot point. Nobody ever actually mentions any of AFO's Quirks specifically as far as I can remember. Only vague references to his previous fighting style but never the specifics. Which is a shame and one of my criticisms regarding the writing of AFO's character and history, but that's a topic for another day.
Which boils down to two possibilities: either All Might dodged All For One's attacks (which, given the former point, indicates that he didn't) or he tanked most of All For One's offense (the most likely scenario) which necessitated AFO needing to play underhandedly.
Another thing is that All Might's stomach injury appears to be the only major injury he suffered during that fight. Which again supports that AFO had to use a different kind of Quirk that needed All Might to be stationary to hit him, otherwise All Might would've tanked it like most of AFO's other attacks.
All of this led to the belief that AFO likely used the space warp Quirk, an attack that he rarely uses, guarantees some form of dura neg and needs the opponent to be slowed down in order to hit.
As for All Might not mentioning it; it's a moot point. Nobody ever actually mentions any of AFO's Quirks specifically as far as I can remember. Only vague references to his previous fighting style but never the specifics. Which is a shame and one of my criticisms regarding the writing of AFO's character and history, but that's a topic for another day.
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I personally believe All Might got hit with that Spatial Rend ass Quirk.
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It is a shame we never got to see that fight. Also with JJK Modulo I wonder if there will be a MHA spinoff by Hori himself.
I really want two eras in the spinoffs. The initial quirk appearance era. And the quirk Doomsday era.
The initial era has really great horror/thriller potential as most of humanity has not yet adapted to quirks so kids with powers in a world of powerless people is absolutely terrifying.
Could make a very tense storyline on it. Why quirks initially feared until they became the eventual future of humanity.
Talking about the future. We can get a manga set in the future. 100% of the population has quirks, and not just gimmicks but pretty much even the weakest individuals can destroy buildings.
Even a fight among grade schoolers could lead to insane damage to the environment. The control quirks is diminishing too.
So the government becomes stricter and stricter with Quirk laws until society starts cracking under the pressure. State no longer has monopoly on violence like they used to so enforcing laws has becomes impossible.
This leads to the age of chaos and rule by strength. Dictators of countries are no longer just humans with a lot of money, they are threats to entire countries. The terrorists don't need bombs, plans or funding. Just fanatics with strong quirks.
And civilians no longer wait for authority. They fight tooth and nail like it was the stoneage again.
I really want two eras in the spinoffs. The initial quirk appearance era. And the quirk Doomsday era.
The initial era has really great horror/thriller potential as most of humanity has not yet adapted to quirks so kids with powers in a world of powerless people is absolutely terrifying.
Could make a very tense storyline on it. Why quirks initially feared until they became the eventual future of humanity.
Talking about the future. We can get a manga set in the future. 100% of the population has quirks, and not just gimmicks but pretty much even the weakest individuals can destroy buildings.
Even a fight among grade schoolers could lead to insane damage to the environment. The control quirks is diminishing too.
So the government becomes stricter and stricter with Quirk laws until society starts cracking under the pressure. State no longer has monopoly on violence like they used to so enforcing laws has becomes impossible.
This leads to the age of chaos and rule by strength. Dictators of countries are no longer just humans with a lot of money, they are threats to entire countries. The terrorists don't need bombs, plans or funding. Just fanatics with strong quirks.
And civilians no longer wait for authority. They fight tooth and nail like it was the stoneage again.
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I feel like there's something odd about this line of argument anyway.
A little further back in the thread, I asked why we assumed AFO's telekinesis was spatial manipulation, and the answer was that the spatial manipulation of one of the high ends looked like... that high end was able to attack a fast-moving character like Mirko with that. Why would AFO's version of the quirk require the target to stay still?
Also, if we were to use as a reference how AFO's "mind games" are represented on Kamino and with Endeavour, or with Midoriya while controlling Shigaraki's body in the First War, it's not like he uses these mind games to make people stand still, but to make them lose their temper and be less meticulous in battle.
Also, I'd say there are two more points that are important:
1. The context in which All Might was talking about how AFO liked to attack with ranged attacks was to be able to weaken his opponents and take away their quirks. Up until that point, AFO had been able to eliminate all of the OFA wielders with ease, so it's admissible that AFO started with typical "weak" attacks and, upon realizing that those weren't working, started making better combinations, whether ranged or physical.
2- AFO's space warp Quirk covers TO MUCH of range to be what injured All Might. That thing would have blown Hawks's entire body away, and it literally had the range to completely cover Yoichi, killing him.
And instead only left a "small", focused hole in All Might? Isn't it more likely that he attacked him with the type of attack he used against Endeavor? Especially since the next moment when Endeavor got up and attacked him, AFO mentions how that moment with Endeavor reminds him of the one he had with All Might Prime.
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Even if it takes us ten years i suspect we will eventually get a My Hero Academia sequel series.
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