Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Splash Star

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Partly a fear of becoming Bakugan or Kamen Rider (where about two seasons' scaling matters, or there are huge tier jumps due to when crossovers start), and partly because only about half the seasons treat it as canon.

but how do you separate PreCure into a series and all stars, when all stars are literally part of the universe, only at a higher level, and they are in a single transcendent chronology that is embodied by chronosto. and the infinite-dimensional universes, and the transcendent spaces, and the recursive hierarchies of stories within stories, are all part of the story, and it is strange to separate them. it is like scaling DBS without considering the movies, which is not only pointless but also harmful.

 

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While there are tie-ins, most seasons have their own lore and cosmology (it's why I asked about the Splash Star Resistances, there's a chance the writers just forgot).

Unless you have a guidebook I don't, Chronosto doesn't embody time.
Mirai Days has Solcière, but if we count that, all the feats in Kirakira through Hirogaru are moot.

 

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the authors didn't forget, it's just that Miden is stronger than Goyan.

and why a guidebook for something that was almost directly stated in the series? and about the fact that chronostos was older than chaos (which is the basis of all prequier cosmology before the appearance of the dog and supreme), and about its influence on time, and about the pointlessness of the cycle of life and chaos in relation to it-everything was stated directly.

mirai days expands the cosmology, but does not affect its parts. The precursors were roughly equal to each other, and they remained so (which is also confirmed by hugtto, where all stars was part of the series, and felice (who is the strongest precursor), kira kira, who recreated the universe, and dokidoki, who defeated the original darkness, did not stand out much from happiness charge, yes 5, and heartcatch, where the villains were not particularly impressive. They share the same cosmology, the same mechanics of the universe, and the same rules, so there's no point in treating them differently.

 

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the authors didn't forget, it's just that Miden is stronger than Goyan.

OK. It goes for timestop, too. I kind of like that Precure hasn't power-gated an ability since Max Heart.

and why a guidebook for something that was almost directly stated in the series? and about the fact that chronostos was older than chaos (which is the basis of all prequier cosmology before the appearance of the dog and supreme), and about its influence on time, and about the pointlessness of the cycle of life and chaos in relation to it-everything was stated directly.

Plausible.

mirai days expands the cosmology, but does not affect its parts.

Guess not.

The precursors were roughly equal to each other, and they remained so

Rapapa and Deusmast?

(which is also confirmed by hugtto, where all stars was part of the series, and felice (who is the strongest precursor)

Then they didn't remain so.

kira kira, who recreated the universe

No, that was Star Twinkle. KiraKira only recreated the planet, and needed billions of people's help.

and dokidoki, who defeated the original darkness

Shadow isn't indicated to be connected to Dark King/Black Hole.

They share the same cosmology, the same mechanics of the universe, and the same rules, so there's no point in treating them differently.

Ah yes, the three Santas all coexist, and this is not strange. Every adult remembers being petrified, monster swarms, and becoming a Precure, they just don't mention it.
It sort of works because most things are kept secret, but that's just decelerated SCP.

 

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Rapapa and Deusmast?

Previous precure

Then they didn't remain so.

Felice was strongest at all.

No, that was Star Twinkle. KiraKira only recreated the planet, and needed billions of people's help.

Elisio warped all universe,and they restored it to normal

Shadow isn't indicated to be connected to Dark King/Black Hole.

I don't even mentioned shadow. I said about proto-jikochuu

Ah yes, the three Santas all coexist, and this is not strange. Every adult remembers being petrified, monster swarms, and becoming a Precure, they just don't mention it.
It sort of works because most things are kept secret, but that's just decelerated SCP.

I said not about that. Precure cosmology bases on power of life and chaos. All other is just an aspect,and it will be any. Kirakiraru,twinkle imagination,asu/togepower,spirit power and destruction power and even pure darkness. All negative pole is part of chaos,all positive is life. There's only 2 characters outside of this principle-chronosto and supreme

 

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Previous precure

Alright

Felice was strongest at all.

OK.

Elisio warped all universe,and they restored it to normal

Look at all the stars in the background.

I don't even mentioned shadow. I said about proto-jikochuu

Ah.

I said not about that. Precure cosmology bases on power of life and chaos. All other is just an aspect,and it will be any. Kirakiraru,twinkle imagination,asu/togepower,spirit power and destruction power and even pure darkness. All negative pole is part of chaos,all positive is life. There's only 2 characters outside of this principle-chronosto and supreme

I don't think many of them were about chaos, though "life" is about right.

 

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Look at all the stars in the background.

They lost their power. This is just lifeless space now

Ah.

Yes,proto jikochuu is primal darkness of dokidoki

I don't think many of them were about chaos, though "life" is about right.

All things born with chaos. Chaos is primal void,that created light and darkness,life and death and so on

 

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They lost their power. This is just lifeless space now

From Elisio... eating the planet? Or the thing before that (I will admit, space looks a bit grey)?

Yes,proto jikochuu is primal darkness of dokidoki

Impressive for a guy who has one episode of screentime in a reletively low-scale season.

All things born with chaos. Chaos is primal void that created light and darkness, life and death and so on

This isn't Sailor Moon.

 

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From Elisio... eating the planet? Or the thing before that (I will admit, space looks a bit grey)?

Yes,he rebuilt universe when became chaotic entity

Impressive for a guy who has one episode of screentime in a reletively low-scale season.

Yes. He is same as dark king or even better,because dark king is just an aspect of darkness,and proto-jikochuu is darkness itself

This isn't Sailor Moon.

Yes, it's better. We clearly know things were born from chaos

 

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Yes,he rebuilt universe when became chaotic entity

Technically, he didn't fusion dance until a bit later. By the way, you're supposed to put spaces after commas.

Yes. He is same as dark king or even better,because dark king is just an aspect of darkness,and proto-jikochuu is darkness itself

Source? I always thought that was Black Hole, though it wasn't stated.

Yes, it's better. We clearly know things were born from chaos

Source? There you go.

 

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Technically, he didn't fusion dance until a bit later. By the way, you're supposed to put spaces after commas.

He absorbed Noir darkness and Lumiere light and neutralised them,making chaos

Source? I always thought that was Black Hole, though it wasn't stated.

Black hole is just emanation of all-verse chaos,what is source of all. In recent dokidoki novel was said that proto-jikochuu is a primordial darkness,what existed before God said "let the be light"

Source? There you go.

In futari wa novel it was said that dark king and queen of light were born from chaos and then together drove chaos out of past and future,creating universe. In mahotsukai all was born from chaos. + Chaos was that what created darkness,what is the source of all evil forces. +In futari wa was stated that if king and queen will destroy each other,that will be chaos,what existed before life and after life,and is that state,where even darkness(deepest void) is not exist

 

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He absorbed Noir darkness and Lumiere light and neutralised them,making chaos

I thought he made nothingness.

I see how it is.

Black hole is just emanation of all-verse chaos,what is source of all. In recent dokidoki novel was said that proto-jikochuu is a primordial darkness,what existed before God said "let the be light"

Inori's right confirmed?

In futari wa novel it was said that dark king and queen of light were born from chaos and then together drove chaos out of past and future,creating universe. In mahotsukai all was born from chaos. + Chaos was that what created darkness,what is the source of all evil forces. +In futari wa was stated that if king and queen will destroy each other,that will be chaos,what existed before life and after life,and is that state,where even darkness(deepest void) is not exist

That almost sounds low 2-C.

Is English your first language?

 

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Inori's right confirmed?

it's not a fact that this is a Christian god. although it's possible

That almost sounds low 2-C.

Is English your first language?

it's definitely not low 2c, because just trying to describe it requires a theory of everything, especially considering that in precure cosmology, black holes also have universes

"It's something that we scientists have been pursuing for a long time.From your generation, the key to integrating relativity and quantum theory and building a theory of all things that unravels everything in the universe may be right in front of you."

No, English is not my first

 

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Should we revise Futari wa or Wonderful first?

 

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it's not a fact that this is a Christian god. although it's possible

it's definitely not low 2c, because just trying to describe it requires a theory of everything, especially considering that in precure cosmology, black holes also have universes

"It's something that we scientists have been pursuing for a long time.From your generation, the key to integrating relativity and quantum theory and building a theory of all things that unravels everything in the universe may be right in front of you."

No, English is not my first

Fair enough to both.

 

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Should we revise Futari wa or Wonderful first?

and here it doesn't matter where to start, because everything needs to be reviewed, including manga (where the same mahotsukai galaxies move without a cure form and star twinkle regenerates from the void without the same form), light novel (the same princesses with their all-fiction forest, where each leaf contains a story, including a precure story, and where each story has its own forest of stories, and which are fictions for a higher plane of reality), guide books (where it is said that planets are the seeds of the universe, in which everything that exists in the universe is densely packed (which is confirmed by mahotsukai, where a fragment of the earth floating in the void, he created a copy of the original universe around himself)) and interviews with the authors (who, for example, talked about the creation of the world by pumple's mother, who sewed a Refi doll that had its own story worlds that the evil there was going to consume, and equated it with god, or when they explained the meeting of Hikaru and nodoka in the finale of star twinkle with the concept of a completely parallel world (that is, there is the world of star twinkle with its own events, there is the world of healin'good with its own, and there is a common one where events go together, and explanations about the supreme)), and there are no more important and less important elements here-everything is equally important, and ignoring the same The future mechanics of Hugtto will greatly undermine the general understanding

 

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That's cool, but it would be impractical to not do seasons one at a time.

Fair warning, most mangas are not considered canon.

 

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That's cool, but it would be impractical to not do seasons one at a time.

So it better to start with mahotsukai

Fair warning, most mangas are not considered canon.

All mangas and novels are

 

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So it better to start with mahotsukai

We can, but I have a blog for Cure Black.

All mangas and novels are

That might need to be its own thread.

 

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We can, but I have a blog for Cure Black.

I know,but it's seems unclear

That might need to be its own thread.

Why? It's literally same series events or continuation of series. That's like putting luffy and alabasta and wano arc like two different characters

 

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The novels tend to continue it, but the manga are in parallel, and have character development and chronology that don't mesh well.

 

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The novels tend to continue it, but the manga are in parallel, and have character development and chronology that don't mesh well.

they happen either between episodes or after the series (like some of the chapters of Kirakira). the events of the episodes happen once a week, with a few differences when certain events follow each other. and the manga tells us what happened off-screen and explains important things (like how the precures can regenerate from nothing). In addition to continuing the story, the novels also explain many things (such as the smile novel, which states that the world of laziness that the Joker sent the heroines to, and which they easily destroyed, is an exact replica of the universe) and many other things. they cannot be ignored physically

 

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Yes, KiraKira. In the anime, Ichika meets Yukari a week before Akira, and is a decent amateur baker at the start of the series.
In the manga, Ichika's a terrible baker, and meets Akira first ("meets" is a strong word, but still).

 

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Yes, KiraKira. In the anime, Ichika meets Yukari a week before Akira, and is a decent amateur baker at the start of the series.
In the manga, Ichika's a terrible baker, and meets Akira first ("meets" is a strong word, but still).

well, it's not critical to the plot, especially since Ichika isn't a particularly good baker in the anime. Her sweets are good because of Kirakiraru, but their appearance leaves much to be desired

 

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You remember better than me, but I think my point stands.

 

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You remember better than me, but I think my point stands.

Well, first of all, you should start with cosmology, because it covers the entire franchise, interacting with each other (the words from the interview for the movie Star Twinkle about planets being compressed universes are confirmed by the plot of Mahotsukai and the fact that this energy represents something big for the villains, the infinite-dimensional structure of each universe in the novels is confirmed by the cosmology of black holes, and the concept of reality-fiction is present everywhere, and this is not counting the fundamental things for cosmology), and then make profiles. because Nagisa's 3-A is a total underestimation, even if we ignore the main cosmology and focus solely on the first two series and novellas

 

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That'll take a while, though I do intend to do it.

 

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That'll take a while, though I do intend to do it.

Gardens are different universes

 

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Yeah, that thing's old.

Let's be clear though, it looks like that.

 

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Yeah, that thing's old.

Let's be clear though, it looks like that.

well, look. if we're talking about a brief cosmology, then season 1 has a garden of rainbows, a garden of light, hope, and clouds, as well as a zone of darkness and worlds in paintings, mirrors, and memories.

splash star has a regular universe, 6 fountains, and dark fall as a dimension of emptiness. there's also a labyrinth of eternity.

the five are the normal universe, the memory worlds, the story worlds, the mirror worlds, the common mirror world, the candy world, the world where koko and the others came from, the nightmare dimension, the eternal dimension, the garden of life, and a certain dimension of emptiness.

fresh is a multiverse,void dimension,memory worlds and mirror worlds,and space without directions in the body of daimafist

heartchatch is a normal universe(although I call it normal,but it is only normal in relation to precure),test dimensions.

suite is a normal universe,majorland and minorland.

smiley is maerchenland(the dimension of all stories where archetypes live), bad end kingdom, worlds within stories, including the source worlds from which all others originate, and the mysterious library. + artificial worlds that are exact copies of the universe (like the world of laziness created by the joker, which Miyuki was going to destroy with a single blow), and the abyss of despair (although this is more of a true essence of pierrot, who is the concept of the worst ending of all stories)

in Dokidoki, there is the regular universe, the universe of the козырное королевство, the worlds of memory, and the dimensions within the monsters of the week.

in happiness charge, it's a regular universe and the artificial world of black fang.

in go princess, it's a regular universe, hope kingdom is a place beyond dreams and hopes, story worlds, orimuru story forest, where every leaf is a story, including the story of precure, and each story has its own forest with its own story worlds, with different laws and cosmological complexity, as well as memory worlds.

in mahotsukai, it's the regular universe, the magic universe created by a piece of the planet that broke off from it, the story worlds, and the universe created by shakince, which Lico destroyed with a casual attack, as well as the new universe created by Deusmast when it was destroyed+the transcendent chronology.

in kirakira, it's the regular universe, the noir world, and the artificial spaces and emptiness within elizio.

hugtto has a regular universe, memory worlds, and story worlds.

in star twinkle, the regular universe, hoshizora kai, the universes inside the mind, the universes inside black holes, and the place outside the spacetime continuum.

in healin'good, the regular universe, and the worlds of biogens and... I forgot the name.

in tropical rouge, the regular universe, the worlds of memory, and the worlds behind the mirrors.

in delicious party, the regular universe, cookingdom, and the delicious field created by rosemary.

in hirogaru sky, there is a regular universe, skyland, and underg empire

and in wonderful, there is a regular universe and Niko's garden, which is the legendary god.

add all stars to this

 

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I will need sources.

worlds in paintings, mirrors, and memories.

Don't remember those in FW.

a labyrinth of eternity.

Is that the movie place?

the five are the normal universe, the memory worlds, the story worlds, the mirror worlds, the common mirror world, the candy world, the world where koko and the others came from, the nightmare dimension, the eternal dimension, the garden of life, and a certain dimension of emptiness.

Dimension of emptiness?

fresh is a multiverse, void dimension, memory worlds and mirror worlds,and space without directions in the body of daimafist

Daimafist?

heartchatch is a normal universe(although I call it normal,but it is only normal in relation to precure),test dimensions.

Pocket realities.

<Suite, Smile>
No surprises there.

in Dokidoki, there is the regular universe, the universe of the козырное королевство, the worlds of memory, and the dimensions within the monsters of the week.

Trump Kingdom.

in happiness charge, it's a regular universe and the artificial world of black fang.

Wasn't Hime from somewhere funny?

In kirakira, it's the regular universe, the noir world, and the artificial spaces and emptiness within elizio.

I thought Elisio only contained a pocket reality.

hugtto has a regular universe, memory worlds, and story worlds.

It does?

in star twinkle, the regular universe, hoshizora kai, the universes inside the mind, the universes inside black holes, and the place outside the spacetime continuum.

I thought they were another galaxy and a metaphor, respectively.

in healin'good, the regular universe, and the worlds of biogens and... I forgot the name.

Healing Garden.

in tropical rouge, the regular universe, the worlds of memory, and the worlds behind the mirrors.

Mirrors again?

in delicious party, the regular universe, cookingdom, and the delicious field created by rosemary.

I get the impression that Deliciousfeild is temporary. Also, if we include it, we should mention all of the Idol spaces in KtI.

in hirogaru sky, there is a regular universe, skyland, and underg empire

OK.

and in wonderful, there is a regular universe and Niko's garden, which is the legendary god.

Okay?

add all stars to this

Miracle Station, the place Clover was in... Yeah, there's a lot.

 

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I will need sources.

Don't remember those in FW.

Pisard send girl into painting world,poisoni manipulates mirror words.

Is that the movie place?

Yes,multidimensional Labyrinth into the suitcase.

Dimension of emptiness?

Yes,where kawarino send bloody.

Daimafist?

Novel monster

Pocket realities.suite is a normal universe,majorland and minorland.

They have same life energy potential

Wasn't Hime from somewhere funny?

Pretty sure blue sky kingdom is just another country on earth

I thought Elisio only contained a pocket reality.

No, it's complete chaotic void,that even suppress soul potential

It does?

Yes

I thought they were another galaxy and a metaphor, respectively.

If this was just an imagination(even then it's realistic,because star twinkle cosmology bases on imagination),it could be metaphor. But when hikaru restores herself and lala via creating her own big bang-of course not.

Healing Garden.

Thanks

Mirrors again?

Yes. Mirrors also has worlds inside of them,and they are fictional to reality

I get the impression that Deliciousfeild is temporary. Also, if we include it, we should mention all of the Idol spaces in KtI.

It's temporary because rosemary creates it and destroys when he needs,but yes,this are pocket dimensions,created by monster of the week victim

Miracle Station, the place Clover was in... Yeah, there's a lot.

Miracle station,prism flower place, completely parallel worlds,clover place,real world,sakura world,individual dream worlds,collective dream world,supreme(what literally highest thing in precure,beyond evolution of life)

 

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Pisard send girl into painting world,poisoni manipulates mirror words.

I sort of remember. Don't know how big they are, though.
Also, the painting world might be 11-C.

Yes,multidimensional Labyrinth into the suitcase.

I may need elaboration.

Yes,where kawarino send bloody.

Didn't he get out?

Novel monster

Got it.

They have same life energy potential

Sorry, I just meant the Heartcatch trial rooms.

Pretty sure blue sky kingdom is just another country on earth

OK.

No, it's complete chaotic void,that even suppress soul potential

Inside him, or in the modified universe? The latter needed manual maintenance, so it's not a (magic) law.

Yes [there are Hugtto worlds.]

Scans would be good.

If this was just an imagination(even then it's realistic,because star twinkle cosmology bases on imagination),it could be metaphor. But when hikaru restores herself and lala via creating her own big bang-of course not.

Sorry, I just mean that "universe in your heart" could be.

Yes. Mirrors also has worlds inside of them,and they are fictional to reality

That's not the usual rule.

It's temporary because rosemary creates it and destroys when he needs,but yes,this are pocket dimensions,created by monster of the week victim

To be fair, he was useful at first.

Miracle station,prism flower place, completely parallel worlds,clover place,real world,sakura world,individual dream worlds,collective dream world,supreme(what literally highest thing in precure,beyond evolution of life)

Supreme's strong, but not a place.

Again, sources will be needed if we want to actually apply them.

 

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I sort of remember. Don't know how big they are, though.
Also, the painting world might be 11-C.

this painting is a copy of reality, which relates to each other as reality relates to fiction. In other words, the quantum multiverse and transcendent spaces are contained within the painting

I may need elaboration.

it's difficult, because the editor doesn't provide a convenient way to attach images, and I don't want to spend another 3 hours trying to upload images to a single website and then transfer them here. In general, the article shows non-Euclidean geometry spaces that resemble the Penrose triangle, which are impossible in three-dimensional space.

Didn't he get out?

Yes, characters have abilities to get out from the void

Inside him, or in the modified universe? The latter needed manual maintenance, so it's not a (magic) law.

Inside him. He suppressed soul potential to nothing and planet energy(and planets is copy of universes with same energy and concepts on that level that they can even create new universe by itself

Scans would be good.

Hard,maybe later. When homare went to little mermaid story,that dimension was inside Oshimaida,and contained outer space if I remember correctly.

Sorry, I just mean that "universe in your heart" could be.

Yes,all hearts have universes.

To be fair, he was useful at first.

Less than 1 episode and when restored his crystal. Not so much

Supreme's strong, but not a place.

Supreme is the place. She's god of otherworld,what lies beyond of all. Beyond all stories of different quality orders,beyond of chaos with blackhole as avatar,beyond of Chronosto,beyond of life and all concept. They are meaningless for it

Again, sources will be needed if we want to actually apply them.

Later,but i'll do it

 

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this painting is a copy of reality, which relates to each other as reality relates to fiction. In other words, the quantum multiverse and transcendent spaces are contained within the painting

NLF.

it's difficult, because the editor doesn't provide a convenient way to attach images, and I don't want to spend another 3 hours trying to upload images to a single website and then transfer them here. In general, the article shows non-Euclidean geometry spaces that resemble the Penrose triangle, which are impossible in three-dimensional space.

I'd recommend linking Imgur, but it's blocked where I am.

Yes, characters have abilities to get out from the void

No objection.

Inside him. He suppressed soul potential to nothing and planet energy(and planets is copy of universes with same energy and concepts on that level that they can even create new universe by itself

I mean, the people inside him had the power to recreate the planet...

Hard,maybe later. When homare went to little mermaid story,that dimension was inside Oshimaida,and contained outer space if I remember correctly.

Tier 3 Criasu. Consistent with having enough in-series crossovers that I will wave single-series scaling.

Yes,all hearts have universes.

I want a metaphor, OK?

Less than 1 episode and when restored his crystal. Not so much

He helped in episode 2, it's only once Spicy showed up that he was on permanent lookout duty.

Supreme is the place. She's god of otherworld,what lies beyond of all. Beyond all stories of different quality orders,beyond of chaos with blackhole as avatar,beyond of Chronosto,beyond of life and all concept. They are meaningless for it

I thought she was a dimension tripper on a power trip.

The setting of All Stars F is a modified Earth.

Later,but i'll do it

Thanks

 

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NLF.

This would be true if we weren't shown the process of entering the worlds of stories that are completely real on the inside but fictional on the outside.

I'd recommend linking Imgur, but it's blocked where I am.

that's exactly why I can't bring myself to do it. because instead of just throwing in the right picture, you have to work around it

I mean, the people inside him had the power to recreate the planet...

planets contain the energy potential of the entire universe, so:

Yuta: It's like the "original seed of the universe," containing everything that exists in the universe. It grows and is influenced by everything it encounters. So, if it didn't have any collisions, I think it would just be a piece of rock.

And they had this power because awakened elisio's soul

Tier 3 Criasu. Consistent with having enough in-series crossovers that I will wave single-series scaling.

oshimaida is not a kriasu, it's a regular monster.

and yes, this hugtto also stated that the sparks coming out of Yell are the infinite energy coming out of the heart.

and it's kind of strange to do scaling for each season, when in the same hugtto, the all stars characters don't get to know each other, but they already know each other because they've met before.

I want a metaphor, OK?

it would be a metaphor if the created worlds were just decorations or didn't exist at all, but just for the sake of "imagine." The problem is that they are real

He helped in episode 2, it's only once Spicy showed up that he was on permanent lookout duty.

Not so much

I thought she was a dimension tripper on a power trip.

The setting of All Stars F is a modified Earth.

no, it's a higher being. it doesn't need power, it's just curious about the Pretty Cure and conducted an experiment.

not quite:
---What do you think about the final scene, and what should people who watch the movie for the second or third time in the future pay attention to?

The final scene of this work is described as follows: "The Pretty Cure return to their own world, but the story of Supreme and Booka, who remain, begins from there." This is the beginning. This is how I see it.

This scene is the best part of this movie.

It's a store, but it's excellent and just gorgeous.

Another point to note is that the world Sora and the others went to this time is a world where the worlds of all the previous Pretty Cure series have been taken apart, then mixed and reconstructed again, a fact that is barely explained in the story. But because it is such a world, elements from the previous series are slightly mixed in the background. There are many fragments of previous worlds, such as the city from "Yes! Pretty Cure 5, "Heavenly Tree and Train," which appeared in "Splash☆Star," and the dance scene that appeared in "Fresh," so I think you'll enjoy the show even more if you pay attention to these moments.

Thanks

let's not be speculative-this Monday I'll upload what I need and throw it here. if I don't do it, ignore every word I say

 

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This would be true if we weren't shown the process of entering the worlds of stories that are completely real on the inside but fictional on the outside.

They can be real without being multiverses.

that's exactly why I can't bring myself to do it. because instead of just throwing in the right picture, you have to work around it

Fair enough. Now that I think about it, you could upload them to the wiki proper, and there is that "insert image" button in the top bar.

planets contain the energy potential of the entire universe, so:

Yuta: It's like the "original seed of the universe," containing everything that exists in the universe. It grows and is influenced by everything it encounters. So, if it didn't have any collisions, I think it would just be a piece of rock.

To be fair, seeds don't become plants without help.

And they had this power because awakened elisio's soul

Except they almost did it without him.

oshimaida is not a kriasu, it's a regular monster.

and yes, this hugtto also stated that the sparks coming out of Yell are the infinite energy coming out of the heart.

and it's kind of strange to do scaling for each season, when in the same hugtto, the all stars characters don't get to know each other, but they already know each other because they've met before.

Sorry, I meant waive.

it would be a metaphor if the created worlds were just decorations or didn't exist at all, but just for the sake of "imagine." The problem is that they are real

Sorry for getting emotional.

no, it's a higher being. it doesn't need power, it's just curious about the Pretty Cure and conducted an experiment.

I don't remember this.

not quite:
---What do you think about the final scene, and what should people who watch the movie for the second or third time in the future pay attention to?

The final scene of this work is described as follows: "The Pretty Cure return to their own world, but the story of Supreme and Booka, who remain, begins from there." This is the beginning. This is how I see it.

This scene is the best part of this movie.

It's a store, but it's excellent and just gorgeous.

Another point to note is that the world Sora and the others went to this time is a world where the worlds of all the previous Pretty Cure series have been taken apart, then mixed and reconstructed again, a fact that is barely explained in the story. But because it is such a world, elements from the previous series are slightly mixed in the background. There are many fragments of previous worlds, such as the city from "Yes! Pretty Cure 5, "Heavenly Tree and Train," which appeared in "Splash☆Star," and the dance scene that appeared in "Fresh," so I think you'll enjoy the show even more if you pay attention to these moments.

I think by "world", they mean "planet", since that's all Supreme's shown targeting, and there aren't parts of Samarian, for example.

let's not be speculative-this Monday I'll upload what I need and throw it here. if I don't do it, ignore every word I say

What's your timezone?

 

[Nnnnnnnnnnnnnmmmmm]

They can be real without being multiverses.

when creating a story, the setting of that story is duplicated, aka the locations and events that exist in it. In the case of this picture, the universe, the garden of light (because mipple ran away from it), and the zone of darkness (as the reason why she ran away from it) are duplicated. Only the dark king and the queen of light are not duplicated, because they exist in a single copy in all the worlds. + Pisard (as well as any other villain, given that he is the weakest) can pull elements of the story into reality.

about mirrors-mirrors duplicate the world behind them

, and in a recursive situation, the recursive nature of the worlds is duplicated. and it is possible to enter them. Additionally, the destruction of a mirror leads to the destruction of the world behind it, which is why Nagisa and Honoka panicked and had to be rescued.

stories can also contain full-fledged mirror recursions

The novel about the princesses mentions the Orimuru forest, where all the stories exist, including the story of the Precure.

The entire Orimuru Forest is a giant library, with stories from all over the world written on the trunks, branches, twigs, and leaves of the trees. ...A soft, glowing pink leaf fell in front of me. I gently picked it up and saw the story of the warriors who protected the world from Disdark (the forces of darkness) -- Cure Flo, Cure Mermaid, Cure Twinkle, and Cure Scarlet.

and each story is a separate world, and the Orimuru forest exists in each of the stories,and inhabitants of stories have their own stories

"In Pumpkin Kingdom, things have life. That's why diaries have their own wills and stories. But I heard that in your world, things only exist as objects."

*Nikaido: After a fun movie ends, if there's a bonus epilogue or side story, it gives you the joy of thinking, "I can see the rest of the movie!" I thought it would be great to link the Refi dolls, and after the long story has concluded, connect it to a dream-like bonus story in the medium-length feature film... like that, a bridge between the medium-length features. If you dig deep into Refi's setting, there might be some parts that make you go "huh?" (laughs), but I hope you can watch it with the feeling that it's a dream, but not a dream.

Zago: Refi is a doll made by Pamplururu's mother, so maybe her mother created the entire world of Pumpkin Kingdom (laughs). Maybe her mother is a god?*

It is also worth noting that the authors equate this with divine powers.

plus, according to the plot, the night pumpkin, being the main villain in the story that came after the mother sewed the toy, tried to absorb the entire orimuru forest, but he tried to push the precures out of the world because they belonged to a higher reality, and he couldn't interact with them from the inside, as he was just a story to them (even though the precure' story was also in the orimuru forest, just like Refi's story, despite the differences between them).

Happy planned to destroy the Joker's world with a single attack in her base form, and the Joker knew she could do it, so he stopped her... using the random monster of the week.

In novel this worlds was explained as perfect copies of reality:

*Thanks to the Joker's power, we were trapped inside the "Lazy Ball." Inside the "Lazy Ball," there was no pain or suffering; it was a world where we could simply play and live our lives lazily, and we lost sight of ourselves.

Is the world we live in now the real world? Have the five of us really lived ten years since then? Perhaps we're trapped in a world like the "Lazy Ball," fooling ourselves into thinking we've become adults?

Suddenly, I was reminded of "The Butterfly Dream," a story from my Japanese textbook. Zhuangzi dreamed he was a butterfly, flying around happily. However, upon waking, he suddenly realized: Was he dreaming he was a butterfly, or was he dreaming that the butterfly was having a dream? I don't know which is true. Is the me living right now the real me? How can I be sure this isn't a dream?

I once borrowed a specialized book on virtual reality from your brother's bookshelf and read it. According to this theory, the world we live in may be a virtual reality constructed by someone. The universe may be a prison simulated by an intricate program, and we may be prisoners living inside it. At the very least, there is no basis for denying that this is not the case. Is it really true that this entire world is a fiction?*

In mahotsukai,Muho was stated as:

*Labu) Beyond all earthly reason—

The power to freely control immense energy*

And owners of muho are

"This is common to all of Muhou's followers, but Director Mitsuzuka's comment that they are 'beyond human understanding' made me think of gods and demons, so I gave them something similar.

and this is despite the fact that people in the pre-curriculum are very close to the theory of everything, one of the hypotheses of which is the mathematical universe hypothesis.

In fresh novel was that:

Angel Peach was wandering "inside" the Great Demon Fist. She was not inside the physical body, but rather a microcosm, or perhaps an alternate dimension, a chaotic, pitch-black darkness with no up, down, left, or right. The vibrations reminded Peach that this was not a microcosm or an alternate dimension, but "inside" the Great Demon Fist. Inside the chaotic Great Demon Fist, Angel Peach was at a loss. Finding Kentaro without any clues in this infinitely expanding space that felt like the universe would be like finding a one-yen coin in the desert.

By the way,here's mentioned term microcosm. Thats universe inside soul/heart. And microcosm is purest copy of all universe,and allows to restore macrocosm from total erasing,including all others microcosms(what girls in star twinkle did).

here is an example of how the energy of the heart is described in hugtto:

--Another distinctive feature is that when you put force into a punch or kick, a sparkling effect appears on their hands and feet.

Zago: That's the light of Asupawawa. Just as Asupawawa overflowed from Hana's heart, allowing her to transform, when the PreCure unleash their powers, Asupawawa overflows. I also think that sparkle makes it easier to convey the feeling of being carried away. I used it in the first episode, which I directed, and since then, the directors of each episode have used it at key moments.

Sato: It's a power that comes from the heart, so it's okay if it overflows a little!

Zago: That's right, the higher it gets, the more it flows infinitely. Since it's the power of the heart, I gave it the feel of a small heart with flares and rays of light. Since it's the counterpart to Togepowera, I had the cinematographer test it several times and adjusted it to make it look sparkly and beautiful.

and most importantly, all these infinities, universes in hearts, and potentials of souls are in a state of nothingness (in the manga, Hikaru was restored from the void by creating a big bang, but the one she needed was specific to her. Considering that she created something from nothing, the quantitative definition of this something is irrelevant in this context, as it is purely a qualitative matter.

Of course, I've also missed out on a lot of the context with the memories that allow you to pull out even boss-level creatures, dreams, the inclusion of certain fragments of cosmology in others (like a story set in a dream or a mirror world in a story), and so on. I haven't explained the mechanics of the future and possibilities, or the conceptual entities (Refrain, being the spirit of the present, captured Miraclun, who was the spirit of the future, completely erasing the future as a concept, causing the world to become stuck in a single day. by depriving him of all possibilities, which even affected the hugtto, who had already fought and defeated the one who intended to destroy all possibilities by stopping time), and the fact that all this mechanics of the future and possibilities is contained in the chronosto, and both time travel and travel to worlds without time are part of the transcendent chronology that he embodies, and for him it is all one. and supreme is even higher than this, and for her, the very fact of everything below her is meaningless

To be fair, seeds don't become plants without help.

that's why life is important for seed growth, because a planet without life is a piece of stone (although the concept of life in precure is very vague, because toys, stones, objects, and even the concept of life itself are primary to light and darkness, meaning that the hypothetical proto jikochu is alive, and the queen of light is alive.

Except they almost did it without him.

not quite. they found his soul and awakened it, and he let them go. and after that, they restored the earth

I think by "world", they mean "planet", since that's all Supreme's shown targeting, and there aren't parts of Samarian, for example.

usually in precure, the word "world" refers to the setting, including all the events. So, for example, the world of Refi's story is the entire cosmos in her story, the forest of stories, and the evil that seeks to consume them. And the planets are depicted as planets. Supreme erased the entire cosmology of precure and then recreated it as she saw fit.

What's your timezone?

Almost 5 am now

 

[Violatas]

I like how this convo has been going on for a month now

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

when creating a story, the setting of that story is duplicated, aka the locations and events that exist in it. In the case of this picture, the universe, the garden of light (because mipple ran away from it), and the zone of darkness (as the reason why she ran away from it) are duplicated. Only the dark king and the queen of light are not duplicated, because they exist in a single copy in all the worlds. + Pisard (as well as any other villain, given that he is the weakest) can pull elements of the story into reality.

That's an interesting argument, but why would they be exempt?

about mirrors-mirrors duplicate the world behind them

, and in a recursive situation, the recursive nature of the worlds is duplicated. and it is possible to enter them.

You're using ACF. That's sort of fine, but this wiki will want English translations. Could've sworn I had one for that, though.

Additionally, the destruction of a mirror leads to the destruction of the world behind it, which is why Nagisa and Honoka panicked and had to be rescued.

Not because they might be trapped there?

stories can also contain full-fledged mirror recursions

Yeah, but it seems like the nineth reflection thing was a myth.

The novel about the princesses mentions the Orimuru forest, where all the stories exist, including the story of the Precure.

The entire Orimuru Forest is a giant library, with stories from all over the world written on the trunks, branches, twigs, and leaves of the trees. ...A soft, glowing pink leaf fell in front of me. I gently picked it up and saw the story of the warriors who protected the world from Disdark (the forces of darkness) -- Cure Flo, Cure Mermaid, Cure Twinkle, and Cure Scarlet.

and each story is a separate world, and the Orimuru forest exists in each of the stories,and inhabitants of stories have their own stories

"In Pumpkin Kingdom, things have life. That's why diaries have their own wills and stories. But I heard that in your world, things only exist as objects."

*Nikaido: After a fun movie ends, if there's a bonus epilogue or side story, it gives you the joy of thinking, "I can see the rest of the movie!" I thought it would be great to link the Refi dolls, and after the long story has concluded, connect it to a dream-like bonus story in the medium-length feature film... like that, a bridge between the medium-length features. If you dig deep into Refi's setting, there might be some parts that make you go "huh?" (laughs), but I hope you can watch it with the feeling that it's a dream, but not a dream.

Zago: Refi is a doll made by Pamplururu's mother, so maybe her mother created the entire world of Pumpkin Kingdom (laughs). Maybe her mother is a god?*

It is also worth noting that the authors equate this with divine powers.

plus, according to the plot, the night pumpkin, being the main villain in the story that came after the mother sewed the toy, tried to absorb the entire orimuru forest, but he tried to push the precures out of the world because they belonged to a higher reality, and he couldn't interact with them from the inside, as he was just a story to them (even though the precure' story was also in the orimuru forest, just like Refi's story, despite the differences between them).

Happy planned to destroy the Joker's world with a single attack in her base form, and the Joker knew she could do it, so he stopped her... using the random monster of the week.

In novel this worlds was explained as perfect copies of reality:

*Thanks to the Joker's power, we were trapped inside the "Lazy Ball." Inside the "Lazy Ball," there was no pain or suffering; it was a world where we could simply play and live our lives lazily, and we lost sight of ourselves.

Is the world we live in now the real world? Have the five of us really lived ten years since then? Perhaps we're trapped in a world like the "Lazy Ball," fooling ourselves into thinking we've become adults?

Suddenly, I was reminded of "The Butterfly Dream," a story from my Japanese textbook. Zhuangzi dreamed he was a butterfly, flying around happily. However, upon waking, he suddenly realized: Was he dreaming he was a butterfly, or was he dreaming that the butterfly was having a dream? I don't know which is true. Is the me living right now the real me? How can I be sure this isn't a dream?

I once borrowed a specialized book on virtual reality from your brother's bookshelf and read it. According to this theory, the world we live in may be a virtual reality constructed by someone. The universe may be a prison simulated by an intricate program, and we may be prisoners living inside it. At the very least, there is no basis for denying that this is not the case. Is it really true that this entire world is a fiction?*

OK, that might be 3-A

In mahotsukai,Muho was stated as:

*Labu) Beyond all earthly reason—

The power to freely control immense energy*

I remember something like that.

In fresh novel was that:

Angel Peach was wandering "inside" the Great Demon Fist. She was not inside the physical body, but rather a microcosm, or perhaps an alternate dimension, a chaotic, pitch-black darkness with no up, down, left, or right. The vibrations reminded Peach that this was not a microcosm or an alternate dimension, but "inside" the Great Demon Fist. Inside the chaotic Great Demon Fist, Angel Peach was at a loss. Finding Kentaro without any clues in this infinitely expanding space that felt like the universe would be like finding a one-yen coin in the desert.

By the way,here's mentioned term microcosm. Thats universe inside soul/heart. And microcosm is purest copy of all universe,and allows to restore macrocosm from total erasing,including all others microcosms(what girls in star twinkle did).

I thought Star Twinkle just did it.

here is an example of how the energy of the heart is described in hugtto:

--Another distinctive feature is that when you put force into a punch or kick, a sparkling effect appears on their hands and feet.

Zago: That's the light of Asupawawa. Just as Asupawawa overflowed from Hana's heart, allowing her to transform, when the PreCure unleash their powers, Asupawawa overflows. I also think that sparkle makes it easier to convey the feeling of being carried away. I used it in the first episode, which I directed, and since then, the directors of each episode have used it at key moments.

Sato: It's a power that comes from the heart, so it's okay if it overflows a little!

Zago: That's right, the higher it gets, the more it flows infinitely. Since it's the power of the heart, I gave it the feel of a small heart with flares and rays of light. Since it's the counterpart to Togepowera, I had the cinematographer test it several times and adjusted it to make it look sparkly and beautiful.

I guess we already knew it spilled out, as it can sometimes undo timestop.

and most importantly, all these infinities, universes in hearts, and potentials of souls are in a state of nothingness (in the manga, Hikaru was restored from the void by creating a big bang, but the one she needed was specific to her. Considering that she created something from nothing, the quantitative definition of this something is irrelevant in this context, as it is purely a qualitative matter.

I don't think that's how the site treats it. You can create from nothing, but be limited to a kilo a day, for example.

We should probably make a thread on the canonicities of the manga.

Of course, I've also missed out on a lot of the context with the memories that allow you to pull out even boss-level creatures, dreams, the inclusion of certain fragments of cosmology in others (like a story set in a dream or a mirror world in a story), and so on. I haven't explained the mechanics of the future and possibilities, or the conceptual entities (Refrain, being the spirit of the present, captured Miraclun, who was the spirit of the future, completely erasing the future as a concept, causing the world to become stuck in a single day. by depriving him of all possibilities, which even affected the hugtto, who had already fought and defeated the one who intended to destroy all possibilities by stopping time), and the fact that all this mechanics of the future and possibilities is contained in the chronosto, and both time travel and travel to worlds without time are part of the transcendent chronology that he embodies, and for him it is all one. and supreme is even higher than this, and for her, the very fact of everything below her is meaningless


that's why life is important for seed growth, because a planet without life is a piece of stone (although the concept of life in precure is very vague, because toys, stones, objects, and even the concept of life itself are primary to light and darkness, meaning that the hypothetical proto jikochu is alive, and the queen of light is alive.

not quite. they found his soul and awakened it, and he let them go. and after that, they restored the earth

usually in precure, the word "world" refers to the setting, including all the events. So, for example, the world of Refi's story is the entire cosmos in her story, the forest of stories, and the evil that seeks to consume them. And the planets are depicted as planets. Supreme erased the entire cosmology of precure and then recreated it as she saw fit.

Almost 5 am now

Three hours ahead of me.