I Was Caught In A Non-Existent Beginning but that World is Prologue

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Prologue is still a part of Epilogue, which is a good argument for it having NEP. Plus, Epilogue manifesting Shiro isn't exactly an anti feat, it's not AC5, Epilogue and Shiro are two different beings. If you're talking about Epilogue's consciousness, then it's still alright imo since NEP page states that a being should lack the aspect or have a non existent one, it's not paradoxical to be exact, so Epilogue having a non existent mind should just be fine.

Where is the bolded part stated on the page?

Shiro is a will which was developed by the Epilogue, The Epilogue can act separate from Shiro, but Shiro is still the/a will of it, and the fact that the Epilogue could have a will ie in the case of deciding to end someone because it wants to if Shiro was ever killed, again proves it has a mind, now this whole thing about having a "nonexistent mind" is a whole other argument that I still don't understand honestly, but if its a thing that's done on the wiki, it's whatever to me.

But anyway only thing proving The Epilogue being NEP, is that The Prologue came from it, there are no nothingness statements about it, and being the end of all stories as already stated by others could/is just an explanation of its R>F. Imo though it's a possibility that it is nonexistent, not sure its a strong one.

 

[Fantric]

Other: These characters lack some other fundamental aspect that would be necessary for a normal being's existence or have a nonexistent one. Examples would include things like lacking a history. They are hence immune to abilities that target that respective aspect. Which aspect should be mentioned on the profile, together with any detail regarding what it makes them immune to.

It is listed on the aspect 5 section, although looking back at it. I'm not exactly sure myself but ehh screw it, at least Kuro got NEP, that's good for now. Whatever left I'll leave it to the future me.

Now time to go get AE for WCs

 

[BoastJr]

Seeing as how Most people have agreed to Kuro having Type 1 Aspect 1,2,3,4 NEP

I think this can be closed !

 

[Fantric]

But anyway only thing proving The Epilogue being NEP, is that The Prologue came from it, there are no nothingness statements about it, and being the end of all stories as already stated by others could/is just an explanation of its R>F. Imo though it's a possibility that it is nonexistent, not sure its a strong one.

Being honest I never really thought of it having NEP to begin with lmao
The whole arg was being the nothingness after the story, as opposed to Prologue but since Prologue was rejected, the entire argument crumbled down to dust so yea.

 

[Noneless21]

The reason why this whole thing works is because it doesn't really involve many semantics and has multiple scans backing up

Unlike high godly regen

 

[BoastJr]

Forget to mention as this thread has been up for a while

DarkDragonMedeus, ActuallySpaceMan42, FinePoint : have agreed to some sort of NEP aspect 1 type 5

Although Not entirely sure on what it would fall under as

 

[Fantric]

I suggest we just ignore it for now, type 5 is possible just not plot. I think history might work if we stretch it a bit but gotta find an argument for that
Too much work, not doing it for now. Gotta focus on wanking new things.

 

[BoastJr]

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Tbf there wasn't any Moderator disagreement with Type 5. Maybe something Plot related would fall under it

 

[Fantric]

Ig? Maybe I'll try wording it a bit better next time.

But hey, that's all well and good but we completely ignored the fact that Kuro got plot abstraction lmao, she might just be one of the strongest 1-Cs here

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Since as far as I can see, NEP and AE were accepted for Kuro, we just need to apply it.

You guys can just let me know when you're ready to do so, I will open Kuro's profile.

 

[Mizuki67]

I do heard from Pegasus that it has solid reasoning so I'll be neutral for now

It'll be so funny that the Epilogue can't be interacted because almost nobody has plot manipulation that works on plot based NEP aspect type 5

Pretty sure Umineko characters have those

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Nep and ae were good for kuro, there was a type 5 agreement but not for plot, so idk what is gonna happen there lol

 

[Legacy30]

If there is no alternative, it defaults to aspect plot because the staffs don't know what else it would fall under

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Eh I don't think any staff agreed with plot aspect, I myself disagreed.

If anything think only 1 staff brought up type 5 and it wasn't for plot, so think its best to drop that idea, and remake the thread at a later point to revisit the topic.

Nobody is gonna to come for a CRT for a LN verse 3 pages deep.

 

[BoastJr]

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I think we should unlock kuro profile to add the stuff in

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True !

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

The profile is now open.

 

[BoastJr]

changes have been applied (with no tanks to bluey)

I will ask a mod to close this