Sarkaz Physiology & Civilight Eterna equipment page

[GrathOfLux]

Yeah, a Lich by the name of Fremont was once swallowed by a void in his last "death". He was able to reform his physical body afterwards, for context this "void" is called Kargereich. It's a void that corrodes all of existence, flesh and blood cannot exist there nor anything else tangible, it has no concept of life or death with the only thing capable of surviving there being information and was stated by Fremont himself that it'd deep fry Leithanian (one of the countries in the game) into a cavity of nothingness. I'll add that along in the justification if that works well enough as proof for you.

That should work.

I mean I still think it's fine enough for passive empathic or fear hax, just that it's potency is nothing to write home about. I mean they are reacting more favorably than normal to Nymph when she does completely ordinary things and the crowd in the fear scan are scared for virtually no reason when she's just talking with a bit of an edge in her voice. I guess the empathic hax can be changed to social influencing? I think it makes little difference, I chose empathic hax because it thematically fits with Djall feasting on the emotions of others, that is their entire lore.

There is probably something to be said about it if the lore of the Djall is about feeding off of people's emotions in a literal sense. I only point out that the scans by themselves are a bit ambiguous.

Seems the video was deleted...I've changed the scan, it should work now.

Thank you.

I can elaborate more on that, the form we see of Civilight Eterna doesn't exist in the conventional sense. It cannot be perceived or interacted with by anyone other than Amiya or those she gives permission to interact with, for that form specifically the most fitting thing is AE since her entire form is just an abstraction of the crown and manifestation of Amiya's emotions itself. Of course, something like incorporeality would fit the bill as well I suppose but I believe AE is more fitting since the crown is composed entirely of fundamental information and as I just stated and showed in the above scan it is a manifestation of Amiya's own emotions that requires Civilight Eterna (the crown) itself to exist which fits with AE more than Incorporeality in my opinion since that is not her true form just a manifestation.

If I understand correctly - your argument here is that this would qualify for AE because it exists purely as a manifestation of Amiya's emotions?

If so, I don't think this is indicated by the scans. Theresa is referred to as a program built into the Civilight Eterna, and the version of Theresa interacted with in the scans is said to be a physical manifestation of that program. It only says that the form changes in accordance with Amiya's emotions, not that the crown itself, Theresa, or the program is Amiya's emotions. I'm not sure what relevancy only being interacted with by Amiya or those she gives permission to has, either - this doesn't say that the Eterna doesn't exist in a conventional sense, it just says that only some people can perceive it.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

There is probably something to be said about it if the lore of the Djall is about feeding off of people's emotions in a literal sense. I only point out that the scans by themselves are a bit ambiguous.

Yeah I mean either solution works honestly I think it's something hardly worth arguing for.

If I understand correctly - your argument here is that this would qualify for AE because it exists purely as a manifestation of Amiya's emotions?

No, the form of Theresa CE takes is both a manifestation of Amiya's emotions as well as a program left behind by Theresa when she wielded the crown. I'm not trying to say it would qualify for AE just because it exists purely as a manifestation of Amiya's emotions.

If so, I don't think this is indicated by the scans. Theresa is referred to as a program built into the Civilight Eterna, and the version of Theresa interacted with in the scans is said to be a physical manifestation of that program. It only says that the form changes in accordance with Amiya's emotions, not that the crown itself, Theresa, or the program is Amiya's emotions.

Yeah that wasn't what I was arguing, it seems I need to clear up a few things as it is a bit confusing so I'll break it down a bit. First, allow me to clarify the actual differences between the 2-3 names being used. Theresa is a physical character that once existed, a mortal. She was once a wielder of the crown just like Amiya, with the crown's official name being Civilight Eterna. However, despite this being the case, to differentiate between the actual crown itself and the manifestation of Theresa/playable Operator known as Civilight Eterna I strictly refer to the crown as just that, while referring to CE only specifically when the crown takes the form of Theresa for clarities sake.

I guess that's still fine though, I now think it'd be better to swap the roles a bit so we can make CE have invisibility instead. While changing the crown itself in it's base key to AE, as its composed entirely of information being one of the oldest forms of originium within the verse and all, and an arts (verse specific energy system). The proof of that is detailed here, there is also this scan I had to have a friend dig for that mentions this in further detail by explaining that memories, emotions and knowledge were what created the crown and that it was capable of changing it's shape on the physical plane as well as this scan which further details that the crown is not some kind of powerful magic but simply originium arts in its most fundamental form. I believe these work better, assuming you're fine with them I'll edit the profile to reflect these changes.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

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[AlipheeseXIV]

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Bro thinks that ping is gonna go through.

 

[GrathOfLux]

I guess that's still fine though, I now think it'd be better to swap the roles a bit so we can make CE have invisibility instead. While changing the crown itself in it's base key to AE, as its composed entirely of information being one of the oldest forms of originium within the verse and all, and an arts (verse specific energy system). The proof of that is detailed here, there is also this scan I had to have a friend dig for that mentions this in further detail by explaining that memories, emotions and knowledge were what created the crown and that it was capable of changing it's shape on the physical plane as well as this scan which further details that the crown is not some kind of powerful magic but simply originium arts in its most fundamental form. I believe these work better, assuming you're fine with them I'll edit the profile to reflect these changes.

I think I see what you're saying. The Civilight Eterna is Originum Arts in its most fundamental form, and Originum is a container for the information that reality is constructed out of. Thus, the Civilight Eterna exists purely in the form of this information, and only creates avatars of itself in the physical plane?

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

I think I see what you're saying. The Civilight Eterna is Originum Arts in its most fundamental form, and Originum is a container for the information that reality is constructed out of. Thus, the Civilight Eterna exists purely in the form of this information, and only creates avatars of itself in the physical plane?

Yes, I was using that as a basis to give it AE1 in it's 2nd key since the first key purely exists as a piece of equipment but I did a poor and somewhat convoluted job of explaining it.

 

[GrathOfLux]

I think the justification in the profile you've proposed is a bit confusing. But if you can outline what you've suggested here with clarity, I wouldn't oppose that being added.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

I think the justification in the profile you've proposed is a bit confusing. But if you can outline what you've suggested here with clarity, I wouldn't oppose that being added.

Done, feel free to give it a look over again.

 

[GrathOfLux]

Looks good.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Two mods approval, finally

We can officially proceed with the new profiles beside the Feranmuts