Tier 3 NNT is real

[Makai641001]

Hey, the last chapters confirmed quite a few things about NNT scaling.

Chaos created the lake and it’s dimension as a mere storage for his power.

Said lake is stated on multiple occasions to be infinite and holding infinite power.

The dimension also have it’s own warped space time (similar to Purgatory) where 116 days are = to over 3 years.

Lancelot drank the entire lake‘s infinite power.

Drinking a bit of said water was amping their physicals greatly, therefore drinking infinite water would make Lancelot’s physicals H3-A.

Chaos Arthur tanked Lance’s attacks on multiple occasions.

The proposition is simple:
-Kid Lance, Meliodas, Chaos Arthur, Ban and every character that would scale somehow to Chaos Arthur would get H3-A.

Prime Chaos would get Low 2-C for creating a separate infinite space time or 2-C due to Cath’s destruction of all forms feat.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

I agree, except for the things related to Cath. Lancelot used his infinite power against Arthur, so they definitely should scale to High 3-A.

Since Lancelot drank the lake, you could add infinite speed here.

 

[Damage3245]

Just because Lancelot holds a seemingly infinite amount of magic power within him doesn't mean that he is outputting that much energy in his individual attacks.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Just because Lancelot holds a seemingly infinite amount of magic power within him doesn't mean that he is outputting that much energy in his individual attacks.

Arthur implies that he can.

Lancelot used his infinite power against Arthur

 

[Makai641001]

Just because Lancelot holds a seemingly infinite amount of magic power within him doesn't mean that he is outputting that much energy in his individual attacks.

The lake amps physicals the more they drank it

 

[Damage3245]

Arthur implies that he can.

Arthur implies that Lancelot is holding himself back there. He's got infinite energy within him but he's not using it all up in one go there; he's using a certain amount of it which Arthur states won't be enough to defeat him, plus it ends up breaking his sword.

I think we should wait for a more direct statement on how much Lancelot can output before handing out High 3-A upgrades to the characters.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

The lake amps physicals the more they drank it

He’s moving an infinite amount of mass. Would that still be High 3-A?

 

[Makai641001]

Arthur implies that Lancelot is holding himself back there. He's got infinite energy within him but he's not using it all up in one go there; he's using a certain amount of it which Arthur states won't be enough to defeat him, plus it ends up breaking his sword.

I think we should wait for a more direct statement on how much Lancelot can output before handing out High 3-A upgrades to the characters.

Stated black on white that the lake amps their physicals we don’t care about output.

Infinite water = infinite physicals

He also drank infinite water in a finite tf which would be inf speed.

Chaos also had to output the lake so he’d scale

 

[Damage3245]

He’s moving an infinite amount of mass. Would that still be High 3-A?

I don't know how literally we should take that. The lake in the real world is substantially smaller than that.

Stated black on white that the lake amps their physicals we don’t care about output.

Infinite water = infinite physicals

Nowhere else in the manga has it been implied that Lancelot is punching with infinite force.

 

[Shigeonnt]

Hey, the last chapters confirmed quite a few things about NNT scaling.

Chaos created the lake and it’s dimension as a mere storage for his power.

Said lake is stated on multiple occasions to be infinite and holding infinite power.

The dimension also have it’s own warped space time (similar to Purgatory) where 116 days are = to over 3 years.

Lancelot drank the entire lake‘s infinite power.

Chaos Arthur tanked Lance’s attacks on multiple occasions.

The proposition is simple:
-Kid Lance, Meliodas, Chaos Arthur, Ban and every character that would scale somehow to Chaos Arthur would get H3-A.

Prime Chaos would get Low 2-C for creating a separate infinite space time or 2-C due to Cath’s destruction of all forms feat.

There’s literally no difference between Chaos Arthur and Primordial Chaos, bro. Stop making these baseless claims. By the way, is the infinite speed CRT for Lancelot still happening?

 

[Makai641001]

I don't know how literally we should take that. The lake in the real world is substantially smaller than that.

Tf is this argument ?

They are inside the dimension not in the real world’s lake it’s stated to be infinite

The lake is magic given form and density and there’s infinite magic…
Infinite water

Nowhere else in the manga has it been implied that Lancelot is punching with infinite force.

Duh we just learned the origin of his power

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Arthur implies that Lancelot is holding himself back there. He's got infinite energy within him but he's not using it all up in one go there; he's using a certain amount of it which Arthur states won't be enough to defeat him, plus it ends up breaking his sword.

He says that because all of Lancelot’s power is still a fraction of Chaos’s power, since it was Chaos who created that infinite lake.

The Lady of the Lake implies that the Brilliant Road uses all of Lancelot’s power, but of course, I’d say that only happens when he’s serious, like when he attacked Arthur and Chaos

 

[karo_senpaii]

Hey, the last chapters confirmed quite a few things about NNT scaling.

Chaos created the lake and it’s dimension as a mere storage for his power.

Said lake is stated on multiple occasions to be infinite and holding infinite power.

The dimension also have it’s own warped space time (similar to Purgatory) where 116 days are = to over 3 years.

Lancelot drank the entire lake‘s infinite power.

Chaos Arthur tanked Lance’s attacks on multiple occasions.

The proposition is simple:
-Kid Lance, Meliodas, Chaos Arthur, Ban and every character that would scale somehow to Chaos Arthur would get H3-A.

Prime Chaos would get Low 2-C for creating a separate infinite space time or 2-C due to Cath’s destruction of all forms feat.

Get the RAWS for the infinite statement coz,
1. Goes on forever just implies it's just large beyond comprehension
2. Accumulated infinite power debunks itself. You can't accumulate infinity, it's the same reason as why infinitely expanding is not infinity.

Also that doesn't prove Lancelot can output that infinite power in one go.

 

[Damage3245]

He says that because all of Lancelot’s power is still a fraction of Chaos’s power, since it was Chaos who created that infinite lake.

The Lady of the Lake implies that the Brilliant Road uses all of Lancelot’s power, but of course, I’d say that only happens when he’s serious, like when he attacked Arthur and Chaos

Lancelot has using Shining Road multiple times without using his full power behind it.

According to the Lady of the Lake the Shining Road attack is only using his full power in that scene because he's so weak at the time.

 

[Makai641001]

Get the RAWS for the infinite statement coz,

Raw states the same we already went through it i’ll let the others send the panels tho I don’t have them anymore

1. Goes on forever just implies it's just large beyond comprehension

It holds infinite magic given form… it’s infinite

2. Accumulated infinite power debunks itself. You can't accumulate infinity, it's the same reason as why infinitely expanding is not infinity.

Once again

Also that doesn't prove Lancelot can output that infinite power in one go.

Since y’all are slow… drinking finite quantities of water was amping all their stats greatly.

Drinking an infinite quantity of said water would give him infinite physicals

 

[Makai641001]

Lancelot has using Shining Road multiple times without using his full power behind it.

According to the Lady of the Lake the Shining Road attack is only using his full power in that scene because he's so weak at the time.

Can you read ???

His physicals already scales.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

 

[Shigeonnt]

Get the RAWS for the infinite statement coz,
1. Goes on forever just implies it's just large beyond comprehension
2. Accumulated infinite power debunks itself. You can't accumulate infinity, it's the same reason as why infinitely expanding is not infinity.

Also that doesn't prove Lancelot can output that infinite power in one go.

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[karo_senpaii]

Raw states the same we already went through it i’ll let the others send the panels tho I don’t have them anymore

It's the translation I'm looking that is giving the issue. In the op there are 2 statements
1. This goes on forever
2. Accumulated infinite power.

First statement doesn't remotely denote true infinity, it's just him seeing the space as vast
Second statement cannot work. Accumulated means it was finite before and over time became infinite. That is not possible and can't be true infinity same way a universe expanding infinitely isn't

It holds infinite magic given form… it’s infinite

Once again

Since y’all are slow… drinking finite quantities of water was amping all their stats greatly.

Drinking an infinite quantity of said water would give him infinite physical

Insulting people is a great way to start your CRT sure.

Drinking infinite quantity doesn't mean he can amp his stats to that level. You have to prove he can output an infinite amount of that infinite energy

 

[Da3ggman]

Since y’all are slow… drinking finite quantities of water was amping all their stats greatly.

Dude, chill out; insulting people ain't getting you anywhere.

 

[Makai641001]

It's the translation I'm looking that is giving the issue. In the op there are 2 statements
1. This goes on forever
2. Accumulated infinite power.

First statement doesn't remotely denote true infinity, it's just him seeing the space as vast
Second statement cannot work. Accumulated means it was finite before and over time became infinite. That is not possible and can't be true infinity same way a universe expanding infinitely isn't


Insulting people is a great way to start your CRT sure.

Drinking infinite quantity doesn't mean he can amp his stats to that level. You have to prove he can output an infinite amount of that infinite energy

I’m gonna do it differently since y’all want to cherry pick that bad.

Chaos had to output said inf energy Lance scales the gods scale Meliodas scale anyone close scales.

 

[Makai641001]

Dude, chill out; insulting people ain't getting you anywhere.

I’m sorry but once again it’s the exact same thing that happens EVERYTIME we have litteral statements but they keep getting ignored.

My bad though

 

[karo_senpaii]

I’m gonna do it differently since y’all want to cherry pick that bad.

Chaos had to output said inf energy Lance scales the gods scale Meliodas scale anyone close scales.

No one is cherry picking. I'm attacking the statement itself, I like as you just ignored that lol.

Expecting an upgrade as huge as tier 3 not to receive such level of scrutiny is weird

 

[Damage3245]

Taking the statements at face value when it contradicts Lancelot's actual feats is a problem.

Lancelot isn't punching or striking his opponents with infinite physical strength. He's not attacking at infinite speeds.

 

[Makai641001]

No one is cherry picking. I'm attacking the statement itself, I like as you just ignored that lol

They’ve sent the raw just look at it it’s infinite as stated.

You are right to look at the raw it’s better.

 

[Makai641001]

Taking the statements at face value when it contradicts Lancelot's actual feats is a problem.

Lancelot isn't punching or striking his opponents with infinite physical strength. He's not attacking at infinite speeds.

So we ignore statements plain and simple okay just close this

 

[Jey-kun52]

2. Accumulated infinite power.
Second statement cannot work. Accumulated means it was finite before and over time became infinite. That is not possible and can't be true infinity same way a universe expanding infinitely isn't

Do you realize how illogical your conclusion is? Then we should remove the term "infinite universe" OMG

 

[karo_senpaii]

They’ve sent the raw just look at it it’s infinite as stated.

You are right to look at the raw it’s better.

Ah my bad I meant "get the RAWS translated by a wiki translator" . I don't speak Japanese and machine translation would just be wrong

 

[karo_senpaii]

Do you realize how illogical your conclusion is? Then we should remove the term "infinite universe" OMG

You do realise we don't assume universes are infinite right? Like you realise we separate a true infinite universe and an infinitely expanding universe ?

 

[Shigeonnt]

Taking the statements at face value when it contradicts Lancelot's actual feats is a problem.

Lancelot isn't punching or striking his opponents with infinite physical strength. He's not attacking at infinite speeds.

It’s ’cause he’s not channeling his magic power into his body most of the time. Read chapter 113 of 4KoA, when Percival’s magic flows into his body, all his stats get boosted. That’s a universal thing in Nanatsu

 

[Makai641001]

Ah my bad I meant "get the RAWS translated by a wiki translator" . I don't speak Japanese and machine translation would just be wrong

I asked Damage to just close this thread I won’t be entertaining this anymore

 

[Damage3245]

Okay, well the OP has asked twice for the thread to be closed so I'll do that.